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    Just an awful league right now. Killed my interest in a sport I do like.

    College game is much better.

    In 2010, Nielsen reported that 51% of viewers prefer the commercials to the game itself.[1

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    But "Why" cub? I know that it ain't letting up, but "Why?"
    I think it was the draw of something "free" and "American" in a time when (a lot) of people lost everything/job, money, home. It was like eating comfort food when you're under terrible stress. 3-4 hours at a hit (4-5 times a week) in front of a television regarding something that had absolutely no impact on what had been happening to the financial structure of this country.

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    There isn't a "Perfect Sport". All these "sports" have problems. NFL has too many commercials, MLB has too many pitching changes, Soccer has 0-0 tie games. And that's just scratching the surface of the things wrong with those sports.

    Even with all those commercial breaks in the NFL...that sport still DOMINATES the ratings. Why is that? Obviously they're doing something right. Why does a Seahawks/Raiders/Buccaneers/Jaguars fan(s) watch a Cowboys vs. Giants game early in the season?
    Because the NFL has a small supply of games, so every game is meaningful and is basically a playoff game.

    The NFL are also brilliant marketers and have figured out how to promote each game as an "event." Fantasy football also plays a huge role here, as people watch to see how their fantasy players do instead of actually watching the game.

    Like I said, I have no problem with football the sport. I don't have ADD, as I said, and one common complaint from people (usually soccer fans) trying to get into the NFL is that there are too many stoppages in play and they become bored because there's not "enough running around." Football is a slower paced sport, nothing wrong with that. I just despise the commercials and how so many penalties come down to judgement calls that are inconsistently called.

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    Because the NFL has a small supply of games, so every game is meaningful and is basically a playoff game.

    The NFL are also brilliant marketers and have figured out how to promote each game as an "event." Fantasy football also plays a huge role here, as people watch to see how their fantasy players do instead of actually watching the game.

    Like I said, I have no problem with football the sport. I don't have ADD, as I said, and one common complaint from people (usually soccer fans) trying to get into the NFL is that there are too many stoppages in play and they become bored because there's not "enough running around." Football is a slower paced sport, nothing wrong with that. I just despise the commercials and how so many penalties come down to judgement calls that are inconsistently called.
    Totally agree. When you've got single elimination games like in the NFL that makes a huge difference. It's the reason why Game 7s get such a high rating. You know who will win based on that one game.

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    Fatball vs Povertyball vs FOOBAWWWW/BudLightBall?


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    I've said it before and I'll say it again: today's NFL is to sports what Nickelback is to music, what Call of Duty is to video games, what Game of Thrones is to TV shows, and what Marvel is to movies. It's a generic watered-down product marketed as a Big Event towards the lowest common denominator. It's basically a giant advertisement.

    Case in point: defense isn't allowed anymore because it doesn't jive with all the fantasy football leagues being shoved down our throats. Furthermore, the sheer amount of calls and no-calls that teams like the Patriots, Steelers and Broncos have received for decades would make David Stern blush at how obvious the rigging is.

    I still watch the out of habit at this point, but nobody can tell me with a straight face that college football isn't the superior product. It's not even close, actually. Thanks to Goodell and Media, football is now the only sport where watching amateurs play is better than watching the pros.

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    But "Why" cub? I know that it ain't letting up, but "Why?"
    Because Americans have a diseased gene pool that enamors them with violence. If the "attraction" were inherent to the "sport", then it would have spread to other populations. The Aussies and Euros would have mandated helmets in their equivalents by now. But it is uniquely American to crave "someone might be paralyzed or die" in 11 minutes of action that they waste 3+ hours waiting for the violence to play out on live TV.

    It's not something knuckledraggers from Mississippi can understand.

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    I've said it before and I'll say it again: today's NFL is to sports what Nickelback is to music, what Call of Duty is to video games, what Game of Thrones is to TV shows, and what Marvel is to movies. It's a generic watered-down product marketed as a Big Event towards the lowest common denominator. It's basically a giant advertisement.

