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  1. 08-09-2016 #76
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    Quote Originally Posted by KobeOwnsDuncan
    Kobe is obviously a first option. He has won as one. Robinson has not. He is option B.
    I've shown you he hasn't. So they were either both 1as or both 1bs.
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  2. 08-09-2016 #77
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    Quote Originally Posted by ambchang
    I've shown you he hasn't. So they were either both 1as or both 1bs.
    I have shown you he has. Being the go to guy, the first option, Kobe has won.
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  3. 08-09-2016 #78
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    Quote Originally Posted by KobeOwnsDuncan
    I have shown you he has. Being the go to guy, the first option, Kobe has won.
    Yet didn't lead in his team in any advanced stats.
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  4. 08-09-2016 #79
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    Quote Originally Posted by ambchang
    Yet didn't lead in his team in any advanced stats.
    Did he win as the go to guy? Yes he did. His usage rate, being the most utilized on the team. He won. And yes, he led in win shares. In the playoffs...
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  5. 08-09-2016 #80
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    Quote Originally Posted by ambchang
    Yet didn't lead in his team in any advanced stats.
    I'll put this here...Kobe led the Lakers in OBPM, BPM, and VORP in 2002-2003, and led his team in OBPM in 2008-2009, and 2009-2010...
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  6. 08-10-2016 #81
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    Quote Originally Posted by KobeOwnsDuncan
    Did he win as the go to guy? Yes he did. His usage rate, being the most utilized on the team. He won. And yes, he led in win shares. In the playoffs...
    So drexler was a 1A with the rockets?
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  7. 08-10-2016 #82
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    Quote Originally Posted by KobeOwnsDuncan
    I'll put this here...Kobe led the Lakers in OBPM, BPM, and VORP in 2002-2003, and led his team in OBPM in 2008-2009, and 2009-2010...
    OBPM was only one part. Not BPM. Cherry picking.

    And on 03. Did the lakers win 03?

    Was chandler 1a because he led the Mavs in dbpm in 11? You Are being obtuse.
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  8. 08-10-2016 #83
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    Quote Originally Posted by ambchang
    OBPM was only one part. Not BPM. Cherry picking.

    And on 03. Did the lakers win 03?

    Was chandler 1a because he led the Mavs in dbpm in 11? You Are being obtuse.
    You said he never led in ANY advanced stats. I showed you he did. You lose..
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  9. 08-10-2016 #84
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    Quote Originally Posted by KobeOwnsDuncan
    You said he never led in ANY advanced stats. I showed you he did. You lose..
    The boundaries were already drawn when I listed out the advanced stats.

    You are the first person to claim victory by acting like a re . Congrats.
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  10. 08-10-2016 #85
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    Quote Originally Posted by KobeOwnsDuncan
    Kobe has won as the first option. Robinson got his pushed in when it counted...
    Kobe won cos Ray Allen shot even sh***ier than him. It was AlphaPau making the game winner, too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thread
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    Arn?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spurtacular
    Kobe won cos Ray Allen shot even sh***ier than him. It was AlphaPau making the game winner, too.
    Pau couldn't win a single playoff game till Kobe held his hand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Thread
    Pau couldn't win a single playoff game till Kobe held his hand.
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    Quote Originally Posted by z0sa
    Yeah. It is only spoiled fans who think a player can't be a 1a just because he couldn't win a le all by his freaking self.
    Then again, some spoiled fans pretend Kobe was a 1A just b/c he was on some teams that ringed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spurtacular
    Kobe won cos Ray Allen shot even sh***ier than him. It was AlphaPau making the game winner, too.
    Duncan won because of a short season
    Duncan won because of the Sun's suspension
    Duncan won because Dirk got hurt
    Duncan won because he missed 7 free throws in a row in a crucial game 5 and Ginobli and Horry bailed him out
    Duncan shot ty against Big Z and Anderson ing Varejo
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  16. 08-13-2016 #91
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    Quote Originally Posted by KobeOwnsDuncan
    Duncan won because of a short season
    He swept Shaq and the supporting cast, which included role player Kobe, that season.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spurtacular
    He swept Shaq and the supporting cast, which included role player Kobe, that season.
    Duncan won because of a short season.

    facing an 8 seed in the finals
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    Quote Originally Posted by KobeOwnsDuncan
    Duncan won because of a short season.

    facing an 8 seed in the finals
    99 Knicks were better than 09 Magic, tbh.

    But that's in the second place. If he swept Shaq's sorry ass, you have no room to speak in the first place.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Spurtacular
    99 Knicks were better than 09 Magic, tbh.

    But that's in the second place. If he swept Shaq's sorry ass, you have no room to speak in the first place.
    I guess you don't remember Ewing had a torn achilles and didn't even play in the finals crofl
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    Quote Originally Posted by KobeOwnsDuncan
    I guess you don't remember Ewing had a torn achilles and didn't even play in the finals crofl
    And it was debated whether the Knicks were better w/o him, tbh. Dude was a choker. But that's really not the point. 99 Knicks w/o Ewing > Howard's Magic

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  21. 08-13-2016 #96
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    Quote Originally Posted by KobeOwnsDuncan
    Duncan won because of a short season
    Duncan won because of the Sun's suspension
    Duncan won because Dirk got hurt
    Duncan won because he missed 7 free throws in a row in a crucial game 5 and Ginobli and Horry bailed him out
    Duncan shot ty against Big Z and Anderson ing Varejo
    Do you really want to play this game?

    Kobe got swept, even in a shortened season
    6-24
    Got outplayed by Austin croschere, Kerry kitties, rip Hamilton, and Allen iverson I the finals
    Only counterpart he outplayed was hedo
    Got utterly dominated by Paul Pierce in both finals
    Won purely because of MVPau and shaq
    Got bailed out by fisher, horry, and artest.
    Missed playoffs once MVPau is gone
    Got kicked in the nuts by Nash, twice.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ambchang
    Do you really want to play this game?

    Kobe got swept, even in a shortened season
    6-24
    Got outplayed by Austin croschere, Kerry kitties, rip Hamilton, and Allen iverson I the finals
    Only counterpart he outplayed was hedo
    Got utterly dominated by Paul Pierce in both finals
    Won purely because of MVPau and shaq
    Got bailed out by fisher, horry, and artest.
    Missed playoffs once MVPau is gone
    Got kicked in the nuts by Nash, twice.
    Never lost to an 8th seed as the top seed while fans blaming Manu being injured as the reason
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  23. 08-13-2016 #98
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    Quote Originally Posted by KobeOwnsDuncan
    Never lost to an 8th seed as the top seed while fans blaming Manu being injured as the reason
    Missed playoffs FOUR times.
    Only laker in history to miss b2b2b playoffs.
    Led lakers to worst record (multiple times as well)
    Killed the owner.
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    Quote Originally Posted by KobeOwnsDuncan
    Never lost to an 8th seed, and never lost to Puerto Rico
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    Doing repeats now?
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