Rocket fan with Harden sounds just like they did when they said Steve Francis was a legit franchise player. Harden is a volume shooter who does nothing well other than draw free throws.
You can say whatever. Not wanting to the ball in your hands to win a game, and I want Kawhi to take that next step, is shameful. That happened the year before too. Blame Parker all you want. That's how ing re ed spurfan is. Blame Parker when other players don't assert themselves.
last year Harden carried the heaviest burden in the NBA - a team (roster and coaching staff) which is league bottom 3 at best if all teams removed their best player
League leading 38 mins/gm
Scoring runner-up 29.0 pts/gm
First among non-PGs 7.5 asts/gm (more than Lebron and Curry)
Tied for 2nd among guards 6.1 rebs/gm
Tied for 4th among guards 0.6 blks/gm
Drives, scores off drives, and passes off drives as much as Lebron http://stats.nba.com/tracking/#!/pla...t=DRIVES&dir=1
Moves around as far (works as hard) on offense as Steph Curry and more than Lebron, WB, and KDhttp://stats.nba.com/tracking/#!/pla...IST_FEET&dir=1
Generates points off touches as efficient as Steph Curry but more efficient than Lebron http://stats.nba.com/tracking/#!/pla...=TOUCHES&dir=1
Catch and shoots 3 pointers more efficient than KD http://stats.nba.com/tracking/#!/pla...gular%20Season
Shoots pull ups more efficient than WB http://stats.nba.com/tracking/#!/pla...L_UP_PTS&dir=1
But yeah he does nothing else well...
Hmm this thread deviated quickly. I wonder what the price is for either guy. There's not much in terms of NEW rumors on what they are looking for or from whom.
it's everyone else's fault Houston barely made the playoffs and got wrecked by a team minus its best player
It's funny how this works. I believe Kawhi is a better overall player than Harden but I honestly don't believe Kiwi could push that Rockets team to a playoff spot last year.
Zach Randolph for Noel or Okafor. Get it done!!
Because he couldn't, or the year before that when Dwight missed half a season. Put Kawhi on a team with a bunch of s who can't even dribble a basketball, with no Pop...
Just answer me this. Who else on the Rockets can dribble a basketball effectively?
Ariza?
Beverley? (Who can't even make a bounce pass)
Dwight?
Jones?
Brewer?
Smith?
Which of them can drive to the rim effectively?
Who else can create for others?
How about shooters?
Beverley - 43% FG
Lawson - 38% FG
Jones - 45% FG
Brewer - 38% FG
Thorton - 40% FG
Smith - 34% FG
Terry - 40%FG
Motiejuanas - 43%
No, Harden is not without blame. He came into camp fat and out of shape, and played the first month on a bum ankle. It won't happen again. Everyone wants to say Harden was the cancer, yet Terry LITERALLY called out Dwight in public for being one. (See why Al Horford left Atlanta)... When Howard wasn't on the floor last year, they were a better team. Still, most of those players are trash and were on the team the year before, and still carried them to the 2 seed. That WCF run, who got the series to game 6? Who closed out game 7? The Clippers had 3 ing chances to close that series out and didn't do it.
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In a down year, he was still worth 23 wins, which means take him off and they are a lottery team.
http://insider.espn.com/nba/hollinge...s/_/sort/VORPe
FIFY... but Harden isn't very far off, either.
Elaborate please...
So you mean to tell me Porker is a ball hog?
But then when it comes to Hakeem and David Robinson, 3 PT shooters don't matter.Just answer me this. Who else on the Rockets can dribble a basketball effectively?
Ariza?
Beverley? (Who can't even make a bounce pass)
Dwight?
Jones?
Brewer?
Smith?
Which of them can drive to the rim effectively?
Who else can create for others?
How about shooters?
Beverley - 43% FG
Lawson - 38% FG
Jones - 45% FG
Brewer - 38% FG
Thorton - 40% FG
Smith - 34% FG
Terry - 40%FG
Motiejuanas - 43%
No, Harden is not without blame. He came into camp fat and out of shape, and played the first month on a bum ankle. It won't happen again. Everyone wants to say Harden was the cancer, yet Terry LITERALLY called out Dwight in public for being one. (See why Al Horford left Atlanta)... When Howard wasn't on the floor last year, they were a better team. Still, most of those players are trash and were on the team the year before, and still carried them to the 2 seed. That WCF run, who got the series to game 6? Who closed out game 7? The Clippers had 3 ing chances to close that series out and didn't do it.
Last edited by ambchang; 09-11-2016 at 09:53 PM.
Lol, wouldn't want Harden anywhere near my team. Damned flopper who can't play effectively off the ball and doesn't defend a lick.
Post Clippers vs Rockets game 6 please. Thanks.
You know dat infamous Josh Smith/Corey Brewer Game where a certain top 12 player on the league was sulking on the bench while there bench made a historic comeback.
Very Kobesque or Parkersque
When did i say 3 point shooters don't matter? Were they responsible for Robinson getting his ter pushed in one on one on defense?
Actually he was up clapping. Not like Parker.
yeah looks like sulking
Robinson's problem wasn't defense, Hakeem was scoring 33 ppg on Shaq AND Grant double teams in the finals, so getting hit with 35ppg on single coverage isn't bad, especially when you have to take into account that Robinson had to chase down Horry because Rodman wasn't guarding his man. Robinson's problem was on offense when he got double and tripled throughout the entire series. So yeah, you saying Hakeem destroyed Robinson in that series without taking into consideration the presence of teammates and specifically 3pt shooters, and then try to pull teammates in the equation when comparing Kawhi and Harden is hypocritical.
Not to mention that Kawhi is better than Harden.
Harden better than kawhi
The grandest pf delusions my friend.
you are on crack with your Harden > Kawhi tbh... for the rest you are right
Spurs fans like to blame Parker for almost everything that went south in a PO serie or in general on earth (Starvation in Africa is surely Parker's fault)... truth is very often they throw the ball to Parker or Manu to a lesser extend nowadays to solve the problem... then spurs fans complain about his selfishness, few complain about younger guys that don't take responsability. If Kawhi wants the ball he just needs to tell Parker gtfoh and if Parker don't "obey" Pop will kick his ass like it already happened.
LOL Blake isn't going to make any team better.
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