Celtics: 21 reasons why Kevin McHale was better than Tim Duncan

[AlexJones]

http://www.celticsblog.com/2016/7/23...han-tim-duncan

Wonder how lefty will react to this, tbh. Gotta choose between TD or white american players from the 80's

[midnightpulp]

McHale was legit, and decimated Hakeem in the '86 Finals, but no, not comparable to Duncan. The writer can talk about Kevin's PPG all he wants, but 80's basketball didn't employ many double teams. Furthermore, 80's ball was played at a faster pace.

If McHale played today, he'd be maybe a half-tier above a prime Pau Gasol. Top 20-30 player in the league.

Duncan also easily bests McHale in PP100 stats, the only stat that should be used when comparing players of different eras.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...duncati01.html

http://www.basketball-reference.com/...mchalke01.html

And McHale isn't in the same universe per Advanced metrics.

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This is almost as ridiculous a claim as saying prince fielder is faster than C. Ronaldo, tbh...

[midnightpulp]

This is almost as ridiculous a claim as saying prince fielder is faster than C. Ronaldo, tbh...

6.8 60 yard vs. 4.7 40

Ronaldo is a athlete, slower than American fatties.

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McHale always took it personal, too personal and was easily baited into the .

Duncan gave very little away. Just that time he trolled Howard & that time he slammed the floor during the Spur's 1st 5th.

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This is almost as ridiculous a claim as saying prince fielder is faster than C. Ronaldo, tbh...

[midnightpulp]

6.8 ve 3.61

Why is Ronaldo so slow, brother?

[Splits]

McHale always took it personal, too personal and was easily baited into the .

Duncan gave very little away. Just that time he trolled Howard & that time he slammed the floor during the Spur's 1st 5th.

[Splits]

6.8 ve 3.61

Why is Ronaldo so slow, brother?

Because you just make up and post "evidence" from blogs nobody has ever heard of? Ronaldo has been clocked at 20.9mph. Mike Trout 20.8mph. Dee Gordon 21.1. Lee Hamilton 21.2.

Yawn.

[midnightpulp]

Because you just make up and post "evidence" from blogs nobody has ever heard of? Ronaldo has been clocked at 20.9mph. Mike Trout 20.8mph. Dee Gordon 21.1. Lee Hamilton 21.2.

Yawn.

Quit making up, bro.

http://m.mlb.com/video/topic/7395516...stealing-speed

Trout's top speed ever recorded is 21.15mph.

But see, I won't take you task for your oversight because you got Trout's top speed from a quick google search, much like I got my 6'1", 190lb figure.

I also don't get why you don't trust a running blog to give a ball park estimate of Ronaldo's 40 yard dash time (split acceleration isn't some voodoo science)? If you don't like the figure, do your own calculations. However, given Ronaldo's top sprint mark of 20.9mph, I would say a 4.64-4.7 40 time is a fair estimate.

I find 20.9 mph unimpressive because I watch feats like this every night in baseball:

http://m.mlb.com/video/topic/7395516...leg-out-triple

22.7mph while making a sweep turn

How does it feel that a "fatball" player is faster than every floptrot player in existence (Valencia and his "record" 21.8mph sprint speed )?

[Clipper Nation]

Yesterday's NBA

[Splits]

Splitting hairs

and "feats"

How about these "feats" (or are they feasts)?

drinking beer during games
eating fried chicken and biscuits during games
going to the clubhouse to fill your gatorade cup with beer, then returning to the dugout
any "sport" which you can play drunk
all-stars chimney smoking during games
6'1" 223lb average "athlete" because they drink and eat fried foods during games
anyone under the age of 60 that takes this "sport" seriously

[midnightpulp]

Because you just make up and post "evidence" from blogs nobody has ever heard of? Ronaldo has been clocked at 20.9mph. Mike Trout 20.8mph. Dee Gordon 21.1. Billy Hamilton 21.2.

Yawn.

Oh, and this more "making up."

Billy Hamilton's top speed is 23.3mph overall

http://m.mlb.com/video/topic/7395516...lly%2Bhamilton

Again, Valencia and his 21.8mph

He even had more field to use:

[midnightpulp]

Splitting hairs

and "feats"

How about these "feats" (or are they feasts)?

drinking beer during games
eating fried chicken and biscuits during games
going to the clubhouse to fill your gatorade cup with beer, then returning to the dugout
any "sport" which you can play drunk
all-stars chimney smoking during games
6'1" 223lb average "athlete" because they drink and eat fried foods during games
anyone under the age of 60 that takes this "sport" seriously

And they're still faster and more athletic than floptrot players

Is that what you "got" living over in Europe about the game, how those "athletes" actually are?

