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    Blue Lives Matter


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    Blacks that want to stay in school and conform to society are doing just fine. People are always looking for good employees no matter what color.

    Blacks that want to act like worthless thugs get treated like worthless thugs along with the white trash.
    No we're not doing just fine. I wish you suspected white supremacists would stop speaking for us.

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    It's usually convincing when white guys tell everybody else that racial discrimination is no longer a real problem in our society.

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    It's usually convincing when white guys tell everybody else that racial discrimination is no longer a real problem in our society.
    There is a huge difference between isolated discrimination and a WAR ON BLACKS!

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    No we're not doing just fine. I wish you suspected white supremacists would stop speaking for us.
    Did Mommy cut your allowance? Sounds like your personal problem. Be honest. Is the only reason you aren't doing "just fine" because you are black? There are a lot of others in the world that aren't doing "just fine" that can't victim blame it on being black.

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    It's not as easy to be black as some might assume, in the very least because you have to do an extra song and dance to "prove yourself" to folks like CC. It's absurd to think than any message can speak either for or to "black people" as if it's some monolithic slate.

    No, you don't have a right profile black people or to expect "shape up" before you stop discriminating. No matter how many black people you meet that upset you, you don't get to take it out on the next one. People are individuals, and no one bears the burdens of strangers.

    But no, youcan't act like what happened 150 years ago justifies where they are. The government doesn't owe anyone money for slavery. You don't deserve to get things without earning them.

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    It's usually convincing when white guys tell everybody else that racial discrimination is no longer a real problem in our society.
    I think it still exists, to a certain extent, and always will. But, I've also seen a lot of lies and false narratives in the BLM movement.

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    Justice Department report: Baltimore police routinely violated civil rights

    Baltimore police routinely violated the cons utional rights of residents by conducting unlawful stops and using excessive force, according to the findings of a long-anticipated Justice Department probe to be released Wednesday.

    The practices overwhelmingly affected the city's black residents in low-income neighborhoods, according to the 163-page report. In often scathing language, the report identified systemic problems and cited detailed examples.

    The investigators found that "supervisors have issued explicitly discriminatory orders, such as directing a shift to arrest 'all the black hoodies' in a neighborhood."


    They also found that black residents were more likely to be stopped and searched as pedestrians and drivers even though police were more likely to find illegal guns, illicit drugs and other contraband on white residents.


    Police practices in Baltimore "perpetuate and fuel a mul ude of issues rooted in poverty and race, focusing law enforcement actions on low-income, minority communities" and encourage officers to have "unnecessary, adversarial interactions with community members," the report said.

    http://www.baltimoresun.com/news/mar...809-story.html

    Baltimore police broke Freddy Gray's back, paralyzed and murdered him.

    But the racist cops executing FG is OK with CC, etc because FG was a thug.

    Anybody think a racist Repug DoJ would even bother to investigate?

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    They also found that black residents were more likely to be stopped and searched as pedestrians and drivers even though police were more likely to find illegal guns, illicit drugs and other contraband on white residents.
    I would love to see the footnote and study to back up that claim.

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    But the racist cops executing FG ...
    like I said, lies and false narratives

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    like I said, lies and false narratives
    ... lies and false narratives spew forth from you rightwingnut assholes, denying AGW, denying systemic, ins utional racism.

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    There is a huge difference between isolated discrimination and a WAR ON BLACKS!
    That might appear true to you, but to a black kid in a ghetto who sees plenty of anecdotal evidence about how poorly whites think of him and his neighbors and how little regard there can be at times for black lives (both within his own community and in the interactions of the broader community with his own community), I'm not sure that he'd agree. To him, it may not be a "war" that people have knowingly entered into, but the pervasiveness of ins utional and societal discrimination in vast swaths of American life might seem very much as though there are many who wish he did not even exist, or that he existed in some other place.

    I'm not sure why so many whites recoil at the idea that we still haven't solved racial discrimination.

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    CC: "isolated discrimination"

    just another racist extreme rightwingnut denying widespread, systemic, ins utional racism exists.