    Case in point: defense isn't allowed anymore because it doesn't jive with all the fantasy football leagues being shoved down our throats. Furthermore, the sheer amount of calls and no-calls that teams like the Patriots, Steelers and Broncos have received for decades would make David Stern blush at how obvious the rigging is.

    I still watch the out of habit at this point, but nobody can tell me with a straight face that college football isn't the superior product. It's not even close, actually. Thanks to Goodell and Media, football is now the only sport where watching amateurs play is better than watching the pros.


    And another thing I resent is how the NFL basically turned the sport into a joke with their excessive commercialization. It's the only sport on Earth that is known for people who watch just to see the commercials rather than the game itself.

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    It's not something knuckledraggers from Mississippi can understand.
    We don't understand povertyball either...guess it's not in our cousin- ing gene pool either.

    Nobody watches football thinking I want to see someone get paralyzed or die. You're just throwing at the wall...

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    And another thing I resent is how the NFL basically turned the sport into a joke with their excessive commercialization. It's the only sport on Earth that is known for people who watch just to see the commercials rather than the game itself.
    That 's re ed. The commercials are some of the only things left on television that are cornier than an actual NFL game

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    Because Americans have a diseased gene pool that enamors them with violence. If the "attraction" were inherent to the "sport", then it would have spread to other populations. The Aussies and Euros would have mandated helmets in their equivalents by now. But it is uniquely American to crave "someone might be paralyzed or die" in 11 minutes of action that they waste 3+ hours waiting for the violence to play out on live TV.

    It's not something knuckledraggers from Mississippi can understand.
    Rugby is just as dangerous as American football, and I think paralysis is more common in that sport due to collapsing scrums. In fact, it's often something Rugby fans point out. "Oi, mate. We're such tuff blokes we don't need any of that bollocks armour you Yanks mess with."

    Rugby fans also like sending up soccer by comparing "toughness."


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    We don't understand povertyball either...guess it's not in our cousin- ing gene pool either.

    Nobody watches football thinking I want to see someone get paralyzed or die. You're just throwing at the wall...
    Correct on point 1.

    Somewhat correct on point 2, you have to love mass marketing being shoved down your throat in addition to the mass violence.

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    Rugby is just as dangerous as American football, and I think paralysis is more common in that sport due to collapsing scrums. In fact, it's often something Rugby fans point out. "Oi, mate. We're such tuff blokes we don't need any of that bollocks armour you Yanks mess with."

    Rugby fans also like sending up soccer by comparing "toughness."

    I knew I'd get you posting with the "America is not the greatest country in the history of the universe" theme

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    Correct on point 1.

    Somewhat correct on point 2, you have to love mass marketing being shoved down your throat in addition to the mass violence.
    ^
    This guy watches the outta American Football. You can find him in every game thread.

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    I knew I'd get you posting with the "America is not the greatest country in the history of the universe" theme


    Nah, the theme that gets me posting is the, "Europeans are tolerant, enlightened, peaceful" one.

    They love violence in sports as much as we do. More in fact, since there are dedicated fan groups who only exist to beat the out of another dedicated fan group to within a inch of their lives.




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    This guy watches the outta American Football. You can find him in every game thread.
    I've never posted in the NFL forum. The exception might be to lol at people who find the NFL entertaining.

    I also never said I wasn't susceptible to the mass violence American football sells, especially when branded with an alma mater.

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    Nah, the theme that gets me posting is the, "Europeans are tolerant, enlightened, peaceful" one.

    They love violence in sports as much as we do. More in fact, since there are dedicated fan groups who only exist to beat the out of another dedicated fan group to within a inch of their lives.
    Drunken fan violence != sanctioned in-sport violence

    I don't see bench clearing brawls in football (soccer for you simpletons) like in fatbol

    I don't see 90% brain damage in retired players like in the NFL

    I don't see legal, sanctioned fighting in hockey outside of the NHL

    America has a unique, genetic predisposition to violence as entertainment not seen anywhere else in the 21st century civilized world.

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    I've never posted in the NFL forum. The exception might be to lol at people who find the NFL entertaining.

