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I'm intrigued by his stupidity and still am not sure if he's just a masterful troll.is this Reck vs TSA feud the new ducks vs boutons, tbh?
I'm intrigued by his stupidity and still am not sure if he's just a masterful troll.
Dude has a bug up his ass because I prefer Hillary to Cheeto Trump.
Oh and because I make fun of his conspiracy theories.
I guess the distinguishing point is intent. If a foreign government intentionally steals and leaks information in an effort to influence a US election, is that ok with you?
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Secrecy will always be necessary. The decision on what to keep secret is problematic.
I am ok with it in this particular case, and I tell you why: I have no allegiance to Shillary or the Democtratic party (nor Trump or the Republican party). But, considering we live in a democracy that's firmly based on a two party system, the rampant corruption on either party does have detrimental effect on democracy itself. So I have to weight the messenger and his/her intent vis-a-vis the actual message and the fallout from it. They're not inextricable. The long view is that more episodes like this, regardless of timing or messenger's intent, will provide certain checks on party corruption, and I think that outweighs the short view, which is the outcome of the election at hand.
In a nuts , my opinion (and everybody is free to disagree) is that the long view, in this case, far outweighs the short view. So I'm not going to shoot the messenger, because I think in the long term it's doing our democracy a favor.
The DNC plotting against their own candidates is corruption, and should be cleaned up. At least, it will invite more scrutiny in the future.
It's not going to solve all the problems, but if it helps clean up at least one or more, that's a positive.
Bernie was an independent running for the Dem nomination. He wasn't "Dem's own candidate".
He was a candidate for the Democtratic party. That automatically makes him a candidate under DNC tutelage.
Seeking asylum is the result of being on the run. AT this point the accusations are just smears and the reality of what has happened to other whistleblowers is real but whether or not he is actually a rapist is a matter of probability not certainty. Open mind is the best approach IMO.
The whole email thing stinks. DNC was hacked months ago when the primary was still in question. Honest justice would've released them then and a wrong would've been righted. This is just a gratuitous after the fact smear.
The whole notion of the enemy of my enemy is my friend is ty policy. I'm no Hillary fan but gmfb.
Mebbe so, but he always the unwelcome outsider who hadn't called himself a Dem, was absolutely not a priority for Dem establishment.
I merely took exception to a claim that appeared to be factual in nature, but then was clarified as merely opinion. I'm not going to chastise anybody from holding an opinion. When I asked if he's been tried and convicted yet, seeking backup for that claim, I've got back that "we all know michael jackson liked to pedo it up"... so ok, it was an opinion, that's fine by me, even if we disagree.
I hold no sympathy for Putin or Russia, but that's besides the point. I'd like whistleblowers that actually come up with tangible evidence of wrongdoing to be able to speak up without fear of retribution. I also think this whole incident can be an opportunity for the DNC to clean up (some) of their mess. My hope is that they do learn from this, in a good way.
EDIT: Just to add, I'd like them to clean up not because I like the Democrats, but because corruption in political parties, no matter who they are, especially under our two party system, really devalue our democracy.
Wasserman has already been removed. The issue is that it was released after the damage has already been done. Whoever did this did it to cause the most harm as opposed to seeking justice.
If you really would have wanted to clean up the DNC then you would have affected the primary and not the general. Whoever gets the nomination chooses the lion's share of the leadership.
I hope it did a lot of harm. Hopefully we see more harm of this kind being done, it's the only way we're going to get people thinking twice about doing dirty stuff. Like I said, I hope there's lessons learned here, but the good kind, not doubling-down on obscurity, or the perception that it was only bad because they were caught.
I don't care at all about the upcoming election. I don't care who wins or loses (other than the trolling potential). My hope is this incident has a long lasting impact as far as eradicating corruption, on both parties.
"eradicating corruption, on both parties"
this incident won't have any effect on corruption of both parties by huge amounts of money seeking preferential treatment. The political system is totally corrupt.
The only people who can stop the corruption are the people making laws and regs, and they are paid to be corrupt and keep the corruption going.
Exactly.This guy is a dumbass. He's been saying he's got suff on Hillary that will put her in jail for like 2 years now.
Last week he said he had voicemails and would release them.
These are scare tactics that only work on high schoolers. Oh look here I got a big bad wolf in the closet. Be scurred!
Here is his latest spout:
Assange says WikiLeaks to release 'significant' Clinton campaign data
http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politi...cid=spartandhpSounds like his is just attention whoring it up again.
Jemima Khan, who helped pay for his bail - and then lost the money - has written a searing critique of his behaviour,
http://www.newstatesman.com/2013/02/...ted-his-allies
explaining why she no longer supports him."I have seen flashes of Assange’s charm, brilliance and insightfulness," she wrote in 2013. "But I have also seen how instantaneous rock-star status has the power to make even the most clear-headed idealist feel that they are above the law and exempt from criticism."The Guardian, which published his early work, fell out with Mr Assange over his refusal to redact some of the material.
Jemima Khan
So you guys think Assange is any more in the Clinton crosshairs?
Or nah, they just consider him a pest, won't affect a Shillary win?
I think it might be a bit of both. Assange won't come up with anything big enough to get people to choose the Orange Moron over her.
But, they will seek revenge on Assanges ass after the election.
His last round of attention whoring exposed the corrupt DNC and got the head to resign. Next batch will do more damage I'm sure.
Assange's lawyer committed "suicide" by jumping in front a train recently. Wouldn't surprise me to see Assange suicide himself with a couple shots to the back of the head
so we know Assange is in the cross hairs.
Wonder how the Ecuadorian authorities that granted access and continue approving his holing up at the Ecuadorian embassy are escaping Clinton bullets?
Why now TSA?
Hillary has had years to eliminate him.
If that is what you're implying.
True.
Plus what high profile lawyer does not have at least a dozen people wishing they'd be off'd.
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