The first premise is garbage, it starts with an absolute. Offense only players always being divisive. That's false. Reggie Miller was divisive? Ray Allen was divisive? Tracy McGrady was divisive? Dennis Scott was divisive? Allen Houston was divisive?
And as far as score-first point guards being a particularly distrusted archetype, that depends on their skill level relative to the rest of the team, and their ability to function within a winning culture. Tony Parker existed for years as the second or third option within a winning culture deferring to superior offensive players until it was his turn. Whereas Russell Westbrook could not defer adequately to a superior offensive player in Durant.
Both (Parker/Irving) are scoring PGs, but their talents differ. I'd even say that Irving is on an entirely different level at this age range, and projects to be the far better player lifetime. One is a far superior Iso player, whereas the other does most damage with the assistance of a pick and roll situation. One is a career abysmal shooter from 3, whereas the other routinely shoots between 35%-40% (aside from one year). One is an excellent FT shooter, the other took a while to arrive at good. One has to get into a particular range to be consistently effective, whereas the other can get the job done from anywhere. So while they have a similar label, they play differently, and one is in a different realm talent-wise.
Historically, the PG's primary role is ball distribution. In an ever evolving game, fans are starting to grasp with the reality that this is no longer a necessity. Especially, when the role is being provided for elsewhere in the lineup. And that's why I am of the opinion that all scoring point guards (or undersized SG's, which often are the same thing) need to be coupled with tall, lengthy, fairly defensive minded, ball distributive, court-stretching combo guard/SF's.
The primary aggravation with Parker is with his declining ability, and his skillset in this changed format in terms of offensive hierarchy. Evidenced by Patty's more natural fit as a pure shooter with the SL core offensive centerpieces, comparatively to Parker (Although he has improved his long distance shooting). Irving being a pure scorer is a necessity with Cleveland whether it was pre-Bron or with Bron. As is a obvious lack of pure scoring on that roster, especially in regards to shot creation outside of LBJ on an elite level. Love was downright laughable at times.
Chalmers & Bosh "making Parker their " =
2013 Finals:
Parker: 16/6/2 on 41%
Chalmers: 11/3/2 on 39%
Bosh: 12/9/2 on 46%
2014 Finals:
Parker: 18/5/0 on 48%
Chalmers: 4/3/1 on 33%
Bosh: 14/5/1 on 55%
You want to argue series or games? I'll take on the challenge for both. Or if you want to shift goalposts to argue every argument, go for it. I'll try to follow the goalposts.
Hahaha Kyrie is garbage. He literally couldn't lead his team to 35 wins in the Eastern Conference.
2012: 21-45
2013: 24-58
2014: 33-49
Dude is a chucker who shoots 45% and doesn't pass a whole lot either. The dude has never even led his team in assists in a single playoff series.
If you think that a 19-21 year old Parker could've, then someone must've ed your coffee.
One of the best posts I've ever read on here oml
Who gave this man the nuke codes?before manure intervened MVParker had wrapped up the a ring in 2013 for the spurs. his play in game 1, and clutch shots in 6 had the le before manure and kiwi choked of course. gotta respect the head of the snake
Nothing but fax here, folks
Your comment runs in direct contrast to the facts and actual situation. Inaccurate statements like that are exactly why no one takes y'all Kawhi fanboys serious.
Keyword is that Manu might have accepted more readily, not that Tony would be completely against the idea. He did come off the bench during George Hill's last season in San Antonio, after all.
might: used in auxiliary function to express permission, liberty, probability, possibility in the past
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Glad someone appreciated that hidden gem
Killa kyrie was put on one of the worst run rosters in sports on a team that just set the record for most consecutive losses. even LeKing didn't get that sorry ass organization to the playoffs for first two years. h
drafting dion waters
drafting tony bennet
Killa Kyrie coming into his prime like MVParker began to at the same age.
If not for manure ging it up in 06 and 13, Tony would have 6 rings.
Killa kyrie was put on one of the worst run rosters in sports on a team that just set the record for most consecutive losses. even LeKing didn't get that sorry ass organization to the playoffs for first two years. h
drafting dion waters
drafting tony bennet
Killa Kyrie coming into his prime like MVParker began to at the same age.
If not for manure ging it up in 06 and 13, Tony would have 6 rings.
That's a negative 83 right?
Team Killa Kyrie did nothing to improve the Cavs despite being crowned their franchise player the moment he arrived. He played zero defense, made nobody better, routinely threw his teammates under the bus to the media without accepting any blame, and was a whiny in general. He was a major contributor to the dysfunction.Killa kyrie was put on one of the worst run rosters in sports on a team that just set the record for most consecutive losses. even LeKing didn't get that sorry ass organization to the playoffs for first two years. h
drafting dion waters
drafting tony bennet
Killa Kyrie coming into his prime like MVParker began to at the same age.
If not for manure ging it up in 06 and 13, Tony would have 6 rings.
That is extremely generous.
Yeah, he's way fatter than that.
When I read the le I was really hoping this was about Kyle 13 minute mile Anderson
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