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Nope.
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Can't think of any other sport that just inovles being fat and having strong arms.
Why do they even need coaches?
Nope.
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Does that mean I can be a soccer star by having decent acting skills and an ability to kick a ball?
There's tons of strategy and coaching
pinch-running for the fat guys
I bet you could not touch the ball with a bat in 1000 tries off a major league pitcher, , you couldn't touch the ball I threw. Let alone make meaningful contact. You are trying to troll and I know that, but I just want you to know that your troll attempt only highlights how gd stupid you are. Please perform seppuku.
Baseball has more strategy than soccer...That's for damn sure.
Clipper Nation I don't think OP has ever picked up a bat.
Yeah, occasionally a bench coach dies because a line drive cracks their skull. So, a helmet is mandated.There's tons of strategy and coaching
No active players smoke anymore.
Coaches tell players to stop or go because humans haven't developed eyes in the back of their heads. Decisions have to be made in a split second.
The ability to hit a major league fastball was rated as the hardest thing to do in all of professional sports.
I bet you could not score 1-1 in 1000 tries against any professional basketball player
I bet you could not stop a penalty kick in 1000 tries against any professional football player
I bet you could not catch an in-game slant in 1000 tries thrown by any professional quarterback
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- 8/14/2008 account for speed reduction from mound to plate
Hitters have roughly 0.40 seconds reaction time (typically) to:
- determine the type of pitch
- determine if it's a strike or a ball
- determine the speed of the pitched ball
- finish the stride and get their foot down
- get the bat to the ball
Nothing tops that
Link to any base coach that has died? Why doesn't the pitcher wear one, they get hit more often than base coaches?
So I guess basketball should allow coaches under the rim so they can instruct players what's behind them
I'll grant you this at the pro level. Though at 12 years old I was hitting out of the 80mph cages.
I could stop a penalty kick in 1000 tries, tbh.
Even if I guess wrong all 1,000 times....there is still a good chance he'll miss one on his own
Missi is an outlier tho... he missis a lot of them, tbhI could stop a penalty kick in 1000 tries, tbh.
Even if I guess wrong all 1,000 times....there is still a good chance he'll miss one on his own
Missi is an outlier tho... he missis a lot of them, tbh
There's tons of strategy and coaching
I agree, it takes a lot of creativity to keep themselves entertained for 162 games when they are starting idle for 3.5 hours.
Yeah, so difficult an 11yr old can do it.
There's tons of strategy and coaching
This could actually be an interesting thread that spurs discussion about the strategic and tactical differences between each sport.
To start off, I know far more than the soccer crew about basketball, football, and baseball collectively, most of whom are foreigners and came into basketball probably during the Jordan or when a Euro from their country was drafted to an NBA team. I played all 3 sports at the high school level, and am obviously a sports nerd about this . I won't attempt to dissect soccer, because I don't talk out of my ass about things I don't really know about unlike the soccer crew who thinks they can actually analyze baseball when they never even threw a ball.
First, let's start off by defining the differences between tactics and strategy:
Strategy: A long term plan designed to achieve an overall goal.
What falls under strategy for sports is roster building, gameplanning in advance for specific teams, gameplanning for the season.
Tactics: Small actions performed as a part of the strategic whole.
Ex. Spurs want to employ a low-post strategy against a team, the "tactic" in to feed the ball to Duncan in the post.
That said, here's how I rate them (warning, going to be a long, nerdy write).
Strategy:
1. American Football
600 page playbooks that have to be known inside and out by personnel. Roster building is a challenge since you have to build 4 effective individual units (Offensive, Defense, Special Teams Offense, Special Teams Defense) that comprise 55 players. And given the high injury rate in the game, you best have a serviceable backup at every position. NFL coaches and players will spend anywhere from 30 to 80 hours (in the case of coaches) per week in the film room and then try to figure out what the opposing coach and team might be studying about them and then develop a comprehensive gameplan. The "chess match" begins before teams even take the field.
