advanced stats for the playoffs:
PER TS% STL% BLK% TOV% USG% OWS DWS WS WS/48 OBPM DPM BPM VORP manu 19.7 .580 2.5 0.8 15.6 24.5 11.9 8.2 20.1 .169 4.0 1.4 5.4 10.6 tony 16.8 .514 1.4 0.2 13.3 27.4 6.9 6.3 13.2 .084 0.8 -0.8 0.0 3.7
per 36 in the playoffs:
tony averages 18.7 on 16.2 shot attempts, manu averages 18.4 on 13.1 shot attempts
parker only averages .1 less turnover, manu averages about twice as many steals
parker only averages .5 more assist
Playoffs:
Boban: 25.4 PER
Manu: 19.7 PER
Boban: 0.752 TS%
Manu: 0.580 TS%
Boban: 4.9 OBPM
Manu: 4.0 OBPM
Boban: 0.336 WS/48
Manu: 0.169 WS/48
This is how Manu's advanced stats stack up against a fellow bench player. Way to leave out the advanced stats that weren't in Manu's favor by the way.
you're pathetic, boban has only played 42 minutes in the playoffs.
the only advanced stat, for the playoffs, i left out that parker has on manu is AST%. you know what else i left out? manu also having a better FTr, ORB%, DRB%, TRB%.
Last edited by gambit1990; 08-28-2016 at 04:50 PM.
Spurs couldn't keep Boban b/c Tony wanted to keep his fat contract in tact.
And you're pathetic for comparing advanced stats of a starter to a guy who played against backup squads most of his career.
with the game on the line... parker's ass was on the bench while manu was on the floor for:
-game 6 against the mavs in 2003
-game 6 against the nets in 2003
-game 5 against the grizzles in 2011 (regulation + overtime)
-game 6 against okc in 2014 (regulation + overtime)
-game 3 against the grizzles in 2016
those are just some 4th quarters i can remember off the top of my head.
Also Manu was on the floor of:
with the game on the line... parker's ass was on the bench while manu was on the floor for:
-game 6 against the mavs in 2003
-game 6 against the nets in 2003
-game 5 against the grizzles in 2011 (regulation + overtime)
-game 6 against okc in 2014 (regulation + overtime)
-game 3 against the grizzles in 2016
those are just some 4th quarters i can remember off the top of my head.
-Game 5 against LA in 2004
-Game 7 against Dallas in 2006
-Game 6 against Miami in 2013
warrior, tbh...
This really is the most stupidest and pointless thread ever. Do y'all really think any other fanbase is so insecure that they argue which second/third guy was best (McHale/Parrish, Cousy/Havlicek, Thompson/Green or Irving/Love) on their championship teams?
It doesn't ing matter. Neither one was good enough or great enough to sustainably carry a team throughout most of his career. Neither one was obstainsibly better than all of his teammates while making everyone better by his sheer presence alone. That was all Timothy Theodore Duncan......
Manu and Tony both beat the odds to become HOF players and the greatest backcourt duo in NBA histroy (IMO), but one of the greatest (top 3) big men ever made all the difference. They both had noticeable strengths and weaknesses, but thankfully most of the sore spots in their games didn't hurt the team (all the time). Any fan worth his salt appreciates what both of them helped the team to accomplish and everything else is silly semantics.
And not to start , but I find it ironic/hilarious that the haters constantly harp on Tony being benched at different moments of his career (not realizing this has happened to even Scottie Pipper and other great players) yet ignore the fact that Manu literally cost the team 2 or 3 championship opportunities.
Last edited by J_Paco; 08-29-2016 at 05:18 AM.
When Manu was a starter and played enough minutes (30 minutes per game at least) in 2004-2005 & 2010-2011 , he played better than TP..
not playoffs... but another close game where parker was benched for the end of the 4th and overtime:
with the game on the line... parker's ass was on the bench while manu was on the floor for:
-game 6 against the mavs in 2003
-game 6 against the nets in 2003
-game 5 against the grizzles in 2011 (regulation + overtime)
-game 6 against okc in 2014 (regulation + overtime)
-game 3 against the grizzles in 2016
those are just some 4th quarters i can remember off the top of my head.
Manu led the ENTIRE league in offensive win-shares during the 2005 postseason aka he was the best playmaker.
Porky had a pathetic 0.1 WS/48 rating for the 2007 postseason b/c he wasn't setting the world on fire against Deron Williams/Nash before he faced the Leastern Conference champs in the Finals led by the great Eric Snow.
Parker 2007 NBA Playoffs:
vs Denver: 18.2/6.8 on 44%
vs Phoenix: 20.8/5.7 on 45%
vs Utah: 20.2/6.8 on 48%
vs Cleveland: 24.5/5.0 on 57%
For reference, Manu averaged 18.7/5.9 on 49% in the 2005 Finals.
Oh, and Eric Snow played 10 minutes per game that series. He was the equivalent of 2003 Speedy Claxton.
SASdynasty! making a fool of himself, nothing new though.
Against a very good Pistons and champs of 2004.
No one ever argued Parker had a better Finals in 2005. Only the other 5 Finals.
And the 2007 Cavs beat the Billups/Hamilton/Wallace/Prince/Webber/McDyess Pistons.Against a very good Pistons and champs of 2004.
where is tony and where is manu?
parker was benched the last couple minutes of double OT here:
Which proves 2005 pistons were better than 2007 pistons?
SuperManu, tbh
Why not? Every other ing thread on ST devolves into that. Mostly because of you and your alts.
Shut up u lil .
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