Lets remember how Kawhi owned Westgod

[gambit1990]

by saying Parker was a ball hog which basically is code word for a chucker.

ball hog means ball hog. chucker means chucker. what word did i use ?

[houston spurs fan]

Hey props to Westbrook by not running away and joining a team like the Clippers or something. Dude made a commitment to that small community albeit only for another year but it gives OKC some stress relief. That's a guy I'd want to play with, not some soft ring chaser like KD...

[lefty]

people giving kawhi for deferring

kawhi defers when parker's on the court. the same people here who are fine with parker hogging the ball through three quarters are the same ones who all of sudden want a different game plan in the 4th quarter.

he's bad for kawhi's growth. how many times have you ever seen parker help get kawhi easy buckets? i've said it before, we have to iso so much because parker can't create.

i hope parker's ass gets shipped out. he's more detrimental to the team than most of spurstalk is smart enough to recognize.

[TheGreatYacht]

People actually read Gambit's posts? that got can't take Parker's out his mouth tbh

[K...]

People actually read Gambit's posts? that got can't take Parker's out his ass tbh

[K...]

thanks for citing an irrelevant fact, did you see me say anything about parker shooting too much? me neither. try better next time tbh.

Do you have the stats to back up your over dribbling claim? They exist tbh. Also what's your opinion on the ball dominant guy that plays for the clippers. Chris Paul loves his dribble too. Chris Paul will be Parker old soon enough, I am thinking we'd be happy to have Parker for half the salary at that point of Chris Paul.

[gambit1990]

People actually read Gambit's posts? that got can't take Parker's out his mouth tbh

i don't even want him on the team. you're the one still calling him MVParker.

[gambit1990]

of course K... would agree with thegreat . if great minds think alike then this proves re ed minds think alike as well.

[Tully365]

Tully365 is there more than just shooting percentages? like Total production?

Sure-- there's also being a good enough teammate so that the guys playing alongside you don't want to leave. That's kind of important. How many big name teammates ever left Tim Duncan?

[dabom]

Sure-- there's also being a good enough teammate so that the guys playing alongside you don't want to leave. That's kind of important. How many big name teammates ever left Tim Duncan?

Who was even talking about that?

[tholdren]

people giving kawhi for deferring

kawhi defers when parker's on the court. the same people here who are fine with parker hogging the ball through three quarters are the same ones who all of sudden want a different game plan in the 4th quarter.

he's bad for kawhi's growth. how many times have you ever seen parker help get kawhi easy buckets? i've said it before, we have to iso so much because parker can't create.

i hope parker's ass gets shipped out. he's more detrimental to the team than most of spurstalk is smart enough to recognize.

KL absolutely did not 'defer' to anyone in the 4th.
He was ineffective.

It's hilarious to listen to KL apologists. Really? So he wasn't a 4th option when he won the FMVP, yet years later he is deferring? This is about as terrible as Chinook's pretending to understand statistics meltdowns.

[daslicer]

of course K... would agree with thegreat . if great minds think alike then this proves re ed minds think alike as well.

That would be you and Dabomb.

[dabom]

I love when people misspell my nick. Like for real guys... That's some third grade .

[daslicer]

I love when people misspell my nick. Like for real guys... That's some third grade .

I love it when people are too scared to address me directly.

[dabom]

I love it when people are too scared to address me directly.

I was saying that in general.

why would anyone be scared? And why'd you leave without saying a word earlier. Mad much?

[tholdren]

Its not a pissing contest - LMA and KL Were LOSERS when it was on the line.

Game 2: Spurs lost by 2
KL went 7/18 and scored 14pts - KL was 1/4 with a TO in the 4th
LMA went 15/21 and had 41 13 of those points were consecutive in the 4th with 3 minutes to go.

Game 4: Spurs lost by 14
KL went 7/19 scored 21 and had 4 TOs
LMA 8/18 scored 20 and had 2 TOS

4pt game with 7 minutes to go. In that span:
KL 0/3 with a TO
LMA 0/2

Game 5 - Spurs lost by 4
KL 12/21 for 26pts
LMA 6/21 for 6pts

In the 4th spurs led by 3 to start
KL - 2/4
LMA - 0/3

Game 6 - Spurs lost by 14
KL - 9/23 for 22pts
LMA - 9/18 for 19pts

LMA and Tim came out balling - KL and Anderson bent Spurs over.

LMA was statistically both basic and advanced, not to mention eye test, better than KL. They both suck in the clutch. Which is why it's re ed to post things about KL being amazing. He's a good player. But he's failed the last 2 playoffs. He, like Gregg, lived off the big three. The end.

We're done here

[YGWHI]

So he wasn't a 4th option when he won the FMVP

4th option? Another stupid take.

He won the FMVP because he was the best Spurs player on both ends against the best player in the world, in the last 3 games of the Finals.

He was the Spurs leading scorer and #1b option in those games.

Kawhi 11.6 FGA 23.66 ppg

Parker 14.33 FGA 16.6 ppg

Tim 9 FGA 12.6 ppg

Manu 7.66 FGA 12.33 ppg

[YGWHI]

Game 5 - Spurs lost by 4
KL 12/21 for 26pts
LMA 6/21 for 6pts

In the 4th spurs led by 3 to start
KL - 2/4
LMA - 0/3

And still Parker took the last shot?

