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    I don't care if he helps the Spurs or not. He is one of my favorite players of all time and it will be a privilege to watch him for one more year.

    Losing Duncan and Ginobili all in one offseason would have been devestating, not only to the fanbase but also to the team chemistry.

    Besides, who gives a about what Antonio Daniels says? The best thing he ever did in San Antonio was making the front-cover of the Jim's menu.

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    And what about 30mil for Gasol? Why that's good???

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    I don't care if he helps the Spurs or not. He is one of my favorite players of all time and it will be a privilege to watch him for one more year.

    Losing Duncan and Ginobili all in one offseason would have been devestating, not only to the fanbase but also to the team chemistry.

    Besides, who gives a about what Antonio Daniels says? The best thing he ever did in San Antonio was making the front-cover of the Jim's menu.
    Tim retiring stings enough Damn... Thanks for reminding me.

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    Manu staying another year will help transition the team without TD and he deserves his own send-off/retirement without being overshadowed by TD.

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    says the guy who served as a Kobe traffic cone for us until we finally got rid of him and got Manu

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    David, AJ and AD... having spent the last 14 years in the big 3 era it's sometimes how hard to remember how religious the Spurs culture once was...

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    Not bad take, i just disagree. Their take is that Manu might eat up minutes that could go to younger players. Yet they also say that the Spurs need to keep manu rested, so that also means they still consider him someone usefull.

    Bottomline, Pop and the FO considers that Parker/Leonard/Aldridge leadership is not there yet and prefer Manu to be in that role off the court at least for now.

    I really think that the Net Plus Manu has is his leadership and winning experience. He is by now the winningest player on the team, having won not only in the NBA but also at continental and world level. And an example of behaviour, respect, work ethic and the Spurs culture. That is always needed, but this year is most important because youŽll have 2 upcoming leaders in formation (Leonard and Aldridge) and a lot of young players that aim to continue our road to success.
    I agree with you. I teased ElNono with Kyle but I was joking. In reality, the concern is Kawhi and LMA. There is a vac at the top, LMA bc he was a newcomer and Kawhi bc he's too reserved. The past teams were still a reflection of the chemistry and culture established by Tim, even when he was taking a step back back in role. Having lost Tim, the new guys have yet to take over. At least Manu helps out, specially in the tough times, when teams get challenged and tested. I really think Manu is back to help them out, not to attempt to be the Manu of old.

    Daniels had a different perspective looking strictly at basketball.

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    I'm sure it helps every bench player (and every new player including Pau) with the possible exception of Simmons because Manu's presence really eats into his minutes in a key year for him. That said, for leadership alone, Manu is a net positive. Your lockeroom can't lose Timmy and Manu in the same year. They were the two real leaders of the team. (Kawhi is too silent, LMA too quirky to take that mantle last year....maybe this one?)
    Agree completely with this too. The guy affected the most is Simmons. I still think Spurs will try to find a way to discover what they have in him before he hits FA. Agree with you too on leadership from Kawhi and LMA.

    Frankly I think the guy who has a real leadership personality is Kyle, part of the reason he wins games aside from his own talent, is how he brings everyone together. It's one of the big intangibles he has and something that has been remarked by Spurs personnel too. He's just too young himself though and trying to break through in the league himself to have a kind of role like that. But guys are who they are, and when the going gets tough, we shall see some guys grow hopefully.

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    says the guy who served as a Kobe traffic cone for us until we finally got rid of him and got Manu
    this. talk about losers... Spurs immediately got better once he was gone.

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    My favorite Manu pass is the one to Oberto (#5) - just realize how much Blair must miss Manu.

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    I don't care if he helps the Spurs or not. He is one of my favorite players of all time and it will be a privilege to watch him for one more year.

    Losing Duncan and Ginobili all in one offseason would have been devestating, not only to the fanbase but also to the team chemistry.

    Besides, who gives a about what Antonio Daniels says? The best thing he ever did in San Antonio was making the front-cover of the Jim's menu.
    This. I'm glad the Spurs paid the man.

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    Manu is essentially a playing coach of the Spurs.....

    but in today's NBA, leadership and maturity is sorely lacking

    so, Manu's value is priceless!

    If i owned the Spurs, I would do the same, and beg Duncan to have a front office job,too and be visible, perhaps even coach a little....

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    Agree completely with this too. The guy affected the most is Simmons. I still think Spurs will try to find a way to discover what they have in him before he hits FA. Agree with you too on leadership from Kawhi and LMA. Frankly I think the guy who has a real leadership personality is Kyle, part of the reason he wins games aside from his own talent, is how he brings everyone together. It's one of the big intangibles he has and something that has been remarked by Spurs personnel too. He's just too young himself though and trying to break through in the league himself to have a kind of role like that. But guys are who they are, and when the going gets tough, we shall see some guys grow hopefully.

