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    Parker has fans ?





    poor souls

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    If he actually sucked, I don't think people would have to go to so much effort to try to convince everyone that he wasn't a good player.
    He's a good player but as a starting point guard in the West, he's serviceable at best. Salary aside, he'd be ideal coming off the bench if the Spurs had "that" other point guard. But they don't.

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    I don't think Kyle anderson is some great player, but you also have to blame Popovich for a lot of failures in the playoffs because some players play great when they're on the floor with other great players. When u Anderson always on the floor with West, Diaw, Mills, and Ginobli , that's one garbage ass defensive, slow lineup. Popvoich's subs utions are what hurt him more than anything. Same with West. West looked good as long as he wasn't on the floor at the same time with Mills and Diaw.. That's his fault, but hey, he's a coach with 30+ years of experience, and I'm just a forum poster. What do I know?

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    Parker has fans ?





    poor souls
    Winningest player in NBA history with 1000 games, all-time PG scoring leader in the playoffs, 4x champion (and counting), FMVP, one of only 3 opponents of Lebron to outplay him in a playoff series in his career, etc, etc.

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    Says the guy who doesn't understand stats and punctuates every sentence with an emoji.

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    Winningest player in NBA history with 1000 games, all-time PG scoring leader in the playoffs, 4x champion (and counting), FMVP, one of only 3 opponents of Lebron to outplay him in a playoff series in his career, etc, etc.
    You mean "outplay LeBron for 3 games" or you think he outplayed him in 2007?
    Not sure what series you mean also? 2007 or 2013?

    And what is the "1000 games" for that stat all players with 500 or more qualify. And you know who is the leader there right? Im gonna look now.

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    He's a good player but as a starting point guard in the West, he's serviceable at best. Salary aside, he'd be ideal coming off the bench if the Spurs had "that" other point guard. But they don't.
    He's coming off a down year where he was top ten in the league for assist to turnover ratio and second among all point guards in field goal percentage. I'm having a hard time not making fun of you for characterizing that as "serviceable at best", because shooting a high percentage and not turning the ball over is exactly what you'd want from a starting point guard, and Parker does it better than almost everyone. He had a ty postseason, but he's not the only one who did. Doesn't mean the league is full of guys who can run the Spurs better than he can.

    When you refer to "that" other point guard, you're talking about a skillset possessed by maybe three guys in the entire league. The Spurs haven't had a point guard like that as long as I've been rooting for them.

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    He's coming off a down year where he was top ten in the league for assist to turnover ratio and second among all point guards in field goal percentage. I'm having a hard time not making fun of you for characterizing that as "serviceable at best", because shooting a high percentage and not turning the ball over is exactly what you'd want from a starting point guard, and Parker does it better than almost everyone. He had a ty postseason, but he's not the only one who did. Doesn't mean the league is full of guys who can run the Spurs better than he can.

    When you refer to "that" other point guard, you're talking about a skillset possessed by maybe three guys in the entire league. The Spurs haven't had a point guard like that as long as I've been rooting for them.
    I think during a full regular season, his shortcomings get masked by playing a lot of games against bad compe ion. I guess in relation to the entire league, he is better than serviceable. But compared to the teams that the Spurs realistically would need to beat (OKC, GSW, Cleveland, even LAC) for a le, the things he can't do get exposed.

    With the Spurs roster, I don't think they need a PG with the same skillset as the PG for the teams I mentioned above. But they need one with a skillset that at least minimizes the damage those guys can do. I'd trade Parker's shooting percentage and turnover ratio for someone that could play defense and make better passes.

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    I think during a full regular season, his shortcomings get masked by playing a lot of games against bad compe ion. I guess in relation to the entire league, he is better than serviceable. But compared to the teams that the Spurs realistically would need to beat (OKC, GSW, Cleveland, even LAC) for a le, the things he can't do get exposed.

    With the Spurs roster, I don't think they need a PG with the same skillset as the PG for the teams I mentioned above. But they need one with a skillset that at least minimizes the damage those guys can do. I'd trade Parker's shooting percentage and turnover ratio for someone that could play defense and make better passes.
    exactly.

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    People here are unreasonable. What starting PG can stop Westbrook, Curry, Paul, and Irving. There's a reason why those are the top 4 PG. Most are rarely guarded by other PG. Tony's not stopping them and at his age, it's unreasonable to think he's going to match their production. He just needs to be a steady PG that can hit open shots (particularly threes), run a pick n roll or pick n pop, and hussle as best he can on defense. We need the young guys to carry the Spurs past GSW and Cavs. Tony can be competent enough. We don't need him to go circa 2012. Just control the ball and initiate the offense. He didn't lose it for us last year. And anyone that expected him to win it for us last year is dillusional.

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    People here are unreasonable. What starting PG can stop Westbrook, Curry, Paul, and Irving. There's a reason why those are the top 4 PG. Most are rarely guarded by other PG. Tony's not stopping them and at his age, it's unreasonable to think he's going to match their production. He just needs to be a steady PG that can hit open shots (particularly threes), run a pick n roll or pick n pop, and hussle as best he can on defense. We need the young guys to carry the Spurs past GSW and Cavs. Tony can be competent enough. We don't need him to go circa 2012. Just control the ball and initiate the offense. He didn't lose it for us last year. And anyone that expected him to win it for us last year is dillusional.
    Tony has came up short these last 2 playoffs. That's putting it nicely.

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    would be happy if parker had to miss a few games early into the season tbh. i wanna see how the team plays with murray starting/without tony.

