Not arguing its not a disappointment ...
Im telling you where I rank them. 2004 had a legit le shot.
2013 never wore legit contenders ... at least to ME.
and i called that early on.
Im not arguing that the 2013 was not overhyped so not sure what you are even disputing ...
Im actually proud of the fact that i was one of the few that saw the 2013 as fraudulent. All you are doing is showing me how unbiased I can be ...vegas, laker fan laker haters all thought we would win.
As for 2004 didnt say it wasnt a big upset again based on hype it was ...but i also was rightfully scared of the Pistons ...and when everyone was calling sweep or Lakers in 5 ...i was arguing we were in trouble ...
So of course you think the way you do ...because you did not see what i did.
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Only pussies & assholes blame the officiating.
Only pussies & assholes blame the officiating.
Fine. A le favorite just eeking into the playoffs is enormously disappointing.
That Barkley Pippen dream Clyde rockets have to be there somewhere.
thought the same ...
That team never existed. It was Clyde, Barkley, Olajuwon in '97 and maybe '98 and then after Clyde left Pippen joined Barkley and Olajuwon in '99 in the lockout season. And I would hardly call them a super-team considering all of them were past their primes. Barkley was 35-36, Olajuwon was 36 and Pippen was 33-34 and just coming off back surgery after the '98 Finals. They were the all-geriatric team lol.
That backcourt was too in 99, I think they were starting a rookie Michael erson and a rookie Cuttino Mobley. Both were talented and became good players but hard to call that a superteam when it was starting two rookies. That was such a terrible situation for Pippen since Barkley and Olajuwon would just take 10 seconds backing their man down every single possession and half of Pippens shots would be desperation threes at the shot clock buzzer off passes from Barkley and Olajuwon. And of course Rocket fan blamed Scottie instead of their two black holes on the block. The 99 Rockets had maybe the ugliest offense I have seen since Fratello's Cavs.
So past their prime players disqualify you mean like malone and GP in 2004
Or nash in 2013?
They (rox) were a superteam on paper as well ...
Shaq and Kobe were prime in 2004, Kobe and Howard were hyped as prime in 2013.
Yeah, I think age disqualifies any team that has over the hill stars that can't do what they once did on a consistent basis. It's like calling the 2012 Celtics a superteam because they still had Pierce, Ray Allen and KG. They were a superteam in '08 but in '12 those ers were OLD and couldn't perform consistently like they did in their late 20's, early 30's.
04 Lakers win the le against any other East champion from 1999-2007.
That one time Knicks had Ewing, LJ, Allan Houston and Sprewell...
Pippen was a cancer everywhere he played without Jordan. That can't be argued.
The that's two disappointing super teams then.
No way can I not call an Olajuwon Barkley Clyde/Pippen team a superteam. And those were disappointing teams too.
Nash was geriatric when he joined the lakers, so was Kobe. Same as Malone and Payton.
That's about not utilizing strengths and integrating the right talents.
We all know Barkley can't do anything but pound the ball on offense. He did it his entire basketball career. And it alos shows how good Olajuwon is when he isn't Surrounded by three point shooters.
He played well with the Blazers.
Why is Rocket fan so bitter at Pippen? Rudy T just stuck him at the three point line to be a spot up shooter and bail out Barkley and Olajuwon. Why would you use a ballhandler like Pippen in a role that mismatched to his skillset? He's Scottie Pippen, one of the great point forwards of all-time, he's not ing Danny Green. That wouldn't have worked even when Barkley and Olajuwon were still devastating options down low, much less when both were so washed up by 1999. That was a painful team to watch and Rudy coached it like he still had 95 Olajuwon and 93 Barkley and as if Pippen was Bruce Bowen. And fatass Barkley who never won calling out Pippen as uncommitted on NBC.
True, but Barkley didn't back it down 10-15 seconds every possession like he did on that 99 Rockets team once he was so far past his prime. That Rockets team had to be the inspiration for the five second backdown rule. That team made the 99 Spurs look like 7 seconds or less.
How the was Kobe prime in 2013?
Wow we agree. 2004 definitely more disapointing because Kobe was nearing his prime and Shaq was just past his
..
wow....the standards for being a super team sure have fallen.......
No doubt. Barkley got results when he was in his prime and didn't get it done when he was past his prime but didn't realize it.
He still pounded the ball like crazy when he was inphilly and Phoenix.
They are all disappointing though.
As for primes. Shaq was still there. Not 2001 prime but he was still top 2 or 3 player that year. Kobes prime is hard to define. He's the best 05 to 07 but the best version and most productive version of Kobe was 2002.
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