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Ah..I wouldnt be able to shutput or throw a javelin..
Does that make those sports any more complex? Nope.
Try again bro...
The dynamics change for EVERY pitch. And there's 300 pitches total per game in baseball.
In floptrot, we're lucky if we see 2 shots on goal per team or 5 drives into shooting range. Yeah, so "tactically" demanding.
"The super deep "tactic" we're going to use to stop this player when he closes in is, to, um, defend him by congesting shooting lanes and crowd the dribbler, hopefully we'll force a dispossesion or force a rushed shot into a defender!"
Nothing deep about soccer. It's in' basketball played with the feet on a 100 yard field with 11 men per side.
And just stop. You don't know anything about baseball.
Ah..I wouldnt be able to shutput or throw a javelin..
Does that make those sports any more complex? Nope.
Try again bro...
Dynamics change every pitch? As if that doesnt apply to every kickThe dynamics change for EVERY pitch. And there's 300 pitches total per game in baseball.
In floptrot, we're lucky if we see 2 shots on goal per team or 5 drives into shooting range. Yeah, so "tactically" demanding.
"The super deep "tactic" we're going to use to stop this player when he closes in is, to, um, defend him by congesting shooting lanes and crowd the dribbler, hopefully we'll force a dispossesion or force a rushed shot into a defender!"
Nothing deep about soccer. It's in' basketball played with the feet on a 100 yard field with 11 men per side.
And just stop. You don't know anything about baseball.
Its pretty clear, there isnt a whole lot going on in the game of baseball if the lifeblood of its game can be comparable to single soccer kick.
EDIT- I gotta l2read, tbh.
How do you define "complexity?"
This, again? My thoughts exactly.
The great irony here is that the OP's style of repe ively posting the same opinions over and over in new threads out-baseballs baseball.
Sure they doDynamics change every pitch? As if that doesnt apply to every kick
Its pretty clear, there isnt a whole lot going on in the game of baseball if the lifeblood of its game can be comparable to single soccer kick.
Look at all those on the fly adjustments after each "kick."
Oh, a player kicks the ball out of bounds?
Wow! What a dynamically influential event beyond all comprehension!
You really don't understand my point. Each pitch can dictate a completely different approach for the next pitch. A 0-1 vs. 1-0 count are totally different situations.
In soccer, a team isn't going to completely rework their tactical plan because a ball is passed from one guy to another. Chelsea remains committed to their parking the bus strategy no matter (you'll say otherwise, but I have google, and can post Chelsea's stats in this regard).
And if you want to use "the ball in play forces a dynamic change no matter what" idea then I guess basketball is the deepest sport ever, since a basketball game has more passes per game than a soccer game.
But yea, so much depth. Even Mouriho or whatever praises other teams for parking the bus (a piss easy and shallow tactic proven to be high effective):
http://www.espnfc.us/chelsea/story/2...he-bus-drivers
And work it does. It's why 50% of soccer games end 1-0
"Deep."
There's tons of strategy and coaching
Soccer's most effective tactic:
Basically a prevent football defense or a pack-the-paint NBA-style zone defense that congests passing, driving, and in soccer's case, shooting lanes, which pushes the attacking team out wide and forces more low percentage crosses that can be intercepted for a counterattack up the middle.
I'm on record as saying basketball is the shallowest sport tactically, but I really think soccer takes the prize. Basketball has more counters at its disposal for cheap tactical offensive schemes like zones and traps, mainly the fact you can shoot from outside the zone and score at a high percentage, forcing the defending team into a more honest scheme.
"Y-Y-You don't know what you're talking about! Parking the bus rarely works!"
So if cheap defensive tactics aren't highly effective, why do 50% of the games end in 1-0?
LOL, ALL of those can be done, especially the penalty kick one. Half the battle is guessing which direction the ball is going to and the other half is guessing how high the ball is going. The ball won't be going 75 MPH, so it's not as if you'll break your hand trying to stop the ball. You'll break a finger if you're very unlucky.
An average guy beat LeBron in a game of 1-on-1, so spare me, even some of us message boarders can beat NBA players 1-on-1. Maybe not for an entire game or series but we could score, especially if they gamble and get beat to the hole.
An in-game slant would be the hardest by far but not impossible. I'd be more concerned with getting my clock cleaned after making the catch and may drop it in anticipation.
There's tons of strategy and coaching
That might be true, but Splits said any pro basketball player, and I know for a fact I'll score at least 1 point in a 1000 tries against the 5'8" Isaiah Thomas.
I could probably beat Marcelo Huertas off the dribble as well
Meanwhile, no one here is touching any major league pitcher beyond foul tips unless you played baseball at least a college level or were perhaps a hot shot HS school player.
And no one here would be able to beat a dart 501 player in darts.That might be true, but Splits said any pro basketball player, and I know for a fact I'll score at least 1 point in a 1000 tries against the 5'8" Isaiah Thomas.
I could probably beat Marcelo Huertas off the dribble as well
Meanwhile, no one here is touching any major league pitcher beyond foul tips unless you played baseball at least a college level or were perhaps a hot shot HS school player.
Whats your point?
Come to think of it, baseball=Darts.
The difference is really negligible. Your starting point has to to be the same in both cases - if you play basketball as a hobby/recreationally, we must assume you've done the same for baseball.That might be true, but Splits said any pro basketball player, and I know for a fact I'll score at least 1 point in a 1000 tries against the 5'8" Isaiah Thomas.