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    Tony is this years RJ. Primed to get benched.

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    Tony is this years RJ. Primed to get benched.
    RJ could be benched because Kawhi was ready to step up.

    Murray is too wild and erratic to even merit consideration as a starting PG. While the other option will scare anyone not named SAGirl.

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    Tony has came up short these last 2 playoffs. That's putting it nicely.
    The Spurs came up short. Where was LMA and Kawhi in those games. If you expected 2012 Parker, then you have a point, but you know that 2015 Parker can't be as good as 2012. So he might have missed a few shots in the 4th, but Kawhi and LMA were deferring like they were afraid of the moment.

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    The Spurs came up short. Where was LMA and Kawhi in those games. If you expected 2012 Parker, then you have a point, but you know that 2015 Parker can't be as good as 2012. So he might have missed a few shots in the 4th, but Kawhi and LMA were deferring like they were afraid of the moment.
    Kawhi never alienates from the game plan. Kawhi has the impression Tony can still score. Tony probably does his little french act and talks like he still can. I have never seen Kawhi shoot the last 5 or 7 shots of the game. When that happens, you can blame him. And even then, he still hurks the entire ing game.

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    If I have to watch one more pass up shot, dribble dribble, pass back out from this Fat Headed f*ck, im going to explode.
    If i have to see it, whilst also looking at the Red f*cking Rocket on the bench, then I give up....

    What an insult to Spurs fans

    F*ck Kyle.
    It doesn't make you some freak level bball IQ guy thinking Anderson might be something because "he reads the game so well" or some other wank like that.

    He is garbage.

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    If I have to watch one more pass up shot, dribble dribble, pass back out from this Fat Headed f*ck, im going to explode.
    If i have to see it, whilst also looking at the Red f*cking Rocket on the bench, then I give up....

    What an insult to Spurs fans

    F*ck Kyle.
    It doesn't make you some freak level bball IQ guy thinking Anderson might be something because "he reads the game so well" or some other wank like that.

    He is garbage.
    The worst part is when he dribbles with like 12 seconds to go and can't get anything and then holds the ball long enough to have to shoot. . Like dude, you had 12 ing seconds and you somehow end up with the shot.

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    Kawhi never alienates from the game plan. Kawhi has the impression Tony can still score. Tony probably does his little french act and talks like he still can. I have never seen Kawhi shoot the last 5 or 7 shots of the game. When that happens, you can blame him. And even then, he still hurks the entire ing game.
    I blame him for deferring. LeBron doesn't defer. Curry doesn't defer. He's not in their class until he learns to demand the ball instead of hoping Parker bails him out. He's never taken over a playoff game as the MAN. That's what he needs to do to be a true MVP. I hope he does and stops the whole Beta thing the last 5 minutes of playoff games where teams focus on stopping him. He can't let defenses stop him from trying to impose his will. Even if he fails, I'd like to see him force the issue in the clutch.
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    I blame him for deferring.
    I blame our fat ing PG who doesn't tell the coach he is washed up so he can get benched and we win a big series again.

    Tony has never been a closer.

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    I blame our fat ing PG who doesn't tell the coach he is washed up so he can get benched and we win a big series again.

    Tony has never been a closer.
    only true playoff closers were Manu and Duncan in their primes. Tony was decent in his prime and better than Kawhi has been since this became his team.

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    only true playoff closers were Manu and Duncan in their primes. Tony was decent in his prime and better than Kawhi has been since this became his team.
    It hasn't been his team yet dumbass.

    And no. Tony has never been as good as Kawhi ever. Closing or all around game.

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    It hasn't been his team yet dumbass.

    And no. Tony has never been as good as Kawhi ever. Closing or all around game.
    You should quit before you hurt yourself more.

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    I agree that Parker is partially to blame, but come on, I don't think Kawhi should just get off 100% scot-free. He had 11 points combined in the 4th quarters of games 4-6 against OKC. Yeah, Parker was a piece of for some of that (was it game 5 where he ed us over like 5 possessions in a row? ), but if we're really going to treat Kawhi like a top 5 player in the league, you can't just completely excuse that lack of production down the stretch...especially not with the season on the line in a playoff series.

    We saw some of the same at the end of the LAC series in 2015. In the two 4th quarters of games 6 and 7 that series, Kawhi combined to score 2 points on 1/10 shooting. Again, if we're going to hold Kawhi to a superstar standard (which we should, because he is that good), you can't excuse that sort of performance in the 2 biggest games of the season. Not saying Kawhi deserves all the blame for that series, but to just completely give him a pass for that is ridiculous.

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    I agree that Parker is partially to blame, but come on, I don't think Kawhi should just get off 100% scot-free. He had 11 points combined in the 4th quarters of games 4-6 against OKC. Yeah, Parker was a piece of for some of that (was it game 5 where he ed us over like 5 possessions in a row? ), but if we're really going to treat Kawhi like a top 5 player in the league, you can't just completely excuse that lack of production down the stretch...especially not with the season on the line in a playoff series.

    We saw some of the same at the end of the LAC series in 2015. In the two 4th quarters of games 6 and 7 that series, Kawhi combined to score 2 points on 1/10 shooting. Again, if we're going to hold Kawhi to a superstar standard (which we should, because he is that good), you can't excuse that sort of performance in the 2 biggest games of the season. Not saying Kawhi deserves all the blame for that series, but to just completely give him a pass for that is ridiculous.
    Except he wasn't closer those games. He didn't have the ball in his hands you dumbass.

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