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    Donald Trump: "The system is rigged against me!"

    Some Republicans: "He's absolutely right!"

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    Young Black Males: "The system is rigged against me."

    Some Republicans: "Quit acting like a victim, thug."

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    I would love to see the footnote and study to back up that claim.
    https://www.justice.gov/opa/file/883366/download

    The database we created from hard copy stop reports reveals that BPD officers search African Americans at disproportionate rates. During pedestrian stops, officers searched 13 percent of African Americans compared to only 9.5 percent of other people—making African Americans 37 percent more likely to be searched when stopped than other residents. Similarly, officers were 23 percent more likely to search African Americans during vehicle stops. These differences are significant beyond conventional levels of statistical significance.


    Justice Department experts found that racial disparities in search rates persisted after using regression techniques to control for relevant variables, including the area in which a stop occurred and the assignment and experience level of the officers involved.


    These racial disparities suggest that BPD’s search practices discriminate against African Americans. Search rate differences do not alone establish disproportionate impact based on race, however, because it is possible that differential search rates are driven by race-neutral explanations. For that reason, the best measure of racial patterns in searches is a comparison of the rates at which officers find contraband during searches, or “hit rates.” See, e.g., John Knowles, Nicola Persico & Petra Todd, Racial Bias in Motor Vehicle Searches: Theory and Evidence, 109 JOURNAL OF POLITICALECONOMY 203 (2001). A lower hit rate for searches of a particular demographic group is evidence that officers apply a lower threshold of su ion when deciding to search members of that group compared to others.


    To the extent that BPD collects hit rate data, it suggests that officers’ search decisions are biased against African Americans. Indeed, BPD’s data on all stops from 2010–2015 shows that searches of African Americans have significantly lower hit rates than other searches. During vehicles tops, BPD officers reported finding some type of contraband less than half as often when searching African Americans—in only 3.9 percent of searches of African Americans, compared to 8.5 percent of other searches. Search hit rates during pedestrian stops also exhibited large disparities, with officers finding contraband in only 2.6 percent of African American searches compared to 3.9 percent for other searches—a 50 percent difference. These results are statistically significant.

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    61 This analysis is based on all 3,863 searches that BPD recorded for pedestrian stops and 1,495 searches recorded forvehicle stops from 2010–2015. As discussed above, these data likely fail to capture a significant number of searches thatBPD officers actually conducted during this period. The hit rates from these searches are nonetheless indicative of bias,however, because there is no reason to believe that there are systematic differences in how BPD records searchoutcomes based on the race of the person searched. In other words, BPD officers sometimes fail to record theirsearches at all. But when searches are recorded, there is no indication that officers change how they record the fruits ofthe search based on the race of the person searched. Nor does it appear that officers disproportionately record searches

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    I'm pretty sure I'm in a better position to speak about that than you are. But that said, I don't disagree that they are constantly looking at it from this philosophical angle. But if you don't think black people don't often feel screwed by the system, you're massively out of touch. While I think it's overstated, there's a reason why these thoughts are so constantly spoken, despite differences in class and other demographic status.
    This is why I don't try to have any meaningful conversations on this forum. You just made up that was never said. I don't think black people feel screwed by the system, I think they ARE screwed by the system. The reasons are too complex to discuss in a few sentences so I won't bother challenging the "PoPo is bad, white people bad" routine. Carry on.

    And yes, it's hypocritical for you to tell someone else they don't know what others are thinking and then to assert that you yourself do.
    You're right, it's hypocritical of me to challenge the idea that a 7 year old black child in the ghetto doesn't look at the world exactly the same as a Harvard professor of black studies...my bad. Carry on.

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    Donald Trump: "The system is rigged against me!"

    Some Republicans: "He's absolutely right!"

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    Young Black Males: "The system is rigged against me."

    Some Republicans: "Quit acting like a victim, thug."

    I think he says that as a nod to Bernie supporters.

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    American society is not at war with blacks you ing idiot.
    Baltimore and Ferguson police supervisors instructed their force to target black people. You're an ignorant , pedofattie.

