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Sarcasm bro....I know.
Like yeah. That was one of the main reasons bud. It's not like it was a trade secret.
Sarcasm bro....I know.
And his son, IIRC, actually lived in SA himself before LMA got here.
The kid knew what was up.
Lol! Damn right! This is the New Millennium Style of recruiting.
Use their children...
In the end the real obstacle is probably OKC finding a better haul than: Danny + draft pick in the 25-30 range + lets say Murray. That trade is worth it to the Spurs but for OKC, they might get a better haul from someone somewhere.
If Westbrook leaves we have been made worse, but as you pointed out we'd have cap. Draft pick and OKC choice of a young prospect, are gambles in themselves, Danny is the hard to replace guy. But I can see how that trade if available makes a lot of sense.
That trade is kind of what I think it might come down to. Presti will also have to prime their fans to accept that haul, which won't be easy.
Pops is not proactive in his trades that I have seen of late. Pops always wants to hold on to his guys until the last moment.Man we have some really out this world GM's in here. Some Billy Kings and whoever's in charge of Sacramento's moves from time to time in here. Some people just don't understand the spurs way even after following them for years...
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For example, they leveraged Hill and he was hard to part with, but they were reaching the point of desperation.
They gave away Jefferson for JAX but that was a Jefferson dump and that pick we gave would have brought talent. The 2012 draft had NBA roleplayers go very late.
They held on to CoJo when maybe trading him was a good idea bc they had in their plans the move for Aldridge and would have known that going after a high paid FA the same season Kawhi was due a huge raise (as was Cojo due for his in proportion) would have made him impossible to retain.
They dumped Diaw and Tiago for doritos and a nespresso machine. Though considering Tiago's health the doritos were at least tasty.
They haven't really been proactive. Being proactive would have been doing a sign and trade to send Manu to Philly for some of their prospect bigs that they are looking to dump.
Two ways of seeing it: they are high in the youngsters they have and want Manu here to mentor them or the attachment to Manu is irrational at this point. I prefer to think option 1.
Spurs couldn't trade Lamarsha. They went all out to get her, sold her on being the man (I would assume). Spurs first big free agent then immediately traded? I think it looks too bad.
Think it's a combination of both. Spurs loyalty and determination to do things the right way. Without Duncan, its time to see if the spurs Way actually works in this business. I hate to be skeptical but am a little bit. Kind of wondering if the spurs loyalty will be/can be the downfall of them. Case in point being Parker's contract to some degree, not making enough moves to keep LMA and then eventually losing kawhi. Nightmare scenario indeed.Pops is not proactive in his trades that I have seen of late. Pops always wants to hold on to his guys until the last moment.
For example, they leveraged Hill and he was hard to part with, but they were reaching the point of desperation.
They gave away Jefferson for JAX but that was a Jefferson dump and that pick we gave would have brought talent. The 2012 draft had NBA roleplayers go very late.
They held on to CoJo when maybe trading him was a good idea bc they had in their plans the move for Aldridge and would have known that going after a high paid FA the same season Kawhi was due a huge raise (as was Cojo due for his in proportion) would have made him impossible to retain.
They dumped Diaw and Tiago for doritos and a nespresso machine. Though considering Tiago's health the doritos were at least tasty.
They haven't really been proactive. Being proactive would have been doing a sign and trade to send Manu to Philly for some of their prospect bigs that they are looking to dump.
Two ways of seeing it: they are high in the youngsters they have and want Manu here to mentor them or the attachment to Manu is irrational at this point. I prefer to think option 1.
Another advantage to getting Westbrook now: his cap hold of $20.3M (120% of this year's $17.7M) is far less than what he'll sign for.
That's assuming the cap hold rules survive next summer's CBA negotiations and possible lockout.
Last edited by LakerHater; 07-22-2016 at 07:10 PM.
I agree with your concerns.
Uncharted territory for them bc as RC said: "Without Tim we are on our own" They have to maximixe the years they have Aldridge in his prime. Kawhi can pull a Durant if we don't do anything the next three seasons. In a way it makes me very careful of gambles that can leave us worse off.
My conservative approach is that we have an almost bare cupboard of young prospects. If we give those guys away and come up empty could be .. a disaster, plus giving away the pick. Or it could be a homerun if Russy stays and we push GSW to the edge and have a nascent dinasty that would convince Russy. I can see value in either approach.
