Tony Parker draining half-court shots at Spurs Camp

[ElNono]

Sure. $100 per child. He's so generous...Good for him!

http://www.youth-basketball-camps.co...sketball-camp/

That probably barely covers renting the place, tbh... and he's putting his time in it while he could be texting LMA's wife or sunbathing in the Bahamas...

You gotta give him some credit.

[Mikeanaro]

Strange that in order to have an opinion about one great player's greatness, you have to paint the other great player as a scrub. If half the you guys say were the case, then neither of them is better than Ice.

Nobody said half the is truth, it could be 3/4 is there a formula to calculate that?
Since Ice has never won both are better, why do you bring him to the conversation? dude was a coke dealer...

[Darius McCrary]

That shot and the 0.4 game Duncan shot before Fisher's shot are two of the most clutch shots in the entire HISTORY of the NBA, that will go forgotten because of what happened second(s) later.

[TheGoldStandard]

All of you guys missed the most obvious joke.. He had a plethora of unguarded guys on the baseline and still took that shot.

[bklynspursfan]

Strange that in order to have an opinion about one great player's greatness, you have to paint the other great player as a scrub. If half the you guys say were the case, then neither of them is better than Ice.

It makes no sense... It just helps to have the ignore list, to try and weed out the non-sense as much as possible

[SpursforSix]

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Manu says hi

The Iceman says hi

In the year 2020, the Claw says hi

Even Rod Stickland and Alvin Robertson say o.

[TD 21]

If this is not a Kawhi's thread, you shouldn't mention him...

Unlike our starting PG, Kawhi elevated his PER in playoffs, only LeBron had a higher number than him.

So did Aldridge, yet he receives constant criticism.

Doesn't matter what those numbers say, last two season he was bigtime dissepointment that was falling under the pressure come playoff time...

True, but people have to realize and/or accept, that Leonard isn't the typical elite player. He's never going to be a great breakdown or creator type.

The reality is, they're going to have to find a dynamic guard, who excels at these things, in order to have a legitimate chance to win a championship during this era.

[dabom]

So did Aldridge, yet he receives constant criticism.




True, but people have to realize and/or accept, that Leonard isn't the typical elite player. He's never going to be a great breakdown or creator type.

The reality is, they're going to have to find a dynamic guard, who excels at these things, in order to have a legitimate chance to win a championship during this era.

We need an average scorer off the guard position. Emphasis on average. Our OLD guard are old. We can't blame Kawhi for no being able to win with that cast. Even Duncan blew out his tires.

Kawhi was amazing to me. The car has been riding on rims for a while now.

[callo1]

I thought that last season TP played the best defense in his career. He can still improve, but at least he doesn't play D like Harden.

I agree that he needs to reinvent his game to a degree. Be consistent enough to hit the three ball places other than the corners.

[TD 21]

We need an average scorer off the guard position. Emphasis on average. Our OLD guard are old. We can't blame Kawhi for no being able to win with that cast. Even Duncan blew out his tires.

Kawhi was amazing to me. The car has been riding on rims for a while now.

No, "we" need a lead ball handler/play maker because that's never going to be Leonard's game, especially not for a team with championship aspirations.

No one is blaming him, though I don't see why he should be exempt from being judged by the same cliche standards that every other player of and above his magnitude is.

He's (along with Pop, in terms of the national media) got the best gig in the league, in the sense that, when they look like a juggernaut, he receives most of the credit. When they don't, everyone else receives most of the blame.

[dabom]

No, "we" need a lead ball handler/play maker because that's never going to be Leonard's game, especially not for a team with championship aspirations.

No one is blaming him, though I don't see why he should be exempt from being judged by the same cliche standards that every other player of and above his magnitude is.

He's (along with Pop, in terms of the national media) got the best gig in the league, in the sense that, when they look like a juggernaut, he receives most of the credit. When they don't, everyone else receives most of the blame.

Are you gonna blame Kawhi for past last playoffs? because you just said to advocate it.

[dabom]

I'm pretty sure we just need a scorer off the guard position. Bare minimum. And we win 3 ships in a row.

[TD 21]

Are you gonna blame Kawhi for past last playoffs? because you just said to advocate it.

Yeah, because right or wrongly, the star(s) usually receive the brunt of the blame.

In many cases, it's stupid, but why should he be exempt? In 2 playoff runs as the best player on the team, they've lost 2 series they were favored in (shouldn't have been, but whatever), with 4 losses at home and without him damn near single handedly winning a game they otherwise wouldn't have.

[dabom]

Yeah, because right or wrongly, the star(s) usually receive the brunt of the blame.

In many cases, it's stupid, but why should he be exempt? In 2 playoff runs as the best player on the team, they've lost 2 series they were favored in (shouldn't have been, but whatever), with 4 losses at home and without him damn near single handedly winning a game they otherwise wouldn't have.

Are you blaming him though. Because I got facts for you. Don't dance around it.

[TD 21]

Are you blaming him though. Because I got facts for you. Don't dance around it.

I'm not blaming him, but by the cliche standards established, players of and above his caliber generally get criticized in these situations. Heaven forbid he receive some though.

[dabom]

I'm not blaming him, but by the cliche standards established, players of and above his caliber generally get criticized in these situations. Heaven forbid he receive some though.

He has always been getting better and better. This year will be his very first peak year.

[dabom]

And he has been a monster already.

[TD 21]

He has always been getting better and better. This year will be his very first peak year.

Parker, to this day, criticized for '03, '04 and '05, when he was 21-23 and not the best player on the team, but a guy who's older and just finished 2nd in MVP voting needs excuses made for him?

[dabom]

Parker, to this day, criticized for '03, '04 and '05, when he was 21-23 and not the best player on the team, but a guy who's older and just finished 2nd in MVP voting needs excuses made for him?

Kawhi wasn't playing alongside 03, 04, 05 Duncan. League ed.

[Obstructed_View]

Nobody said half the is truth, it could be 3/4 is there a formula to calculate that?
Since Ice has never won both are better, why do you bring him to the conversation? dude was a coke dealer...

So by that logic, Robert Horry is better than Duncan.

[TD 21]

Kawhi wasn't playing alongside 03, 04, 05 Duncan. League ed.

No, he was only playing alongside, what was statistically one of the greatest regular season teams of all time . . . but keep moving the goal posts and making excuses.

[dabom]

No, he was only playing alongside, what was statistically one of the greatest regular season teams of all time . . . but keep moving the goal posts and making excuses.

You found your hyperbole.

[TD 21]

You found your hyperbole.

I said statistically and it's not an opinion, it's a fact.

[dabom]

I said statistically and it's not an opinion, it's a fact.

Not really. And it doesn't even matter if we're talking about the ing regular season.

[SASdynasty!]

Notably, all the Parker nut-huggers' material ends after 2013. Whatever Parker was, dude is slow and fat now. It's all good, getting old happens, but the beef is that he hasn't refined his game and keeps trying to play the same old way. Why that cat gotta keep pressing the "hero-ball, dribble-nonstop" button when he's a s of his former self? He needs to refine his 3-point and midrange game and look to facilitate, not run the shot clock down and then dump it off to Kawhi with 6 seconds on the clock.

After 2013? How about 2014 when he was the only All-Star on the team? Oh, and the only All-NBA player. Oh, and he led the team in scoring throughout the regular season, playoffs, and finals. Oh, and he led the Spurs in assists throughout the regular season and playoffs on the way to another championship.