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    So the NFL is down with insulting and disrespecting our national symbols.

    And if you watch their product you’re pretty much saying you’re down with it too.

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    It is no surprise to me the ratings are down. If one simply listens to the words of the National Anthem, or reads the lyrics, one would find the song is about fighting for liberty and observing the flag – a symbol of our nation of liberty and sacrifice – was still flying; that we were victorious in the struggle. It is sadly ironic that NFL players who benefit from that liberty, the sacrifices of all who have gone before them and added their blood to the red stripes; that these same players in siting a fight against injustice use that same anthem and the flag to which it refers as the object of their protest.
    So here is my response to these players who are ignorant of their true heritage and misplace the thrust of their grievance: Good for you for standing up against injustice. Now educate yourselves on your heritage and how to go about this correctly, as well as the fact that I have a voice also. Dear NFL – I will not watch any more of your games. Sponsors take note.

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    The NFL has gone from being the truth to being another proud American tradition to being destroyed from within by another group of individuals who are unknowingly doing the bidding of a. Inch of elitists sissies. So many fans I have spoken with are tuning out, I did a long time ago. When will these people wake up and see that they are being used ??? I will be laughing the whole time.

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    maybe mocking the american flag is catching up with the nfl. if the seahawks mock the flag as an entire team, we may soon find out how the american public will respond to such bigotry.

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    I’m done watching the NFL until they stop their employees from disrespecting our flag and National Anthem.

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    So many here have posted what I think is a sensible answer to these childish players. If they spit on our Nation, I won’t watch them, I don’t care what color they are. These idiots forget that over 1 million men have been killed, and many times that wounded, so that they can lead their life of luxury and decadence. Me, I support those who actually sacrificed something for our Nation, for my family, and for me. There is nothing cool about a lack of respect for our Nation. Certainly from those who have risen to lifestyles the rest of we citizens can only dream of.

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    Steph Curry says he supports Colin Kaepernick’s National Anthem protest posters response to him

    Zippster
    "bettering the equal rights and treatment of African-Americans and people of color."

    Why don't dark-skinned males from India or the Phillippines, who come from extreme poverty, have issues with police, gangs and drugs in this country?

    It's a cultural thang, but that is never talked about.

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    To Mr. Brandon Marshall: I fought for this great country for 27 years. I gave up my life for my country. Because of my 27 years of service I am 100% Service Disabled, Totally and Permanently (that's for life). I suffer from 2 autoimmune diseases, Anemia and Cancer.

    The least you can do is respect those of us who fought for your right to play football and stand for our Flag and National Anthem. Show some respect for those who gave so you are free to do what you want, like play football. It is the least you could do Brandon.

    I wont see to many more days in my life due to my disabilities, but as long as I am alive I will defend our Country, National Anthem and our Great Flag until my last breath.

    If any more NFL players wish to sit or kneel any more during our National Anthem, I will exercise my right to NEVER support the NFL or its sponsors again as long as I live.

    What you are doing is disrespectful and unacceptable for any real American to do.

    The least you could do to honor all those who fought for our Great Country is to Stand for the National Anthem and to respect our Flag.......it is the least.

    GOD BLESS AMERICA

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    Kneeling does nothing to improve the situation, it just spurns more hatred. If you are not proud of your country, then by all means sit on the bench, take a knee, or sit in the locker room for all I care, but don't expect anyone to cheer for you, listen to your social injustice babble, or even pay to see you or your team play. You kneel to make a statement, I hope many fans follow my response and refuse attend games in which these players are in.

    If the players want to help, start showing up in the neighborhoods and support the kids, be a big brother, lecture them about changing the culture of the black neighborhoods, staying away from the violence and drugs, get involved in a sport. Recruit other athletes/ role model friends, tell them to get out an do the same thing. The black folks want to make this all about racism, but their reputation as thugs, drug dealers, and murders begins in their own neighborhoods, black on black crime.

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    This has gotten out of hand. Simply if you want to play in The NFL separate personal issues. I guarantee that no endorsements will go to players who society feels have disrespected the flag. NFL is business and it's a short career as many find out sooner than later. Brandon Marshall had mental problems but people and players stood by him.The 49er franchise is in enough problems without Colin Kapernick who number 1 wanted out. Number 2 was called a cheater with Alton Smiths girlfriend. If you want to project inadequacies which being real he does not have the juice. Do it on your own time and don't involve football. Bet you Pat Tillman is sick over the whole deal. There is a person who gave up a career with more promise than Kapernicks got killed by his own team and do you think taking a knee sits well with his family. I close with this. How many out there are going to pay Kaps salary when he is out of "FOOTBALL"

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    So say, if in Chicago, for instance, if the police force was black in the more black areas -would that make a difference? If this is a REALLY a racial issue than it should make a big difference. I don't think it really is but sure willing to be wrong. Be happy to be wrong. But try it, let' s see if the crime rate goes down, less killings by police. We've all seen both sides to this issue; I can support both BLM & the police but we're obviously doing something wrong...so try something different.

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    whats you take on this, ducks?

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    My opinion is this, I could care less as a 20 year veteran what they do or don't do during the National Anthem. It doesn't change my stance on how I respect and love my country. What's going to change? Nothing. If you want change they first take responsibility for your actions . How about going out into your towns and visit the schools and teach these kids how important it is to stay in school, go to college and be a good model citizen in America and not break the law.