    I also never said I wasn't susceptible to the mass violence American football sells, especially when branded with an alma mater.
    And foobaw is a great sport when not constantly interrupted by commercials and drives ruined by incompetent referees.

    I think you're susceptible to miracle Hail Marys, game changing interceptions, runs that look to be 5 yard losses broken for a big gain.

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    Drunken fan violence != sanctioned in-sport violence

    I don't see bench clearing brawls in football (soccer for you simpletons) like in fatbol

    I don't see 90% brain damage in retired players like in the NFL

    I don't see legal, sanctioned fighting in hockey outside of the NHL

    America has a unique, genetic predisposition to violence as entertainment not seen anywhere else in the 21st century civilized world.
    American calling soccer football

    As for the rest:

    Boxing and even MMA are on a decline in the US, while boxing is surging in the UK:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/oth...the-world.html

    "I don't see bench clearing brawls in soccer."





    Don't lie to kick it. You really haven't been a soccer fan for very long, have you? If you have, you'd know how corrupt, violent (yes, violent, on the field and off), and racist (fans throwing bananas at black players; fans with Nazi themed banners, etc) "the beautiful game is."

    NHL is a Canadian league, and it's popular in Sweden and Finland, as well.
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    American calling soccer football

    As for the rest:

    Boxing and even MMA are on a decline in the US, while boxing is surging in the UK:

    http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/oth...the-world.html

    "I don't see bench clearing brawls in soccer."



    at posting 380px video compilation of football fights in the last 20 years of 3rd world countries when fatbol has a 50 person fight like every week, leading to articles rooting for and ranking on-field mass brawls half way through the season such as:

    Ranking the best bench clearing brawls of the MLB first-half

    Of course, none of the video can be embedded because the MLB Nazi's don't allow anything youtube

    eating fried chicken during a game
    drinking during a game
    bunch of drunks fighting during games
    50 player brawls
    "the hope diamond of baseball brawls"
    fake tough guys
    only "entertaining" part of the sport are fat white guys fighting
    sports writers ranking the 1/2 season of brawls with grades
    imagine if the sport was dominated by blacks
    imagine if this happened in the NBA

    By Dan Carson @thedoctorcarsonJul 11, 2016 at 2:54p ET
    Well, we're halfway there.

    It feels like we've only just begun, but with the MLB All-Star game (read: Chicago Cubs-American League throwdown) on Tuesday night, the MLB is in mid-season form with the fall looming on the horizon.

    And now, of all times, is the right time for a brief retrospective on this season's most inconsistent but entertaining happenings: bench-clearing brawls. We've had a few potential all-timers so far this year, and I think it's high time the hierarchy of face-punching and chest-shovery is set in stone.


    Let's get started.

    5. Osich goes back-to-back
    Two nights in a row, Joey Osich zipped in high, inside fastballs at David Peralta, tagging him in the left arm.

    Neither seemed to be intentional, but two's the limit, and after the second plunking, Peralta flipped his batter in a very "I'm about to beat your insides out" manner.

    But no such beatdown came to pass, and after some mild, hubbub, the ensuing bench-clearing ended without incident. Womp womp.

    Grade: C- for starting strong but ending with zero fireworks.

    4. Jeff Francoeur enters his feelings
    This was a weird one.

    For whatever reason, Jeff Francoeur took exception to a pitch winged belt-high and inside by Hector Rondon late in a tilt against the Chicago Cubs this July.

    There was likely no intent, as the game hung in the balance and hitting Francoeur would've put the go-ahead run on base.

    But Francoeur didn't appreciate having the tower buzzed and, according to Cubs catch Willson Contreras, started talking after the pitch.

    "I call a fastball in, and he doesn't appreciate that," Contreras said. "We're just trying to go in on him, and after that he starts talking to me."

    Grade: C for a pitcher walking to protect his catcher, for a change.

    3. The Bat Man Cometh
    Back in May, Jose Abreu did a thing you don't often see during a bench-clearing situation: continue holding the bat as you walk at the pitcher.

    Yeah, that's not, uh, ideal. And commentators quickly noted that Abreu probably should've dropped the lumber after Twins pitcher Trevor May nailed him with 97-mph heat during a White Sox blowout in May.

