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    TBH Harrison Barnes was terrible in the playoffs, but people underestimate how important he was in smoothing our their small lineups over the course of each game. He and Green are extremely strong at their base, they were the two guys who Lamarcus and Kawhi couldn't easily move in the post. When the games count, the Warriors are going to need Green and Iguodala to play like 38MPG each. Most playoff teams should be able to match their efficiency for any minutes where their front line consists of West/Zaza/Varajao.

    From the Spurs perspective, they'll have to figure out what the they're going to do about a Curry/Klay/KD lineup in terms of matchups. The good news is that they have plenty of options besides putting Parker on Curry. Manu could play PG and hide on Klay, Simmons could probably play PG if we ran the offense through the bigs, or you could put KA at SF, hide him on Klay and have him take the ball up. The bottom line is we're going to have to figure out how to make the offense work when Tony gets run off the floor.

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    Four years seems like the standard for a dynasty team. The Kobe-Shaq Lakers, the LeBron Heat, give or take a year. What matters a lot is how good the role players are. They age or lose their edge and are hard to replace.

    I figure adding Durant has extended their window. Their first ring was kind of flukey, the loss last year was kind of flukey. But they've lost good role players and are strictly perimeter oriented. I think they'll trade Klay Thompson in a year or so, they'll have to.

    But ultimately history is always the guide. They'll have Teri or three years before they shake apart a bit. Only the Bulls were able to retool for two separate runs.

    No, they won't.


    This isn't the NFL. In the NBA you overpay to keep your own players and stay over the soft cap/tax. Of course, you only get the annual MLE and vet min contracts outside of that, but that isn't a huge problem when you've got Durant, Curry, Green, Thompson, Iguodala, Livingston, Pachulia and others who you can re-sign for as much as you want.

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    I think that's kind of his point, so you're really agreeing with him.

    If you look at last year's Spurs squad versus 2014, the big difference was lack of an effective bench, a path that GS is likely going down this year because they gutted it signing KD.
    No, I'm not. He says they won't keep the core four together long term. Maybe, they won't. But I don't see it as a foregone conclusion.

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    They will be pretty dominant in the regular season because the league is watered-down and lousy for the most part. The playoffs are a whole different story - as we all know. 9 regular season losses and 9 playoff losses last year for the Warriors. GS's roster took a hit in terms of chemistry and depth with Barnes, Barbosa, Festus and Bogut leaving. I'm not sold on ZaZa and David West adding much either. No lock imo.
    Yeah, but they're like the U.S. team: They have their flaws (no rim protector/roll man and lack of depth, which they'll probably address at some point), but who's equipped to beat them?

    People are trying to make Aldridge to the Spurs comparisons, with the sacrificing of chemistry and depth, but the Spurs came up short because too many key players aged significantly. They're not as reliant on their older players and even if that happens in their case, they have superior high end talent.

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    No, they won't.


    This isn't the NFL. In the NBA you overpay to keep your own players and stay over the soft cap/tax. Of course, you only get the annual MLE and vet min contracts outside of that, but that isn't a huge problem when you've got Durant, Curry, Green, Thompson, Iguodala, Livingston, Pachulia and others who you can re-sign for as much as you want.
    Yes they will. He's redundant. Worse than redundant, he'll be a very expensive corner three guy. They'll trade out of the contract and try to refill the bench.

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    Yes they will. He's redundant. Worse than redundant, he'll be a very expensive corner three guy. They'll trade out of the contract and try to refill the bench.
    Without him, they lose in OKC game 6, Durant gets his ring, and the Warriors are left with zero--no Durant, no ring, no Finals appearance, just a 2012 Spurs-like WCF exit after a killer regular season.

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    A rather sour at ude from the Jesus Lover. Hypocrite.

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    Yeah, but they're like the U.S. team: They have their flaws (no rim protector/roll man and lack of depth, which they'll probably address at some point), but who's equipped to beat them?

    People are trying to make Aldridge to the Spurs comparisons, with the sacrificing of chemistry and depth, but the Spurs came up short because too many key players aged significantly. They're not as reliant on their older players and even if that happens in their case, they have superior high end talent.
    I think the Spurs downfall was due to the following:

    1. Lack of Ball Movement in the Playoffs / Too much reliance on Aldridge and Leonard
    2. Tim's Injury - which was a hit to their defense and rebounding / caused others to play out of position
    3. OKC's desire - they outplayed the Spurs & rode the momentum

    I think the Spurs will be better this year with a healthy line-up and a younger roster. Aldridge will be more comfortable in the offense and Pau will certainly be an upgrade on offense. Others will be forced to take ownership now that Tim is gone. Yikes, "Tim is gone". That just sounds messed up.