[midnightpulp]

Splits, how does it FEEL that a 6'5" 250lb beast of pure American muscle is faster than your hero Cristiano Ronaldo?

http://m.mlb.com/video/topic/7395516...o-diving-grabs

Over 21mph.

20.9 mph top speed at 6'1" 180lb

[Splits]

I do like how you've cherry picked sprint times as a measure of athleticism when sprinting has completely different purposes for each game. If your objective is to run 100 yards (home to 3rd) as fast as you can in order to dive into the dirt, of course your top speed is going to be your max. Especially after standing around all day doing nothing but scratching your balls, spitting and chewing tobacco. If you've been running around a pitch for an hour, and your objective is to chase down a ball at max speed for 20-40 yards, then have to stop/slow, collect said ball, and then do something skillful, such as pass or score as opposed to just diving into the dirt, you're obviously not going to hit your max speed potential.

But keep on lying and making fallacious comparisons.

[midnightpulp]

I do like how you've cherry picked sprint times as a measure of athleticism when sprinting has completely different purposes for each game. If your objective is to run 100 yards (home to 3rd) as fast as you can in order to dive into the dirt, of course your top speed is going to be your max. Especially after standing around all day doing nothing but scratching your balls, spitting and chewing tobacco. If you've been running around a pitch for an hour, and your objective is to chase down a ball at max speed for 20-40 yards, then have to stop/slow, collect said ball, and then do something skillful, such as pass or score as opposed to just diving into the dirt, you're obviously not going to hit your max speed potential.

But keep on lying and making fallacious comparisons.

this spin

You should know watching that gay in sport that players are often sprinting in STRAIGHT lines full bore while doing nothing skillful, just like a baseball player sprints for a base. Furthermore, many outfielders reach top speeds of over 20 mph while having to track a small object flying 10 stories or more in the air from distances of over 300 feet. Yeah, that's pretty skillful.

What "fallacious comparisons?" You and the soccer crew unequivocally claim that baseball is an unathletic sport filled with 90% fatties. I come in and show you numerous examples (I can show hundreds) of baseball players outperforming floptrot players in key athletic traits like sprinting, vertical leap, etc, and then the back-tracking begins.

Being a former baseball fan, you should know it's not an unathletic sport filled with fatties (imagine Rickey Henderson vs. naldo in a decathlon It would be a bloodbath), but I get you're in your Europhilia phase (isn't that usually a college aged thing) that doesn't allow you to praise anything American, aside from Tim Duncan I guess, who is actually a pretty terrible athlete

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sport

Thank you.

Now go waste the next 4 hours watching a bunch of guys drink beer, eat fried chicken, smoke, and play a game which does not classify as a sport.

Darts and Bowling are more interesting and take less time to complete.

[midnightpulp]

Thank you.

Now go waste the next 4 hours watching a bunch of guys drink beer, eat fried chicken, smoke, and play a game which does not classify as a sport.

And beat the out of floptrot players in speed, strength, leaping ability.

"Stamina."

Even 102 year old run 10ks in 90 minutes

I'll take the one word reply as your concession.

I'll leave you with one of your floptrot players trying to play the great American sport of baseball:



And here's a baseball player easily doing some soccer tricks ing around on instagram:



And det 66" box jump.

Got any footage of naldo doing that?

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the spin

[chunticakes]

I love how every thread nowadays turns into fatb ll vs p verty ball.

[DMC]

I don't even know who these ers are.

[chunticakes]

I don't even know who these ers are.

Yeah no dude.

And to make matters worse these full grown men fervently defend them.

[UZER]

I love how every thread nowadays turns into fatb ll vs p verty ball.

Today's NBA forum

[BD24]

Although baseball is boring as ing to say these guys aren't phenomenal athletes is ridiculous. There probably isn't a single guy on this forum who can hit a 94 mph fastball. Not to mention baseball has fantastic athletes like Billy Hamilton, Griffey Jr, and Ricky Henderson.