Statements from Pops and RC has led me to believe like you that they will live and die with Tony and Manu and then dump the hot mess on Ime or Becky when they are gone.I am a bit sarcastic here if you follow me.
They moved Splitter to acquire Aldridge, and Diaw for Gasol. If there's a chance to improve the team, PATFO would do it.Pops is not proactive in his trades that I have seen of late. Pops always wants to hold on to his guys until the last moment.
For example, they leveraged Hill and he was hard to part with, but they were reaching the point of desperation.
They gave away Jefferson for JAX but that was a Jefferson dump and that pick we gave would have brought talent. The 2012 draft had NBA roleplayers go very late.
They held on to CoJo when maybe trading him was a good idea bc they had in their plans the move for Aldridge and would have known that going after a high paid FA the same season Kawhi was due a huge raise (as was Cojo due for his in proportion) would have made him impossible to retain.
They dumped Diaw and Tiago for doritos and a nespresso machine. Though considering Tiago's health the doritos were at least tasty.
They haven't really been proactive. Being proactive would have been doing a sign and trade to send Manu to Philly for some of their prospect bigs that they are looking to dump.
Two ways of seeing it: they are high in the youngsters they have and want Manu here to mentor them or the attachment to Manu is irrational at this point. I prefer to think option 1.
Of course, Pop values continuity, but only to a certain extent. That is why they brought Manu back. But this is what Pop thinks of Parker:
Parker may not be as indispensable as many people think.
Not through trades for the most part. The signings were in FA, and he reluctantly let go of those guys. The point is that he's not very proactive, which a move to trade for Russ would be at this point.
By history they are likely to hold on to their guys, see what they have, see their youngsters in real games now, and make a move in FA for Russ then, instead of giving up on guys they are still high on, picks and Danny.
Yeah, the conservative path is safer and more our style. You risk losing everything if you strike out on Russell. I think R.C. And Pop know that. Dejounte is our defacto "new hope".(Star Wars reference) If you take a high upside pick at guard your saying something and that might be,"if we strike out on a star guard we're gonna develop one." I'm so use to the Spurs cultivating new stars that at first I didn't want Russell and I think I'm going back to that mindset. Signing Aldridge turned some things around but maybe we shouldn't view it as a beginning of a trend. Cause now it's like we became vain in a sense and seen or own beauty. Now we know we can get better. I guess in a morale sense I hope we stick to our roots and grow and develop and "build". There's something innocent in doing this. I mean we've went after stars when we were forming and didn't land one till this last year. It's like putting a parking lot on paradise, though in a sense that we are starting to land these free agents and the pure style that we had is being contaminated by newcomers. If we were to get Westbrook...
Last edited by raybies; 07-22-2016 at 07:37 PM.
Watching Jason Williams in a game on espn with a team he plays with at 40, he looks better than Parker did last season
Only if you are assuming that LMA isn't going to be on a decline from here on until his contract runs out.They aren't going to stop the Duds w/ a Pau/LMA frontline & Porker is going to be a liability against all 5 starters. Sabonis is more mobile than Kanter & can shoot/rebound while also being able to punish Draymond in the post. WestBrick would make Curry work & can actually guard Draymond/Iggy/Livingston.
Pop can have Porker play alongside WestBrick against the Duds bench unit where he can hide on Clark or even Iggy. During crunch time, let Kawhi run PnPs w/ Pau.
PATFO can probably flip Patty/Simmons for another rotation player like McLemore since the Kings have too many wings & are desperate for a PG.
Last edited by Kawhitstorm; 07-22-2016 at 08:32 PM.
Is the idea to hide the bald spot among the rest of the baldness? Or did he lose a bet?
Such a big variable is the bench. With Gasol being 36 I can't see him playing more than 30 minutes a game. With Manu's age and Jean-Charles inexperience competing at a high level Anderson will definitely have a big workload of 20+ minutes a game. I would anticipate Anderson will get most of his minutes at the 4. I also anticipate Bertans playing a very sizable role as well, maybe 15+ minutes a game and Dedmon at about 17+ minutes a game. Based on the current structure of the team I could see them winning 53 games this season.
he has cancer you g ing insenstive prick
Yeah... I think you're not far off, buddy. Good show.
Mike Bibby let it go lolWatching Jason Williams in a game on espn with a team he plays with at 40, he looks better than Parker did last season
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