Tony Parker retires from international play after France's elimination

[Spurtacular]

Absolutely false. Having no ball-handling skills or playmaking in your starting backcourt is a disaster.

If Mills and Parker are compared on something like NBA 2K player ratings, I can see Mills having a slight edge. But Patty's skillset is redundant in the starting lineup (he's a shorter Danny Green without the defense) and a Parker/Manu bench pairing doesn't make much sense in this day and age.

Parker is no better on defense than Mills; worse frankly. And Mills does not have ball control issues at this point. Comparing his ball handling to DG is disingenuous or just lacking in basketball knowledge.

Parker is not starter quality at this point. Curry tore Parker apart limb from limb.

[SASdynasty!]

Are we supposed to blame our good players?

Fathead, Dworst, Porker are the top 3 worst players last postseason. WhoTF do people expect to blame?

2016 Playoffs:

Parker: 10.4/5.3 on 45%
Mills: 6.6/2.0 on 43%

[SASdynasty!]

Parker is no better on defense than Mills; worse frankly. And Mills does not have ball control issues at this point. Comparing his ball handling to DG is disingenuous or just lacking in basketball knowledge.

Parker is not starter quality at this point. Curry tore Parker apart limb from limb.

Just like Parker did to him. Who held Curry to his worst shooting game of all time?

[Spurtacular]

Just like Parker did to him. Who held Curry to his worst shooting game of all time?

That was because of a team buy-in to stop him. It wasn't Parker being a defensive stopper.

[K...]

That was because of a team buy-in to stop him. It wasn't Parker being a defensive stopper.

Oh so curry demands a team to stop him but prime Parker sucks because he never led a team to the finals?

[Spurtacular]

Oh so curry demands a team to stop him but prime Parker sucks because he never led a team to the finals?

I'm not a 'porker' fanboy hater. I'm talking about the current state of affairs.

[Diego20]

Patty just got destroyed by the team Parker beat with a game winner a few days ago.

dumbass

[thiste]

They also won their last Olympic medal the year before Porker joined the team. They never even sniffed a bronze with Porker on the roster.

Porker: a proven cancer in the NBA, FIBA, and the Olympics. When will idiots stop elevating this scrub to the level of true winners like Duncan, Manu and Kawhi?

Coming from a Clippers fan

[Seventyniner]

Parker is no better on defense than Mills; worse frankly. And Mills does not have ball control issues at this point. Comparing his ball handling to DG is disingenuous or just lacking in basketball knowledge.

Parker is not starter quality at this point. Curry tore Parker apart limb from limb.

Patty can bring the ball up the floor, more than Danny can do, sure. But actually dribbling through a defense and looking to make a play? Parker, even now, is far better at that. The difference in ball-handling between Patty and Danny is smaller than the one between Patty and Parker.

Defense is another place we disagree. IMO Patty is awful on defense while Parker is just bad.

Bringing up Curry is also either disingenuous or lacking in basketball knowledge if you're trying to make a point. Curry was the runaway MVP and destroyed everyone in the league.

[Snaq O'Meal]

Who held Curry to his worst shooting game of all time?

The same guy who blocked Curry's 3-point attempt and got into Curry's head.

[SAGirl]

This is a dude that literally averaged 4 PPG and 2 APG this playoffs against OKC on 42% shooting. It's hard to fathom that level of inep ude in the playoffs.

As the featured scorer... Quoted for emphasis. To note. Patty has been huge in playoff series b4, but when played as a playmaker his own game as a scorer suffers, everything is an off the dribble jumpshot and he can't create for teammates that way. He needs to play off the ball, his game comes alive that way. He plays well with other playmakers, but he's not one or the best himself. In the olympics, Delly is their playmaker and in the Spurs, aside from Ginobili, the rest of the guys could pass very well, starting with Diaw. Tiago and Dwest were not too shabby as passers and Anderson himself is a distributor at his best.

Whenever he was played without Manu during the season, the playmaker was Anderson or Diaw.

[dabom]

I don't know why people would bring up ball handling that Tony doesn't have right now. He is more liable for a ing turnover.

[Spurtacular]

Coming from a Clippers fan

Not a Clips fan. Just an alt of someone who wants to be on Blake's nuts in case something ever goes down.

[Spurtacular]

Patty can bring the ball up the floor, more than Danny can do, sure. But actually dribbling through a defense and looking to make a play? Parker, even now, is far better at that. The difference in ball-handling between Patty and Danny is smaller than the one between Patty and Parker.

Defense is another place we disagree. IMO Patty is awful on defense while Parker is just bad.

Bringing up Curry is also either disingenuous or lacking in basketball knowledge if you're trying to make a point. Curry was the runaway MVP and destroyed everyone in the league.

