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    I'd take prime Robinson over prime Wilt & Russell any day of the week. Players and athletes have improved over time.

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    I'd take prime Robinson over prime Wilt & Russell any day of the week. Players and athletes have improved over time.
    DRob was probably quicker but he wasn't stronger, faster, or as great a leaper as the Dipper. Wilt objectively ran in the 4.4s, benched over 500 lbs, squatted 700lbs, and could touch the top of the backboard in his prime.

    He also had an infinitely more advanced post game than DRob, was a much better rebounder, and better shot blocker.

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    DRob was probably quicker but he wasn't stronger, faster, or as great a leaper as the Dipper. Wilt objectively ran in the 4.4s, benched over 500 lbs, squatted 700lbs, and could touch the top of the backboard in his prime.

    He also had an infinitely more advanced post game than DRob, was a much better rebounder, and better shot blocker.
    Yea, we're always hearing about these alleged benchmarks that Wilt could hit from the Wilt jockers; embellished rubbish. D-Rob was a superior athlete, tbh. He would've chewed up Horace Grant Plus.

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    Dwight would've pulled off 30 and 20 vs the midgets too.
    Wilt’s vertical leap was higher than Michael Jordan’s at 48”. The average height of a center in the 60's was 6'10". He ran a sub a 10 second 100 yard dash and also threw the shot put 56 feet, he triple jumped in excess of 50 feet and successfully won the Big 8 Conference high jumping compe ion three years in a row.

    Howard not so much.

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    I just don't see it. If you put Wilt in the top twenty, you have to put Russell in the top twenty, given that he owned Wilt. I don't have Russell top twenty. To me, it's probably akin to listing Terry mings in the top twenty.

    EDIT: My bad, mods. Thought I was already downstairs if you want to move the thread.....
    What exactly are you trying to accomplish with this take? Is this like "suicide by cop" ? Are you just trying to get lit up with your outrageous opinion? Did you bother reviewing stats and or rule changes to the game when you came out with your statement? Eh, I'm not buying. Go sell crazy someplace else.

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    Wilt’s vertical leap was higher than Michael Jordan’s at 48”. The average height of a center in the 60's was 6'10". He ran a sub a 10 second 100 yard dash and also threw the shot put 56 feet, he triple jumped in excess of 50 feet and successfully won the Big 8 Conference high jumping compe ion three years in a row.

    Howard not so much.
    Of course he did. He was athletic ahead of his time. We're still talking about the fact that he wouldn't have been dominating bigger, stronger, faster athletes.

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    What exactly are you trying to accomplish with this take? Is this like "suicide by cop" ? Are you just trying to get lit up with your outrageous opinion? Did you bother reviewing stats and or rule changes to the game when you came out with your statement? Eh, I'm not buying. Go sell crazy someplace else.
    I'm destroying the misnomer that Wilt was that great, tbh. Wilt kind of sucked at basketball, tbh. His shot was sh**. He needed to be taller and faster than the competish to get within his 6 ft shooting range.

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    Yea, we're always hearing about these alleged benchmarks that Wilt could hit from the Wilt jockers; embellished rubbish. D-Rob was a superior athlete, tbh. He would've chewed up Horace Grant Plus.
    There are multiple sources from people that worked out with him confirming it. Then we have random internet troll.

    I'll let people decide for themselves.

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    such a and attention whoring thread.

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    There are multiple sources from people that worked out with him confirming it. Then we have random internet troll.

    I'll let people decide for themselves.
    People romanticize their heroes. You can go downstairs and see plenty of people calling Kobe the next Michael Jordan if you need confirmation.

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    People romanticize their heroes. You can go downstairs and see plenty of people calling Kobe the next Michael Jordan if you need confirmation.
    More stupidity. Romanticizing implies that the description is based on emotion or intuition. The Romantic evaluates based on what they feel. The people talking about Chamberlains athletic feats listed numbers like specific weights and times. His track accomplishments are a matter of public record and you can watch film to see how high he gets. The very opposite of romantic.

    What is romantic is your approach which has nothing substantive behind it and instead emotional generalizations and characterizations like the above. Unfortunately yours is poor fiction.

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    Whatever people you meet that make that claim are beyond stupid. Wilt was far, far superior to nearly every modern (last 6 years) center in conditioning, skill and strength. He would destroy a slow, plodding big man like Hibbert with his superior agility, athleticism and stamina.

    They say the man was "ahead of his time" for a reason. He was likely the most physically gifted big man in NBA history, period.

    The guy played entire game routinely in his career when the pace was much, much faster to today's game. And there were plenty of bruisers beating him up and trying to wear him down, nightly.

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    Theres a video of Wilt shaking Shaqs hand and he almost dwarfs Shaq and Shaq gives a look like Wilt is crushing his hand.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bU43dTuMuig

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    Theres a video of Wilt shaking Shaqs hand and he almost dwarfs Shaq and Shaq gives a look like Wilt is crushing his hand.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bU43dTuMuig
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    Priceless

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    Physically, numero uno..........no one is even close, cmon..........



    Physically, the strongest ever. End of story. End of discussion. lol

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    Theres a video of Wilt shaking Shaqs hand and he almost dwarfs Shaq and Shaq gives a look like Wilt is crushing his hand.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bU43dTuMuig

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    Shaq was silently "STUNNED!"

    That is all she wrote.

    lol

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    Wilt Chamberlain is beyond human, by gawd!

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    Wilt was also good in other forms of sports, he was an all-round athlete.....

    MJ sucked in baseball. That pretty much sums it all. Let's move on, hehehehe

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    My new First Five All Time is:

    Chamberlain at center, Duncan and Leonard at forwards,

    Manu and Lebron at guards!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Aw!!!!!!!!!!!! Wo hohohohohohohohohoho!!!!!!!!!

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    It's a little one sided to assume Wilt would struggle in today's NBA due to the nutrition, technology, and rule changes that benefit today's players. Wilt and Bill were great not because of their size but because of their compe iveness. Putting Wilt in today's NBA would drive him to change his game and fit the current NBA. The lane would be more open for him, he'd recover physically faster, be physically stronger, and able to get more info on his opponents tendencies. On top of all that, he wouldn't get beat up near as much in today's powder puff NBA. Wilt was born to be a basketball player it doesn't matter the decade, there would be a place for him.

    At the same time, their stats wouldn't look nearly as inflated. There's no way Wilt scores 100 on 2's alone. The next person, if it ever happens, to break 100 will need to supplement their game with a healthy amount of three pointers. Where Wilt and Bill belong on a list of all time greats is probably the most controversial topic as far as top 5 player arguements go due to the stats they put up. I know one thing, I'd like prime either of them on the Spurs.

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    More stupidity. Romanticizing implies that the description is based on emotion or intuition. The Romantic evaluates based on what they feel. The people talking about Chamberlains athletic feats listed numbers like specific weights and times. His track accomplishments are a matter of public record and you can watch film to see how high he gets. The very opposite of romantic.

    What is romantic is your approach which has nothing substantive behind it and instead emotional generalizations and characterizations like the above. Unfortunately yours is poor fiction.
    The sources I've seen tend to be rather obscure. At any rate, being a good track and field guy does not automatically make one great at basketball. Usain Bolt is not Michael Jordan. And my contention has never been that Wilt was not an athlete. My contention has been that his basketball game was far too limited and his athleticness exaggerated to be an all time great. You have not disproved that in any capacity.

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