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    FWD is not suggesting a collective bargaining agreement limiting free expression.
    He's free to express his displeasure in Kaepernik just the same.

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    He's free to express his displeasure in Kaepernik just the same.
    Sure he is, but suggesting a CBA that mandates players stand for the anthem (which he is also free to suggest) invites the accusation that he favors abridging free expression.

    You tried to make a comparison between ducks suggesting a requirement to stand and FWD criticizing that suggestion. It wasn't a good comparison.

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    fwd do you think if I bring a 8 year old to see the 49ers play and I have to explain to him why the guy is not respecting the flag is a good thing or a bad thing?
    ducks = Avante?

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    fwd do you think if I bring a 8 year old to see the 49ers play and I have to explain to him why the guy is not respecting the flag is a good thing or a bad thing?
    You should first explain to him why whether or not someone stands for a flag carries so much emotional weight for so many people, and why not doing so is such a serious sign of disrespect that it requires weeks of anxiety.

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    No.

    You don't have to do anything but watch the freakn game.
    Should you explain why the cheerleaders are scantly dressed?
    A 12 year old son might ask you, that should be fun.
    it is right before the game. I pay 200 or more for one ticket for a football game I will be there early and not miss the game! if your son ask you answer
    a 12 year old son sees women scantly dressed all the time if you go to the mall or to the beach

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    You should first explain to him why whether or not someone stands for a flag carries so much emotional weight for so many people, and why not doing so is such a serious sign of disrespect that it requires weeks of anxiety.
    He might also want to explain why Kaepernick taking a knee is disrespectful to the flag and unpatriotic, while John Q. Public continuing to order a beer and peanuts (rushing to catch the kickoff) on the concourse within earshot of the anthem and with the flag flashed on all nearby televisions is completely respectful.

    I'm sure Ducks stands up in his living room everytime the Star Spangled Banner plays during a sporting event he's watching on TV, and shames those around him who don't follow that example.

    And for the record, I have no real quarrel with ducks disliking Kaepernick other than the insistence that Kaepernick and those who side with him shouldn't have the right to protest in the first place. Free expression as a concept doesn't mean that the actor will face no private consequences. Respecting the principle, though, means accepting that people are going to say things that some won't like.

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    it is right before the game. I pay 200 or more for one ticket for a football game I will be there early and not miss the game! if your son ask you answer
    a 12 year old son sees women scantly dressed all the time if you go to the mall or to the beach
    I wanna go to the mall where they all have the same uniform doing dances together the entire game. Wow dad, they have the same colors as our team and we can easily compare breast sizes. Just focus on this so you don't have to answer such profound questions which apparently have you confused.

    Dad, what are the function of cheerleaders? I am strangely aroused...

    Well son, I am too distracted with players kneeling during the National Anthem to explain.

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    Fans lash out at Jets' Brandon Marshall over 'other' Marshall's protest
    https://www.yahoo.com/sports/news/fa...012353214.html

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    Broncos' Brandon Marshall loses endorsement with credit union

    http://sports.yahoo.com/news/broncos...191329774.html

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    He might also want to explain why Kaepernick taking a knee is disrespectful to the flag and unpatriotic, while John Q. Public continuing to order a beer and peanuts (rushing to catch the kickoff) on the concourse within earshot of the anthem and with the flag flashed on all nearby televisions is completely respectful.

    I'm sure Ducks stands up in his living room everytime the Star Spangled Banner plays during a sporting event he's watching on TV, and shames those around him who don't follow that example.

    And for the record, I have no real quarrel with ducks disliking Kaepernick other than the insistence that Kaepernick and those who side with him shouldn't have the right to protest in the first place. Free expression as a concept doesn't mean that the actor will face no private consequences. Respecting the principle, though, means accepting that people are going to say things that some won't like.
    I stand up and put my hand over my heart at a game of course my dad was in the airforce and we were taught to respect our country even if we did not agree with everything.
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    Watching football is relaxing to me. Watching the players protest makes it political and non relaxing. Tried to watch but could not. I want to be done with it. I want my relaxation back.

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    NFL blocks Cowboys from wearing the sticker to support the fallen officers yet defends others supporting a domestic terrorist group BLM who says cops should fry and protesting the flag/country.

    Yea, I’m done with the NFL. My protest is simply not watching and not buying any merchandise.

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    Thomas Noell
    Maybe I’m -not the only one boycotting the NFL this season since it is okay to support cop-kiling Black Lives Matter (Beyonce Super Bowl halftime show) and “take a knee” to protest “racist America”, but it is NOT okay for the Dallas Cowboys to wear a small, barely-noticeable sticker to honor five Dallas police officers gunned down by a BLM sympathizer.

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    These protests have turned me off to the game. Won’t purchase NFL Sunday Ticket this year.

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    Political speech will be the death of the NFL. “Panem et Circenses” are supposed to pacify, not incite. Go Stupid Spoiled Millennials!

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    Kap and the NFL r now dead to me. I’m a vet and a retired cop. I tune in to be entertained not support disrespect of our country. Keep the political statements out of sports or I will simply not support that sport.

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    Gene German
    As long as the NFL allows players to disrespect America, I will do something else with my time.

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    My TV will stay off and I will not go to another game.if players do not want to stand for the national anthem and the NFL is ok with it…….will not get another dime from my family

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    It might have something to do with man children disrespecting the flag and thus the nation that gives them the privilege to play this game.

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    This trend will only continue. No one wants to watch overpaid athletes disrespect their country.

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    Maybe vets are americans who care are ready to tell the multi millionaire football players who are ungrateful ________________ that its time to say adios.
    The millenials are on their phones and tablets so they aren’t interested either.
    Word of warning to NFL, NASCAR thought they were God and changed their formula and the fans bailed on them. Stadiums are half full and advertisers (the guys that really count) have left the building faster than Elvis.
    They better get a handle on the flag thing or its going to get ugly. I for one do not need to be lectured by black guys who have an axe to grind.

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    Maybe folks don’t want everything politicized. I respect the players right to speak on issues, have opinions and try to leverage their position for what they see as a good cause. However, the paying customer just wants to watch a football game, enjoy the camradarie with fellow fans in a venue where the focus is on something other than politics which can be divisive.

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    Their bad karma will haunt them. My Republican friends say they won’t watch games opened by this stuff. A few spoiled, overpaid athletes may cost millions in lost ad revenue, as traditional viewers tune out and that may lower player salaries next year. Sounds like justice to me.

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    With those Athletes that disrespect the flag during playing of our National Anthem; as a naturalized Asian or oriental American I also can exercise the same first amendment right to speak out and boycott by refuse to watch watching any team that has even one member that disrespect the flag during the playing of our National Anthem. Make no difference to me. #RESPECTMYADOPTEDCOUNTRY

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    OF course the viewership is down. It was a game of QB’s, one of which shows contempt for sportsmanship, team play, and when defeated whines and the other was named Siemian.

    Also, you have NFL leadership who allows players to show contempt for the flag, those who served under it, and all those who serve the communities who fight to have it on their cars and trucks. 4 game suspension for 2 lbs less air but only 2 games for battery and habitual drug abusers. They have lost the average fan and are going to feel it in the wallet.

    I hope it gets back top the roots of honoring America for its potential but, if not, I will take my hard earned money elsewhere.

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