2. Baseball
Arguably the most complex roster building challenge of any major sport. The draft is pretty much meaningless as a way to acquire top tier talent. You can't just tank for Lebron or Peyton, sign him, and enjoy a decade of success. After you draft a player, you need a legion of scouts and coaches throughout the 4 minor league levels before the MLB to develop talent into legitimate prospects. You have to balance your roster with left and right handed batting and left and right handed pitching (no other sport requires a balance of this kind). And just like the NFL, the injury rate, especially for pitchers, is sky high, so you best have backups and a line of prospects to fill those slots if a player gets injured or slumps. And since every ball park is unique, you have to build your team in a way that it can best excel at home. The Kansas City Royals pulled this off brilliantly.
Gameday and season long strategy requires pitchers and batters to constantly study each other, requiring a great deal of film study. Batters will sometimes go back years to recall what a particular pitcher threw them during an 1-1 count in the 4th inning:
(No, soccer crew, it isn't one guy throwing hard and another guy swinging hard).Cabrera, who can remember pitch patterns from at-bats a half-decade ago, says he studies video only to understand certain tendencies—what pitchers throw when they get two strikes on a hitter, what their favorite first pitch is, what they throw with a man on first, or when they are ahead in the count.
That allows him to recognize a pitch as soon as it leaves a pitcher's hand. McClendon said
And pitchers are doing the same study of hitters and tailoring their strategy based on that information. A pitcher/batter confrontation is very much a like a mini-chess match. Sure, like in all sports, you can win matchups through athleticism, but there's a load of study that goes into this.
And all this is backed by the most advanced statistical analyses in modern sports that inform when to shift, where to shift, when to hit-and-run, when to intentional walk, when to waste a pitch, etc, etc.
3. Basketball
I love basketball, but roster building is simplistic video game . Sign elite star=make playoffs. That's basically the entire formula if you want to build a playoff team. Sure, roster building becomes more complex if you want to build a le contending team, but the essential NBA formula remains the same: Teams with the best player in the league have an enviable foundation to work with that gives them a great chance of building a contender. Meanwhile, the best player in baseball is on the worst team in the league. And in the NFL, a QB can't play both sides of the ball. It logically makes sense. There's only 5 guys on the court for your team at any given time, so the game will naturally be controlled by great individual players. Yeah, we get some additional "complexity" with having to build a great bench or fill out the core with compatible role players, but it's a much easier task than what you have to do in the other two sports. Advanced basketball stats, as much as we love them here, are in the stone age compared to the Library of Congress level depth of stats that exist in baseball. NFL is admittedly behind the curve in this regard, though.
Gameplanning. Basketball has a very overrated "gameplanning" dynamic. Sure, there's a lot of plays you can run, but basketball is a sport where skill, execution and athleticism often win out over strategy. We saw the Spurs win 4 les with a very predictable offensive scheme: 4 down. The other team knew it was coming every time down and they couldn't stop it, because Duncan was just that good. 3 peat Lakers won on the back of forcefeeding Shaq and using Kobe as buffer player to protect Shaq from doubles. The so-called "complex" Triangle wasn't even used all that much on those teams, especially with Kobe's desire to forego the Triangle and free-lance. Every team knew it was coming, and they couldn't stop it. Golden State basically uses the pick-and-roll and not much else. Teams know it's coming, but they can't stop it. And if teams try to congest the pick-and-roll by collapsing or over playing passing lanes, GS has shooters as the "buffer" option.
Even Pop admitted how overrated strategy is. "I don't even watch film of other teams. We know what they're going to do. They know what we're going to do. I'm worried about doing what we do the best (i.e. execution)."
5 and 5 basketball has a very binary strategic dynamic. Take away the lane or take away the jumpshot? And teams have to figure out how to best balance one and the other. Again, the fact basketball is only 5 on 5 can give it only so much strategic "depth." It's a sport where players impose their will through skill and athleticism.
Have to go now, feel free to comment, and when I get back, I'll talk about the tactics of each sport.
Last edited by midnightpulp; 07-25-2016 at 07:42 PM.
There's tons of strategy and coaching
This again? Guys, what the ? I know it's the offseason, but the NBA forum has become the " on other sports" forum apparently...
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