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    Baltimore and Ferguson police supervisors instructed their force to target black people. You're an ignorant , pedofattie.

    If you stop a random person in those areas, they're more likely to be black, tbh. See demographics

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    If you stop a random person in those areas, they're more likely to be black, tbh. See demographics
    I bet the racist cops concentrate on "those areas". Ferguson cops and municipality were found by DoJ to concentrate on arresting, ticketing blacks specifically to finance city operations.
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    If you stop a random person in those areas, they're more likely to be black, tbh. See demographics
    I didn't say that the supervisors said to arrest more people in a particular area now did I?

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    #rekt

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    Darwin Award

    Oh, and no one was shooting at the protesters. The protesters were trying to shoot the driver.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/us-us...-idUSKCN10L0NZ
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    I didn't say that the supervisors said to arrest more people in a particular area now did I?
    Well, you mentioned Baltimore and Ferguson. Did you mean somewhere else?

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    Baltimore cops stopped an innocent mid-50s black man 30 times in less than 4 years

    African Americans accounted for 95 percent of the 410 individuals stopped at least ten times by BPD officers from 2010–2015. During this period, BPD stopped 34 African Americans at least 20 times and seven other African Americans at least 30 times.

    No person of any other race was stopped more than 12 times. One African-American man in his mid-fifties was stopped 30 times in less than four years.

    The only reasons provided for these stops were officers’ su ion that the man was “loitering” or “trespassing,” or as part of a “CDS investigation.”

    On at least 15 occasions, officers detained the man while they checked to see if he had outstanding warrants.

    Despite these repeated intrusions, none of the 30 stops resulted in a citation or criminal charge.

    http://www.vox.com/2016/8/10/1241843...ice-department

    CC, our resident War on Blacks denier



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    Well, you mentioned Baltimore and Ferguson. Did you mean somewhere else?
    Feigned stupidity sits well on you.

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    Feigned stupidity sits well on you.
    Baltimore and Ferguson police supervisors instructed their force to target black people. You're an ignorant , pedofattie.

    The two places you mentioned are predominantly black. What am I missing?

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    This is why I don't try to have any meaningful conversations on this forum. You just made up that was never said. I don't think black people feel screwed by the system, I think they ARE screwed by the system. The reasons are too complex to discuss in a few sentences so I won't bother challenging the "PoPo is bad, white people bad" routine. Carry on.
    The reason why you can't have a meaningful discussion is because you apparently can't go two posts in a row without eviscerating you're own point. You asserted that blacks in the ghetto didn't think about the high-philosophical aspects of race discrimination and instead focused on things like "Where's my daddy?" I said that I agree that they aren't writing Pulitzer-winning essays in their heads about the issue but that they do feel like they are being screwed by the system. That screwing includes what FWD said, that they see many examples of how no one seems to care about their safety, how people seem to ignore them at best and hate them at worst. How they have to try extra hard just of people will considering them normal humans. It's not going to be just "Where's my daddy?" any more than a white kid would just think, "I know where my dad is".

    You're right, it's hypocritical of me to challenge the idea that a 7 year old black child in the ghetto doesn't look at the world exactly the same as a Harvard professor of black studies...my bad. Carry on.
    It's hypocritical to assert you know what someone is thinking right after chastising someone else for doing that. Now, you're just trying to complicate this. Black people aren't geneous. We don't all think the same, and we don't all have the same experiences. I don't worry about being stuck in a poverty cycle like folks in the ghetto might. But I do worry about being confronted by a man in plain clothes who's carrying a gun and not knowing whether it's a robber or an off-duty cop. I worry that if I'm walking in my neighborhood at night that people will consider me a threat even though I've been there longer than almost everyone else has.

    Black people more successful than people might worry about their work not being published as frequently or clients being warded off from their services or that people are going to think they are stealing of trespassing in their own cars or houses. The way the anxiety of many black people manifests itself definitely depends on the socioeconomic class they're in. But it has the same root cause, which is just a general feeling of alienation from their homeland by people who think it's time to "get tough" on them and force them to "shape up" in order to be considered part of society.

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