You act like Parker is Steve Nash with the ball. He over dribbles and the offense stagnates. His mid range and tear drops have went to sh** b/c he no longer has the legs to sustain it. He's too arrogant to realize he has to pick his spots and not force it. But he wants to be among the team leaders in shots even if it's a detriment to the team. Even the great Duncan gradually accepted less and less shots; and he was a much more efficient scorer. Bringing it back to Mills, he can create in the pick n' roll. Come off and make threes or get into the lane and kick. He doesn't have to dribble dribble dribble. The idea that Parker can do that better is overvaluing that skill at any rate.

I think in general, an argument could be made that Parker is slightly better on D than Mills, particularly in the post. But once you get to elite fast level guards like Curry and Irving, Parker simply can't keep up at this point.

And Curry didn't "destroy" Irving and the Cleveland guards. He did shame Parker though.

[From Downtown]

He's clearly the best Frenchie of all time and it'seems not even close, c'mon guys

[SpurOutofTownFan]

Yet you're the one ing on hater's Manu thread, player fan

Wow sorry I forgot you had to come out to defend your boyfriend

[SASdynasty!]

You act like Parker is Steve Nash with the ball. He over dribbles and the offense stagnates. His mid range and tear drops have went to sh** b/c he no longer has the legs to sustain it. He's too arrogant to realize he has to pick his spots and not force it. But he wants to be among the team leaders in shots even if it's a detriment to the team. Even the great Duncan gradually accepted less and less shots; and he was a much more efficient scorer. Bringing it back to Mills, he can create in the pick n' roll. Come off and make threes or get into the lane and kick. He doesn't have to dribble dribble dribble. The idea that Parker can do that better is overvaluing that skill at any rate.

I think in general, an argument could be made that Parker is slightly better on D than Mills, particularly in the post. But once you get to elite fast level guards like Curry and Irving, Parker simply can't keep up at this point.

And Curry didn't "destroy" Irving and the Cleveland guards. He did shame Parker though.

Once again your provide zero stars to back up your statements. "Parker overdribbles." Prove it. The reason I ask is because you routinely post false statements unsupported by facts. Here's one:

"Duncan was a much more efficient scorer:

Tim Duncan: Career .506 FG%
Tony Parker: Career .494 FG%

And Duncan is a big, which is why they have the same TS% for their career. In what way was Duncan a MUCH more efficient scorer?

[J_Paco]

Don't quit your day job. Keeping Cory over Patty is nonsense. And Patty played PG in college; and he does it well in the NBA. It's fine that he defers much to a great playmaker like Ginobili, though, and moves more w/o the ball when he has such a fine shot.

Don't worry, I'm not trying to become apart of the organization. I enjoy being a fan, but I see you think you have some insight.

Yet, none of the nonsense you claim ever comes to pass...

You are a complete idiot if you think Patty Mills is anywhere near a starting NBA caliber PG. He is small, doesn't finish strong, is inconsistent/poor on defense and can't create offense for anyone else. Even on his own national team Dellavedova intents the offense not Patty.

If he was the better option Pop would've experimented with that idea. He didn't cause he is smart enough to know that Patty is to limited to start for 82 games + the playoffs

Oh wait, I forgot who I was arguing with......

[dabom]

People actually fear Patty. No teams fear Porker.

[SASdynasty!]

People actually fear Patty. No teams fear Porker.

Let me know when Lebron and Sefalosha start guarding Patty.

[dabom]

Let me know when Lebron and Sefalosha start guarding Patty.

Don't remind me. Dude airballed the go ahead game winner in game 6 2013.

[dabom]

2012 anyone

[Spurtacular]

Once again your provide zero stars to back up your statements. "Parker overdribbles." Prove it. The reason I ask is because you routinely post false statements unsupported by facts. Here's one:

"Duncan was a much more efficient scorer:

Tim Duncan: Career .506 FG%
Tony Parker: Career .494 FG%

And Duncan is a big, which is why they have the same TS% for their career. In what way was Duncan a MUCH more efficient scorer?

You want me to give you over dribbling stats? Nah. I think we all know that Parker over dribbles at times. It wasn't so bad when the teammates weren't as good and he was much faster and could get into the lane at will. Now, it's much more detrimental.

Duncan was a more efficient scorer. He made quick decisive decisions, one on one or with the double coming. Parker getting into the lane on Duncan screens; Parker not doing much in the way of drive and dish for Timmy though. The fact that Duncan didn't have a higher FG is reflective of him playing with a guy like Parker instead of Nash, tbh.

[SASdynasty!]

Don't remind me. Dude airballed the go ahead game winner in game 6 2013.

He had 5 seconds to take it the length of the court. Meanwhile Ginobili had a full clock and couldn't even get a shot off at the end of overtime.

[dabom]

He had 5 seconds to take it the length of the court. Meanwhile Ginobili had a full clock and couldn't even get a shot off at the end of overtime.

Funny cause we weren't even talking about Manu.

And Tony has been a bag of these past 3 playoffs.