Some Basic observation about Garino for the folks that missed his games.

[apalisoc_9]

The fact that you can almost copy and paste this to describe Harrison Barnes says something.

Harrison barnes isba good defender? When the did that happen

[kobyz]

[Seventyniner]

The writeup sounds like a before-his-prime Bruce Bowen. Though I'm not actually sure that kind of player can be useful in today's NBA.

[buttsR4rebounding]

I think Pop is looking for perimeter defenders to match up to GS as best as possible. If he plays defense as described and can hit the corner 3 to provide spacing for the pound-the- -out-of-paint offense he will make a positive contribution. Simmons is the one most likely to get cut if Garino plays well.

[look_at_g_shred]

Thanks for a great write-up. I'm torn between him and Forbes. On one hand you have a guy in Forbes who can provide instant offense off the bench with average at best defense, and then Garino who will supply tough defense. We saw last year that even with great defense, Offense was what we lacked. It be great to have both.

[Canyonero]

Offense+

- He seems to be confident with his Three point shooting ability

Offense-

- His cofidence in the three point shot varries depending on where he is.



Ok....

[kaji157]

Garino has shown some good things and i do not entirely agree with apo.

On the plus side i would say he is a very good positional player, both on offense and defense, that is a huge, HUGE plus for our team as we rely a lot on positioning and outsmarting our opponents.
On defense he does very well both on and off the ball, and on offense he is always in the right place and is smart for cuts inside, even some penetrations off a curl.
He is clearly not a shot creator, nor for himself or others, but is not an unwilling passer or a bad decision maker. The problem in argentina is that if the ball was in his hands to make a decision, is because the defense was already ahead of the offense in that play.
He has a pretty good 3pt shot that i see no problem translating to the NBA distance, has a slow release but nothing out of the ordinary, and he has a good one pump-shot for when defenses closes on him.
Also the main problem for him not being a shot creator is his iffy dribling, yet Green has showed that you don´t need to be elite in that aspect to succeed in the Spurs.

Nothing flashy, for me is the usual spurs blue collar guy, and i think he will be in front of Anderson and Simmons very soon.

[ElNono]

His man defense is good, but he's going to foul a lot until he earns the refs respect. That's pretty normal with new players. He has a long way to go to earn a spot in the NBA, but the tools are there.

[MaNu4Tres]

Thanks for a great write-up. I'm torn between him and Forbes. On one hand you have a guy in Forbes who can provide instant offense off the bench with average at best defense, and then Garino who will supply tough defense. We saw last year that even with great defense, Offense was what we lacked. It be great to have both.

There's nothing to be torn about. Forbes or Garino won't be relevant to the Spurs next year. Austin Spurs, yes. San Antonio Spurs, no. Spurs are stacked in the backcourt and at the wing already enough. If either makes the team, which I doubt will happen, they'll be buried on the bench in a suit or in Austin.

[cutewizard]

Thanks for a great write-up. I'm torn between him and Forbes. On one hand you have a guy in Forbes who can provide instant offense off the bench with average at best defense, and then Garino who will supply tough defense. We saw last year that even with great defense, Offense was what we lacked. It be great to have both.

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We already have superior offense with Lamarcus, Gasol, Kawhi, Tony, Mills, and Lee

we could do with more defence......

[RD2191]

There's nothing to be torn about. Forbes or Garino won't be relevant to the Spurs next year. Austin Spurs, yes. San Antonio Spurs, no. Spurs are stacked in the backcourt and at the wing already enough. If either makes the team, which I doubt will happen, they'll be buried on the bench in a suit or in Austin.

Our backcourt is trash. Not sure why you mean by stacked. And depth behind Kawhi is still iffy at best.

[MaNu4Tres]

Our backcourt is trash. Not sure why you mean by stacked. And depth behind Kawhi is still iffy at best.

PG: Parker, Mills, Murray
SG: Green, Manu, Simmons
SF: Kawhi, Anderson, Bertans .. There's a reason why Forbes and Garino were undrafted. There's a reason why no team offered them full guaranteed deals (like GPII) . Those two players are not better than any of those 9 players ahead of them. So yes, they'd be buried on the bench in a suit or in Austin.

[dabom]

There's nothing to be torn about. Forbes or Garino won't be relevant to the Spurs next year. Austin Spurs, yes. San Antonio Spurs, no. Spurs are stacked in the backcourt and at the wing already enough. If either makes the team, which I doubt will happen, they'll be buried on the bench in a suit or in Austin.