Kawhi disappearing in the 4th quarter is on him and not Parker. If he wants the ball in the fourth quarter he needs to call for it and stop being a mute.

Really? I wonder what's the job of a PG, a true floor-general. To try to find and pass the ball to his main scorers? Try to feed the guy with the hot hand?

Other PGs don't need their main scorer to ask them for the ball, why does Parker need it?

[daslicer]

And still Parker took the last shot.



I wonder what's the job of a PG, a true floor-general. Try to find and pass the ball to his main scorers? Try to feed the guy with the hot hand?

Other PGs don't need their main scorer to ask them for the ball, why does Parker need it?

Quit being stupid there isn't a true PG in the current NBA outside of Chris Paul. All these guys are undersized SG's forced to play 1. Stop making excuses for Kawhi being a mute. If he wants the ball he is going to have to call for it. Even Jordan had to yell every now and then to get the ball. Perimeter players don't have the luxury of being super introverted on the court. Can you name a super introverted perimeter player that scores 20 plus a game in this league outside of Kawhi? Then again I can't take your seriously since you have only been a Spurs fan since 2014 which makes you a Kawhi .

[YGWHI]

Then again I can't take your seriously since you have only been a Spurs fan since 2014 which makes you a Kawhi .

Is this your best argument against "Parker should facilitate the offense, and pass the ball to his main scorers instead of thinking he's still in his prime and take the last shot"?

Do you think you know me? I have been a Spurs fan since I can remember, it's a family business, since my dad -one of DRob's/Spurs biggest fans in the world- made me one.

A few weeks ago, some guy was trolling me on twitter saying that Tim wasn't great with stupid Shaq/KG's stats...That reminded me of my first fight in the real life... And it was for Tim
https://twitter.com/MRJEODLL/status/747678558542270465

But my best Duncan's memory isn't a play.
I was 4 years old when the Spurs won in 1999, and still remember my dad celebrating, throwing me into the air like a baby, then doing the same with my sisters, he seemed so happy...

Tim is in my heart where those memories reside now.

[YGWHI]

Stop making excuses for Kawhi being a mute.

And really, stop making excuses for Parker being a negative Net in playoffs, for taking the last shot in a crucial playoffs game when he was 4-12, for still looking for his own shot when he should create for others...

[daslicer]

Is this your best argument against "Parker should facilitate the offense, and pass the ball to his main scorers instead of thinking he's still in his prime and take the last shot over Kawhi/LMA"?

Do you think you know me? I have been a Spurs fan since I can remember, it's a family business, since my dad -one of DRob's/Spurs biggest fans in the world- made me one.

Parker is only averaging around 9 FG attempts a game so I don't know what the are you talking about when you keep on whining about him taking away shots away from Kawhi/LMA when in fact his FG attempts dropped in the playoffs. Kawhi is not a guy who can carry team in the 4th quarter. I have pretty much accepted it where people are going to make excuses for his failures whether its Parker holding him back or Pop screwing up in some way. I have the Spurs winning 55-60 games but losing to the Warriors or Clippers due to Kawhi again not being able to deliver when it matters in the 4th. You can also say LMA doesn't have that ability either. This season is going to be very predictable we will have a lot of Kawhi MVP threads after wins along with a lot of Parker hating threads after every loss. On the record I don't think Parker is an all-star player but at the same time he's not the reason why Kawhi disappears in these big games. I'm always going to hold it against Kawhi for not being vocal because basketball is not a sport you can get away with being quiet at the perimeter positions. Even at the lowest levels at a young age you are taught to call for the ball which makes it pretty pathetic that Kawhi needs Pop to speak up for him. Safe to say you are a bandwagon fan since you are way too young to have any appreciation for the Spurs first 3 les and became a fan after they were established.

[daslicer]

And really, stop making excuses for Parker being a negative Net in playoffs, for taking the last shot in a crucial playoffs game when he was 4-12, for still looking for his own shot when he should create for others...

Spoken like the true Kawhi you are. So why can't Kawhi demand the ball from Parker? Pop has given him the green light on offense to take whatever shot he wants. You act like the man is 5 years old. Again name me a perimeter player that has been a 20 point scorer that is highly introverted like Kawhi and has lead his team to a championship being the number 1 guy on offense.

[YGWHI]

Kawhi is not a guy who can carry team in the 4th quarter.

But he did it in two games in the playoffs, taking over in the 4th quarter of game 3 against the Grizz and game 3 OKC series, scoring 14 points in the last quarter.

Obviously it wasn't enough.

But there is a difference between "he can't do it" and "he doesn't do it often enough"

I'm optimist about his game. He'll deliver more consistently when he reaches his prime in two or three years.

Pop screwing up in some way

Of course, Pop's specific plays designed to close games/series were great...

Safe to say you are a bandwagon fan since you are way too young to have any appreciation for the Spurs first 3 les and became a fan after they were established.

"If you weren't in your early 20's in 1999...you're a bandwagon Spurs fan.

Only old fans matter. We're the only true fans who appreciate Spurs first les."

This logic...

[YGWHI]

Pop has given him the green light on offense to take whatever shot he wants.

Of course. That's why Pop called a Parker/LMA pick and roll to close game 5...