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    I think the Spurs downfall was due to the following:

    1. Lack of Ball Movement in the Playoffs / Too much reliance on Aldridge and Leonard
    2. Tim's Injury - which was a hit to their defense and rebounding / caused others to play out of position
    3. OKC's desire - they outplayed the Spurs & rode the momentum

    I think the Spurs will be better this year with a healthy line-up and a younger roster. Aldridge will be more comfortable in the offense and Pau will certainly be an upgrade on offense. Others will be forced to take ownership now that Tim is gone. Yikes, "Tim is gone". That just sounds messed up.
    Are people this ing stupid? The Spurs playmakers/role players/role player shooting wasn't there. We went to a Kawhi/LMA ISO because of that.

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    We have seen super teams fail before. Malone and Payton joining prime Kobe and Shaq and of course Dwight and Nash joining Gasol and Kobe, Pippen and Barkley joining Hakeem and Drexler etc. They all talking about not needing their shots now, but we will see. Spurs need no to worry about matchups and just play their game.

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    It's not like Pop and Co were like, "Guys the passing. We don't know if it doesn't work. Feed KAwhi and LMA. "

    More like. " . We can't set out plays. We keep missing shots. it. Go to Kawhi and LMA heavy cause that other ain't working."

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    I'm tired of low IQ posting on here guys. Especially some bolds. Not all. Just a good amount.

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    We have seen super teams fail before. Malone and Payton joining prime Kobe and Shaq and of course Dwight and Nash joining Gasol and Kobe, Pippen and Barkley joining Hakeem and Drexler etc. They all talking about not needing their shots now, but we will see. Spurs need no to worry about matchups and just play their game.
    Those teams failed all year long, they were reaching back for one more chance at glory. GSW aint that. My question is, did they address their need for big men? That and the fact that theres only one ball to go around to so many offensive players.

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    Are people this ing stupid? The Spurs playmakers/role players/role player shooting wasn't there. We went to a Kawhi/LMA ISO because of that.
    Just shut the up, you don't know what you're talking about. The Spurs didn't move the ball well and the offense became stagnant, predictable and easy to defend. Just because you run an ISO based offense doesn't mean you stop moving the ball. Everyone needs to be a threat to keep the defense honest and prevent easy help or double teams. Without good ball movement, shots become forced or easily contested.

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    Just shut the up, you don't know what you're talking about. The Spurs didn't move the ball well and the offense became stagnant, predictable and easy to defend. Just because you run an ISO based offense doesn't mean you stop moving the ball. Everyone needs to be a threat to keep the defense honest and prevent easy help or double teams. Without good ball movement, shots become forced or easily contested.
    No you don't know you stupid ing porker fan. I know the agenda you got.

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    And don't take all day trying to figure how to respond cause you know your ing dead wrong. You think Pop out of ing no where just said " all the passing guys". No that's not how it went down you stupid .

    Trying to blame the only people that kept the series compe ive.

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    And don't take all day trying to figure how to respond cause you know your ing dead wrong. You think Pop out of ing no where just said " all the passing guys". No that's not how it went down you stupid .

    Trying to blame the only people that kept the series compe ive.

    Porker fan? Who the do you think you're talking to you Sperm gurgling fanboy? I don't give a about Tony Parker. ISO offenses don't mean you stop moving the ball. Gawd damn you're an insolent, ignorant little . Who the let you stay up this late?

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    Porker fan? Who the do you think you're talking to you Sperm gurgling fanboy? I don't give a about Tony Parker. ISO offenses don't mean you stop moving the ball. Gawd damn your an insolent, ignorant little . Who the let you stay up this late?
    I remember you were part of the porker slurping group you got. Just cause you changed tunes lately don't make it false. We know all porker slurpers deflect blame onto other players.

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    Low IQ antiquated vanilla mainstream fans.

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    No you don't know you stupid ing porker fan. I know the agenda you got.
    You ing dumbass, I listed different reasons they lost and you think I'm blaming KL and LMA for the loss. Go back to jacking off in your own mouth and pretending you know a ing thing about basketball. GED having mother er.

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    I remember you were part of the porker slurping group you got. Just cause you changed tunes lately don't make it false. We know all porker slurpers deflect blame onto other players.
    You stupid C*U*N*T, find me one quote where I said something positive about Porker. DO IT NOW GOT. LOL, dumbass.

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    Low IQ antiquated vanilla mainstream fans.
    I'm going to sleep. Tired of slapping around these porker slurpers.

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    Stupid ass, still living at home with your parents, no diploma having .

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    I'm going to sleep. Tired of slapping around these porker slurpers.
    Who the are you talking to? It's just me in here you're running from. FIND MY QUOTES GOT. You know you don't have a job to go to tomorrow. Pussy.

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