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    I'm not sure why so many whites recoil at the idea that we still haven't solved racial discrimination.
    The recoil is because of the bad examples used as examples, e.g. Mike Brown. , some kid was run over the other day at a memorial/protest for that fraud. Oh, and they ran after and shot at the persons car, who probably didn't even see this kid.

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    That might appear true to you, but to a black kid in a ghetto who sees plenty of anecdotal evidence about how poorly whites think of him and his neighbors and how little regard there can be at times for black lives (both within his own community and in the interactions of the broader community with his own community), I'm not sure that he'd agree. To him, it may not be a "war" that people have knowingly entered into, but the pervasiveness of ins utional and societal discrimination in vast swaths of American life might seem very much as though there are many who wish he did not even exist, or that he existed in some other place.
    That's your privileged adult white perspective on what that black ghetto kid must be be thinking. In reality the kid is just thinking where is my daddy.

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    The recoil is because of the bad examples used as examples, e.g. Mike Brown. , some kid was run over the other day at a memorial/protest for that fraud. Oh, and they ran after and shot at the persons car, who probably didn't even see this kid.
    Brown was absolutely typical: Racist white cop cruising a poor black neighborhood to nail knitters for trivial offenses, or no offense at all (Tamir Rice, John Crawford III)


    Same with Sandra Bland, Eric Garner, Trayvon Martin, and those are just the examples that got video'd and/or publicized.


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    That's your privileged adult white perspective on what that black ghetto kid must be be thinking. In reality the kid is just thinking where is my daddy.
    You make that hypocritical statement as if that somehow justifies scorn for the kid.

    "Hey look at that asshole who misses his father. What a leech."

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    Brown was absolutely typical: Racist white cop cruising a poor black neighborhood to nail knitters for trivial offenses, or no offense at all (Tamir Rice, John Crawford III)


    Same with Sandra Bland, Eric Garner, Trayvon Martin, and those are just the examples that got video'd and/or publicized.


    Wow, you just listed every worst example. Why not add Koryn Gaines to your list?

    There are actually good examples out there -- you just didn't list any.

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    That's your privileged adult white perspective on what that black ghetto kid must be be thinking. In reality the kid is just thinking where is my daddy.
    You're right. I've never interacted with anyone with that life perspective.

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    Did Mommy cut your allowance? Sounds like your personal problem. Be honest. Is the only reason you aren't doing "just fine" because you are black? There are a lot of others in the world that aren't doing "just fine" that can't victim blame it on being black.
    as a suspected white supremacist, you know know how the systematic racism works. just because others are fine being victims don't mean i have to accept it.

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    Wow, you just listed every worst example. Why not add Koryn Gaines to your list?

    There are actually good examples out there -- you just didn't list any.
    The ones I listed were all valid, typical. There have been many more in the media.

    Koryn Gaines was guilty of being stupid breaking the law, so she wouldn't be on my list.


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    what a surprise. DOJ finds baltimore pd infested with systematic racism

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    where are the black fathers? oh yea, being victims of systematic racism which sends them to for profit prison for trumped charges

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    You make that hypocritical statement as if that somehow justifies scorn for the kid.

    "Hey look at that asshole who misses his father. What a leech."
    Nothing hypocritical about what I said and there's no judgement on the kid either but go on believing children in ghetto's are spending their time contemplating the "pervasiveness of ins utional and societal discrimination in vast swaths of American life" if it makes you feel better.

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    Nothing hypocritical about what I said and there's no judgement on the kid either but go on believing children in ghetto's are spending their time contemplating the "pervasiveness of ins utional and societal discrimination in vast swaths of American life" if it makes you feel better.
    I'm pretty sure I'm in a better position to speak about that than you are. But that said, I don't disagree that they are constantly looking at it from this philosophical angle. But if you don't think black people don't often feel screwed by the system, you're massively out of touch. While I think it's overstated, there's a reason why these thoughts are so constantly spoken, despite differences in class and other demographic status.

    And yes, it's hypocritical for you to tell someone else they don't know what others are thinking and then to assert that you yourself do.

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