I'm gonna have to bookmark you dude. Top poster, but I disagree on Garino not making the team.

[dabom]

PG: Parker, Mills, Murray
SG: Green, Manu, Simmons
SF: Kawhi, Anderson, Bertans .. There's a reason why Forbes and Garino were undrafted. There's a reason why no team offered them full guaranteed deals (like GPII) . Those two players are not better than any of those 9 players ahead of them. So yes, they'd be buried on the bench in a suit or in Austin.

If the playoffs started today, I'd pick Garino over fathead for backup Kawhi duties.

[MaNu4Tres]

I'm gonna have to bookmark you dude. Top poster, but I disagree on Garino not making the team.

I think all three players signed those deals as signing bonuses to agree to go to Austin if they don't get picked up at the end of training camp (which likely won't happen). It was 100K guarantee for Garino, 75K for Forbes and Arci.

Go ahead and bookmark me, I said the same thing about Cotton 2 years ago.

[dabom]

I think all three players signed those deals as signing bonuses to agree to go to Austin if they don't get picked up at the end of training camp (which likely won't happen). It was 100K guarantee for Garino, 75K for Forbes and Arci.

Go ahead and bookmark me, I said the same thing about Cotton 2 years ago.

I never thought cotton would make the team either. I also don't have a lot of bump-able material.

He's gonna make the team by the end of the year.

[apalisoc_9]

Offense+

- He seems to be confident with his Three point shooting ability

Offense-

- His cofidence in the three point shot varries depending on where he is.



Ok....

Yeah hes a cobfident three point shooter...except at the top of the key...hebdoesbt like those.

[MaNu4Tres]

If the playoffs started today, I'd pick Garino over fathead for backup Kawhi duties.

Anderson, Bertans and Simmons are better than Garino.

[dabom]

Fathead and Simmons nah. Never.

[elemento]

Sons , if you're expecting a new Manu you'll be highly disappointed. The boy is a project to be a decent 3 and D role player, nothing more than that. They won't be another special player like Manu in Argentina ever again.

[I. Hustle]

Sons , if you're expecting a new Manu you'll be highly disappointed. The boy is a project to be a decent 3 and D role player, nothing more than that. They won't be another special player like Manu in Argentina ever again.

I haz a sad

[kuato]

Hire Campazzo!!

[SAGirl]

Garino has shown some good things and i do not entirely agree with apo.

On the plus side i would say he is a very good positional player, both on offense and defense, that is a huge, HUGE plus for our team as we rely a lot on positioning and outsmarting our opponents.
On defense he does very well both on and off the ball, and on offense he is always in the right place and is smart for cuts inside, even some penetrations off a curl.
He is clearly not a shot creator, nor for himself or others, but is not an unwilling passer or a bad decision maker. The problem in argentina is that if the ball was in his hands to make a decision, is because the defense was already ahead of the offense in that play.
He has a pretty good 3pt shot that i see no problem translating to the NBA distance, has a slow release but nothing out of the ordinary, and he has a good one pump-shot for when defenses closes on him.
Also the main problem for him not being a shot creator is his iffy dribling, yet Green has showed that you don´t need to be elite in that aspect to succeed in the Spurs.

Nothing flashy, for me is the usual spurs blue collar guy, and i think he will be in front of Anderson and Simmons very soon.

had to laugh at your homerism. In no world is he better than Anderson and for Simmons that is yet to be seen.

[dabom]

had to laugh at your homerism. In no world is he better than Anderson and for Simmons that is yet to be seen.

Not funny considering you don't know basketball.

[TD 21]

PG: Parker, Mills, Murray
SG: Green, Manu, Simmons
SF: Kawhi, Anderson, Bertans .. There's a reason why Forbes and Garino were undrafted. There's a reason why no team offered them full guaranteed deals (like GPII) . Those two players are not better than any of those 9 players ahead of them. So yes, they'd be buried on the bench in a suit or in Austin.

I don't get the fascination with him. I know it's partially because he's Argentinian, but the situation is clearly what you described. He even sounded resigned to his fate after he signed.

The 15th spot (really, Jean-Charles will be the 15th man though) is probably going to Robinson or, if he chooses the Pacers or whoever else might be interested, some other big.