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    Some very telling responses from board "conservatives" in this thread.

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    Some very telling responses from board "conservatives" in this thread.
    enhancing the power of the police and the state against free individuals is what kind of conservatism?

    Worshipping force, poo-pooing privacy and our form of government.

    The blase radicalism of board conservatives continues to amaze.

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    Too cowardly for freedom, they pray to the paternalistic power of the state for safety.

    What could go wrong?

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    It's not surprising, tbh... they always held LEOs all the way up to the military above big bad government.

    That is, until big black Kenyan took on the 2nd amendment warriors. It's a difficult time for conservatives.

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    Indirectly they do

    enhancing the power of the police and the state against free individuals is what kind of conservatism?

    Worshipping force, poo-pooing privacy and our form of government.

    The blase radicalism of board conservatives continues to amaze.
    Too cowardly for freedom, they pray to the paternalistic power of the state for safety.

    What could go wrong?
    That's quite a meltdown over me simply pointing out that the American people have the govt they have been voting for. Is there a Whig party candidate this election or are going with Gary Johnson again?

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    Johnson or Stein?

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    Johnson or Stein?
    Stein is an imbecile.

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    Stein is an imbecile.
    So Johnson then?

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    Likely. Viable third party is one of my top 3 issues.

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    I think such unwarranted surveillance should be illegal. I'm OK with traffic cams, and other cameras with fixed views in public. Just stay out of my back yard where I have a six foot privacy fence.
    Should it be illegal for a 7' tall cop to walk by your 6' fence?

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    Should it be illegal for a 7' tall cop to walk by your 6' fence?
    Taking pictures every day? Yup.

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    Taking pictures every day? Yup.
    What if he walks by every day but isn't taking pictures...is that ok?

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    Is patrolling an area with a police helicopter a violation of your rights? No pictures, just an officer looking out the window.

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    ElNono doing work.

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    That's quite a meltdown over me simply pointing out that the American people have the govt they have been voting for.
    You're hardly the only poster I was replying to, and by that reasoning any action of any duly elected government is legitimate.

    Piffle.


    Is there a Whig party candidate this election or are going with Gary Johnson again?
    Don't know and I didn't vote for him last time. I'll probably not vote the top of the ballot this time around.

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    Is patrolling an area with a police helicopter a violation of your rights? No pictures, just an officer looking out the window.
    hardly an apt analogy. in this case, they are taking pictures.

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    hardly an apt analogy. in this case, they are taking pictures.
    So it's the pictures that are the problem? Just trying to figure out what has you so upset.

    Is it a violation of your privacy for a cop to patrol your neighborhood on foot while wearing a body camera?

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    hardly an apt analogy. in this case, they are taking pictures.
    In this case a person is literally one pixel. A dot on the screen.

    You paranoia is interesting.

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    Don't know and I didn't vote for him last time. I'll probably not vote the top of the ballot this time around.
    Oh I thought you were promoting him last time, guess I misremembered.

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    I thought I would for a minute, but Gary Johnson didn't survive close scrutiny.

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    In this case a person is literally one pixel. A dot on the screen.

    You paranoia is interesting.
    It's the principle of the thing. Mass surveillance isn't the job of the local PD and they damn sure oughtn't be doing it without some kind of oversight.

    Your nonchalance is telling. It's like you trust LE bureaucracies unquestioningly.

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    It's the principle of the thing. Mass surveillance isn't the job of the local PD and they damn sure oughtn't be doing it without some kind of oversight.

    Your nonchalance is telling. It's like you trust LE bureaucracies unquestioningly.
    Yeah, I trust them not to be jacking off on a one pixel picture of a babe by a swimming pool.

    I also see the benefit. I remember a string of incidents recently locally where a gang of robbers were hitting restaurants and they were getting more and more brazen and ended up killing some kid that worked at one of them. I absolutely see the value of the police being able to zoom in on an armed robbery location after the fact and see where the vehicle came from and where the vehicle went after the robbery. Same with rapists, murderers, drive by shootings, etc. The point is to identify bad guys and catch them.

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    if you think the police only catch bad guys, or that information gleaned from surveillance is only used for legitimate LE purposes, you are very naive.

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    if you think the police only catch bad guys, or that information gleaned from surveillance is only used for legitimate LE purposes, you are very naive.
    If you think they are after law abiding citizens you are very paranoid.

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    Tell me Winehole...why would law enforcement want to waste time spying on you if you aren't doing anything wrong?

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