I could probably beat Marcelo Huertas off the dribble as well
Meanwhile, no one here is touching any major league pitcher beyond foul tips unless you played baseball at least a college level or were perhaps a hot shot HS school player.
If you haven't played basketball at any level, you're not going to score on Isiah Thomas. So I can only assume in the example for baseball, it's someone who's at least hit up batting cages regularly. In that case...you're probably getting a hit off an MLB pitcher in 1000 pitches, serendipitously or not.
That would make sense if you could find me videos of dart players running over 23 mph, which exceeds any speed a floptrot player has run in history.
Quit trying to spin it that baseball is an unathletic game. I'll throw your soccer playing ass out on the field, and your "stamina," which seems to be the only athletic trait you value won't help you do like this:
"They're just jumping and throwing!"
Pillar's feat is WAY harder to pull off than an in game dunk in the NBA. He has to track a small ball 100 feet high while sprinting, judge the probable landing trajectory, and time his (35-40") jump perfectly to rob that homerun. Pillar, a great leaper, would have a better chance of doing a NBA dunk than Carmelo would have of robbing that home run.
And the the 3rd base throw is just sick. Reminder that is from a distance of about 140 feet away, 1.5 times the length of an NBA court, and he was off balance while making it.
Possibly, but you would have to hit up the cages daily and hit up cages that feature 90-100mph speeds (not all do). Cages also don't throw you 4-seamers, 2-seamers, sinkers, change ups, sliders, cutters, etc.
And are we talking a "hit," as in beating the defense or just making fair territory contact?
I remember a few years back he got beat by some cat from Cleveland, though I can't find the source. Anyways, I could score on LeBron (I'm extremely quick and know how to angle and fake) but I'd stand no chance in in actually beating him in a game. I'd say on my best day, LeBron beats me 15-4 in a game to 15. But if I get the first possesion, I could certainly get out to a lead, though it'd end as soon as he caught his first wind and made adjustments to my style, let alone how he'd overpower me.
Oh its much different getting a hit (as in a ground ball that could at least challenge for a base hit) off a MLB pitcher vs batting cage. But I'd say the same as playing basketball at the Y vs facing Isiah Thomas one on one if he's locked in to guard you. I mean, I'm pretty sure if you give me 1000 swings against R.A ey, I'm gonna hit one of his inevitable fat pitches he will throw (that I've witnessed too many times this year)
The difference is just negligible to me and like I said before I follow both sports. The threads are good entertainment though tbh.
Lebron would snatch the soul outta your body on the first possession, you are living in a fantasy world. You might actually die on the court...15-4?
There was no average Joe beating LeBron 1 on 1, thats just ficiton. There was the video of Jordan Crawford (who played in NBA) 'dunking on' LeBron in a scrimmage team game.
Oh its much different getting a hit (as in a ground ball that could at least challenge for a base hit) off a MLB pitcher vs batting cage. But I'd say the same as playing basketball at the Y vs facing Isiah Thomas one on one if he's locked in to guard you. I mean, I'm pretty sure if you give me 1000 swings against R.A ey, I'm gonna hit one of his inevitable fat pitches he will throw (that I've witnessed too many times this year)
The difference is just negligible to me and like I said before I follow both sports. The threads are good entertainment though tbh.
Oh, and how about the reverse of this?Oh its much different getting a hit (as in a ground ball that could at least challenge for a base hit) off a MLB pitcher vs batting cage. But I'd say the same as playing basketball at the Y vs facing Isiah Thomas one on one if he's locked in to guard you. I mean, I'm pretty sure if you give me 1000 swings against R.A ey, I'm gonna hit one of his inevitable fat pitches he will throw (that I've witnessed too many times this year)
The difference is just negligible to me and like I said before I follow both sports. The threads are good entertainment though tbh.
Could you strikeout someone like Daniel Murphy or Mike Trout if you had a thousand pitches?
(You might be able to get them out, though. They could very well belt a hard liner right to an infielder. Batting practice pitches are about 60 mph and we see in the HR derby that they can be popped up and such).
Anwer to OP, yes it is.
Whats with all that chewing tobacco ?
It's 1-on-1, if you gamble or guess wrong, you get beat to the hoop unlike a multiplayer game where you have a big man to back you up at the rack. If someone shoots over you and you don't block it, then it has a chance of going in. The fact that LeBron would have no enforcer behind him or that I can launch a shot after the check ball means I stand a chance of scoring on him. There are ways to mitigate or neutralize his size in some scenarios, there are ways to use you body to shield him off and keep some space.
Lebron would snatch the soul outta your body on the first possession, you are living in a fantasy world. You might actually die on the court...15-4?
There was no average Joe beating LeBron 1 on 1, thats just ficiton. There was the video of Jordan Crawford (who played in NBA) 'dunking on' LeBron in a scrimmage team game.
And as it stands LeBron probably scores 50 straight points on me. But don't make it out like he's a god. In a 1-on-1 scenario, he's just one man, albeit THE man at the current moment. This isn't like an MLB pitcher throwing a fastball or something with some English on it or me trying to hold onto the ball while getting rocked by a linebacker in mid-flight. I'd actually stand a worse chance of beating Steph Curry since he can hit 3's like layups and could keep up with me and my quickness+agility better than LeBron.
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