    But Abreu held the bat, perhaps unconsciously, and while nothing came of the incident, he later said it was one of the more uncharacteristic moments of his career.

    "I was out of character," Abreu said. "It was something in the game."

    Grade: B- for speaking softly and carrying a big stick.

    2. Manny at the mound
    He's calmed down a bit from 2015's bean-a-palooza, but Yordano Ventura continues to exhibit historically low levels of chill when the mood so strikes him.

    Back in June, the Royals pitcher provoked his most ridiculous bench-clearing to date, tagging Baltimore Orioles third baseman Manny Machado in the leg at Camden Yard.

    The result was Machado rushing the mound and doing a rare thing: actually throwing a punch in a baseball brawl.

    Grade: A- for vintage Yordano petulance and this guy's "I'm just here for the shrimp" fighting face.

    "I don't know what to do with my hands."

    1. Joey Bashed
    This is it. The Mother of All Pearls. The Hope diamond of baseball brawls.

    We may never witness a more perfect baseball punch than the Hammer of Thor Rougned Odor dropped onto Jose Bautista's jaw after a hard, low slide in May.

    Bautista came in hot looking to break up a double play, and Odor wasn't having none of it, throwing a punch that was felt throughout the collective citizenry of Canada. The meme-ry that followed should be ensconced in a museum.
    media ranking and celebrating sport-sanctioned violence

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    The sheer amount of estrogen that emanates from s' posts makes Lifetime movies look like Chuck Norris flicks.

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    The sheer amount of people that ignore my posts gives me a sad

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    at posting 380px video compilation of football fights in the last 20 years of 3rd world countries when fatbol has a 50 person fight like every week, leading to articles rooting for and ranking on-field mass brawls half way through the season such as:

    Ranking the best bench clearing brawls of the MLB first-half

    Of course, none of the video can be embedded because the MLB Nazi's don't allow anything youtube

    eating fried chicken during a game
    drinking during a game
    bunch of drunks fighting during games
    50 player brawls
    "the hope diamond of baseball brawls"
    fake tough guys
    only "entertaining" part of the sport are fat white guys fighting
    sports writers ranking the 1/2 season of brawls with grades
    imagine if the sport was dominated by blacks
    imagine if this happened in the NBA



    media ranking sport-sanctioned violence




    All recent.

    Not to mention this embarrassment:



    Soccer: The only sport in the world where a player had a "bite compilation" made in his "honor."

    "I watched "football" and thus became enlightened."









    http://screamer.deadspin.com/racist-...bla-1688283860

    "I get to watch this beautiful game with my tolerant, enlightened, and peaceful European friends."

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    that's the best you can do to find comparable bench-clearing brawls? How about sports writers celebrating those "fights"? The rest of your post isn't relevant to sport-sanctioned in-game brawls.

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    Honestly, baseball should be an egalitarian like Splits's favorite game, since it's the sport most consistent with that philosophy.

    - It's the most racially diverse sport in the world relative to success. Yes, soccer is the most racially diverse sport in the world, but the only countries to really have success at the International level are white European countries and Latino countries. Meanwhile, the Dominicans (who are primarily of African descent) won a WBC, and Japan has won two. Venezuelans, who are light skinned Latinos, finished 3rd and produce some of the best players in the world.

    - Height isn't a strict barrier to entry to becoming an elite player. The 5'5" Jose Altuve is the best American League player right now, and the 6'5" Kris Bryant is the best National League player (soccer is diverse in this aspect as well).

    - All players will get a similar amount of chances to shine. Yes there's a batting order, but there's not a strict hierarchy (and egalitarians hate hierarchies) of roles that players are forced into. For example, you'll never see an offensive guard be the hero save for a few ultra rare cases. You'll never see a Bruce Bowen type player get 25 shots per game in an important playoff game. A soccer offense won't be built around a defensive back. But each player will get about 4 or 5 at bats, star player or not. You can't give all the at bats to Mike Trout.

    - Player contracts are guaranteed!

    - One of the safest sports.

    Come home, Splits.
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