    Quick look into the stats of NFL players by race who were arrested, a large percentage of black NFL players were arrested over the white NFL players. Every time you hear about an NFL player being arrested it was either because of drugs, spouse abuse, DUI, fighting etc.....

    But as a fan I have to right to switch the channel or not route for you even though your a player on my team.

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    whats you take on this, ducks?
    I turn to sports to not worry about the problems
    now football is a place that I have to hear about the problems
    I really hope the in the new collective bargaining agreements in all sports they make the players not have a right to protest the flag.

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    TAKE YOUR MONEY AND ACTUALLY GO DO SOMETHING IF YOU ACTUALLY WANT CHANGE!!!

    I sit during the National anthem to bring awareness, Okay....you got lots of attention? Now what? You sit until what? This is it? This is the plan? You sit for 2 min, collect millions of dollars,play football and that's the master plan?

    This is your platform? The world is! Go do something positive, you have the means to actually help people in need, but you just sit for 2 min instead.

    Take your money, start a college tuition plan for young black kids. Help young black people become police offers to protect your communities. Get rid of racist white cops that patrol your neighborhoods and replace them with strong prideful men and women for the community!! Why not?? Go to Chicago, Baltimore Detroit cities crippled by black on black violence. More black kids are shoot on a weekend there then white cops do in a year across the whole country!

    I think its great to stand up for your beliefs, but you aren't doing anything then bringing attention to YOURSELF, not the movement. This is a straw many movement all show, no substance!!

    How are you really going to change, because awareness is not ACTION!! Do something for real! Otherwise you are all a bunch of posers!

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    Our national anthem stands for honor, sacrifice and respect. Something it seems that these elitist black football players don't understand. Marshall, your workplace is the football field and here's a news flash, you are paid to entertain. The workplace is not the correct forum for employee's personal issues and complaints. Your refusal to honor the national anthem is an insult to the many men and women who have made real sacrifices in behalf of all Americans. I suggest you go work in the depressed black communities and help improve the quality of life for those a lot less fortunate than yourself, instead kneeling on the sidelines.

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    I was sorry to hear that another football player decided to take a knee during the National Anthem. I think it is a terrible thing that so many athlete's have done this. We are suppose to be proud of our Country despite all the terrible thing's that have gone on. If you stop and think about thing's we were all born here in America. If you feel the need to disrespect the flag then go to another country. I'm sure you will have a different feeling about your so called life in America. I am or was a die hard 49er's fan. Now I could careless if they win a game or not. That might sound childish too some people but not to me. And it is a good possibility that I will not be watching too much football in my house. I don't condone all of the thing's that have gone wrong with law enforcement. But it take's two to make a statement. Not all officer's are bad. The Native Americans were here first. And that is not fiction it is Fact. I am proud to be an American and I am a halfbreed and proud of it

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    It's the hypocrisy that is most disturbing. 500 murders so far this year in Chicago alone. Most of those killed African Americans, and most of the murderers also African Americans. Why do thugs like Michael Brown get the headlines yet you never hear a peep about victims of black on black crime. Jesse Jackson was recently confronted about the murder rate in Chicago, a city that has been controlled by Democrats for 40 years and he blamed Republicans. I wish protesters like Brandon Marshal would use their fame to speak out about the real problem, not a problem manufactured by liberals to mask their failed social programs.

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    all these people seem to be saying the same stuff.

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    I too am against social injustice. That's why I don't believe in giving government or state run contracts to company owners because of race or nationality. I also do not believe in giving jobs to people with lower scores. Lets even the playing field for everyone, black, white, red, etc. As far as the protests, what other corporation would let you protest during working hours? What exactly are you protesting? Should the police let criminals run free? Kap and his teammates statements are too broad to understand. Are you supporting only the innocent people being mistakenly pursued by the police or do you think all offenses should be ignored?

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    In the meantime, their antics are doing zilch to help out their brothers. Guess they don't care about the hundreds of black on black deaths that occur senselessly every year. Why aren't they putting their money and fame to better use by going into those troubled communities and find out what they can do to change the cir stances and mind sets of the people in those neighborhood? It is not just the wealthy athletes who are making these useless gestures and comments. It's celebrities and music megastars too. Until they start putting their money where their mouths are, they are just enhancing the problems. How many times have you seen any of these moguls actually going into these neighborhoods and trying to do something to make a difference. Don't be fooled by a meaningless gesture or comment that costs someone nothing. They don't care about you.

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    The First Amendment gives the players the right to sit, kneel, turn their back on the flag or whatever their method of peaceful protest may be. It does not win any support from me, however. I find it disrespectful of the anthem, the flag and our country. Accordingly, I will exercise my own First Amendment Rights and not support any player, team or league which engages in, enables or supports such action. Professional athletes and other celebrities and pseudo-celebrities seem to forget that they do not perform an essential service to society. They are a form of entertainment and can be easily replaced.

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    all these people seem to be saying the same stuff.
    yes some are done with the nfl
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    but what would you say if it was lbrn not standing for the anthem?

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    Are these protesters helping the problems own their own time or just the nfls time

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