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    Manure is beyond finished. Should have really retired in 2013
    Spurs lose first round in 2014 w/o Manu.

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    Spurs lose first round in 2014 w/o Manu.
    Negatory. Ferrari takes over and we win. Manu has been unnecessary since 2011

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    Spurs lose first round in 2014 w/o Manu.
    Thunder game 6, that shot was huge as well. His Dunk over Bosh and three as well after, he had a great finals in 2014. He redeemed himself.

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    Negatory. Ferrari takes over and we win. Manu has been unnecessary since 2011
    Pinto was trash that year.

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    and the fans in rows 1-5...

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    this. talk about losers... Spurs immediately got better once he was gone.
    Of course he was a ing traffic cone, he isn't/wasn't a SG!!!!

    He (like David West this season) was destined to fail being asked to guard players that are 2" - 4" taller than him. He actually became a pretty good back up PG later on after leaving SA. Led the league in AST/TO ratio a few times with the Sonics and Wizards, I believe.

    Anyway, jury is out on whether this is true or not. Manu is at the age, like Timmy this last season, where his body could just physically give out at a moments notice. And hidden under Tony's abhorrent/piss poor perrfomances the past two post seasons lays that fact that Manu has had late season dives in production too.

    Pop would be smart in treating Manu like Robert Horry or how Vince Carter was used this last season in Memphis. Use him sparingly (can't believe I'm typing this about a $14 million dollar player) until February- March then slowly rampant up his minutes come playoff time. No use in having play well early to juwt fade out and be outplayed by the Dion Waiters' of the league.

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    Thunder game 6, that shot was huge as well. His Dunk over Bosh and three as well after, he had a great finals in 2014. He redeemed himself.
    He was there everything we needed him that year

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    Negatory. Ferrari takes over and we win. Manu has been unnecessary since 2011

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    Manu should play something like 40 games of regular season......preservation......hmmmm

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    Negatory. Ferrari takes over and we win. Manu has been unnecessary since 2011
    Lol


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    Of course he was a ing traffic cone, he isn't/wasn't a SG!!!!

    He (like David West this season) was destined to fail being asked to guard players that are 2" - 4" taller than him. He actually became a pretty good back up PG later on after leaving SA. Led the league in AST/TO ratio a few times with the Sonics and Wizards, I believe.

    Anyway, jury is out on whether this is true or not. Manu is at the age, like Timmy this last season, where his body could just physically give out at a moments notice. And hidden under Tony's abhorrent/piss poor perrfomances the past two post seasons lays that fact that Manu has had late season dives in production too.

    Pop would be smart in treating Manu like Robert Horry or how Vince Carter was used this last season in Memphis. Use him sparingly (can't believe I'm typing this about a $14 million dollar player) until February- March then slowly rampant up his minutes come playoff time. No use in having play well early to juwt fade out and be outplayed by the Dion Waiters' of the league.
    So AD has an excuse because he was 2 inches shorter, but has the same TD in his prime and #50 behind him that supposedly is a knock on Manu (or even Tony to an extent)? This is why people need to think a little bit and get their stories straight before posting. The Spurs move on from this supposedly "more established" NBA player to basically two international rooks with limited to no NBA experience, and suddenly built one of the best trios in NBA history. AD just either wasn't that good or simply didn't understand the huge opportunity that was in front of him. At any rate, in hindsight, the Spurs absolutely did the right thing in moving on from him.

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    So AD has an excuse because he was 2 inches shorter, but has the same TD in his prime and #50 behind him that supposedly is a knock on Manu (or even Tony to an extent)? This is why people need to think a little bit and get their stories straight before posting. The Spurs move on from this supposedly "more established" NBA player to basically two international rooks with limited to no NBA experience, and suddenly built one of the best trios in NBA history. AD just either wasn't that good or simply didn't understand the huge opportunity that was in front of him. At any rate, in hindsight, the Spurs absolutely did the right thing in moving on from him.
    Are really going to compare Antonio Daniels to Manu Ginobili and Tony Parker, man? Daniels was never a defensive stopper and was at a huge disadvantage going against the BEST SG IN THE LEAGUE in Kobe Bryant. That was a complete mismatch on both ends and Kobe utterly destroyed him. And like I said, him being much smaller than Kobe - and forced to start cause of the Anderson injury - only exacerbated the problem.

    Daniels was a reclamation project and never lived up to his high selection (I believe #4 in '97), but I would never claim that the Spurs should have kept him in spite Ginobili or Parker. Yet, that doesn't change the fact that he was put in a position to complete fail trying to play SG. He rarely did that after his time in SA and was either a 2nd or 3rd PG the remaining years of his career.

    The '01 and '02 Spurs were poorly constructed to deal with the combined size, athleticism and skill of prime Shaquille O'Neal and (near prime) Kobe Bryant. Too many small or old players on the perimeter to even come close to slowing down Kobe.

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