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ing Sunni vs. Shia again? Animals!
might as well be. how but come in modern times, it almost always just the one? coincidence?
do you think the sick s carrying out the spanish inquisition were not really christians? and they "might as well be" something else?
ing Sunni vs. Shia again? Animals!
That's false.
this reminds me. the hashtag #neverforgetseptember11 was trending on twitter. i did not know about all the random attacks on innocent muslims that happened after 9/11
How can you claim to know their true beliefs just because they claim they are Muslim? Ridiculous.
if he's from a predominately muslim region, with a common muslim name, claims he is muslim, pledges allegiance to the islamic state, and kills himself while shouting about how great his god is, i think we have a decent picture.
i'm reading the picture they have painted of themselves, not pretending to know otherwise
K, why is it important to know their motives are of a religious nature again?
if he's from a predominately muslim region, with a common muslim name, claims he is muslim, pledges allegiance to the islamic state, and kills himself while shouting about how great his god is, i think we have a decent picture.
i'm reading the picture they have painted of themselves, not pretending to know otherwise
its the topic of this thread tbh
Has anyone here ever took the time to actually read the Koran and find out just who Mohammad was?
If you have then how in the world can you not get the violence situation? Killing those you cannot convert is Islam. That word ....punish...is all over the Koran. Punish those who won't join you in your religious beliefs, that is Islam, that was also Mohammad.
It's a vile and vicious load of crap.
So much of this sort of thing out there, why?
How many people have to be killied , how much blood shed does it take before people figure this out? And it's all there in the Koran.
Violence
Does the Quran really contain over a hundred verses promoting violence?
The Quran contains at least 109 verses that call Muslims to war with nonbelievers for the sake of Islamic rule. Some are quite graphic, with commands to chop off heads and fingers and kill infidels wherever they may be hiding. Muslims who do not join the fight are called 'hypocrites' and warned that Allah will send them to if they do not join the slaughter.
Last edited by Avante; 09-14-2016 at 10:26 PM.
Avante is a broken record stuck on the B side
I'm asking you. Why is important to you.
I'll ask again, why is it I could post an article a video talking about the violence in Islam everyday for 10 years? Well?
You're too stupid to waste an answer on
How sad is it to watch this Blake ? So stupid, so weak, so annoying. I don't even talk to this idiot and here he is STILL humping my leg. What a worm.
ONE MORE TIME~~~~~~~~
Why is it I can post some article/video talking about violence and Islam everyday for the next 10 years, well? I own 24 books talking about violence and Islam and I didn't search them out, they were just there at thrift stores, yard sales.
Why is there so much out there talking about this stuff, well?
Mohammad lied about his encounterr with the Angel Gabriel in that cave on the mountain, we all know this. So Islam was just his idea and he was a murderer. We all know that. His Koran is nothing more than kill kill punish chop burn....unless you do what Mohammad wants. And it's so damn obvious.
Christian crusading America invaded Muslim countries? What the ONGOING death toll for Christians and their imperial wake of death?
Or did Muslim countries invade America? What's the ongoing death toll for Muslims, and esp for Muslims killing non-Muslims?
Answer my question, why do we see so much out there talking about violence in Islam?
Tons of this stuff, why?
http://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/18/us...lims-rise.htmlHate Crimes Against American Muslims Most Since Post-9/11 Era
By ERIC LICHTBLAUSEPT. 17, 2016
WASHINGTON — Hate crimes against American Muslims have soared to their highest levels since the aftermath of the Sept. 11, 2001 attacks, according to data compiled by researchers, an increase apparently fueled by terrorist attacks in the United States and abroad and by divisive language on the campaign trail.
The trend has alarmed hate crime scholars and law-enforcement officials, who have do ented hundreds of attacks — including arsons at mosques, assaults, shootings and threats of violence — since the beginning of 2015.
While the most current hate crime statistics from the F.B.I. are not expected until November, new data from researchers at California State University, San Bernardino, found that hate crimes against American Muslims were up 78 percent over the course of 2015. Attacks on those perceived as Arab rose even more sharply.
Police and news media reports in recent months have indicated a continued flow of attacks, often against victims wearing traditional Muslim garb or seen as Middle Eastern.
Some scholars believe that the violent backlash against American Muslims is driven not only by the string of terrorist attacks in Europe and the United States that began early last year, but also by the political vitriol from candidates like Donald J. Trump, who has called for a ban on immigration by Muslims and a national registry of Muslims in the United States.
“We’re seeing these stereotypes and derogative statements become part of the political discourse,” said Brian Levin, the director of the Center for the Study of Hate and Extremism at the San Bernardino campus. “The bottom line is we’re talking about a significant increase in these types of hate crimes.”
He said that the frequency of anti-Muslim violence appeared to have increased immediately after some of Mr. Trump’s most incendiary comments.
The latest major episode of anti-Muslim violence came last weekend, when an arsonist on a motorcycle started a fire that engulfed the Islamic Center of Fort Pierce, Fla., where Omar Mateen — the gunman in the June massacre at the Pulse nightclub in Orlando — had sometimes prayed.
The police, who called the attack “a terrible tragedy” for the community, arrested a local man who had criticized Islam in social media postings.
The arson, along with an earlier assault on a congregant outside the mosque and other episodes there, has left worshipers scared, said Mohammed Malik, 43, a businessman who has attended the mosque for nearly a decade.
“There is a lot of negative rhetoric,” he said. “The negative rhetoric is causing the hate, and in turn the hate is causing the violent acts.”
The new study from Mr. Levin’s nonpartisan group, based on official police reports in 20 states, estimated that there were about 260 hate crimes against Muslims nationwide in 2015.
That was the most since the record 481 do ented hate crimes against Muslims in 2001, when the Sept. 11 attacks set off waves of crimes targeting Muslims and Middle Easterners, Mr. Levin said. The huge increase last year was also the biggest annual rise since 2001, he said.
The rise came even as hate crimes against almost all other groups — including blacks, Hispanics, Jews, gays and whites — either declined or increased only slightly, his study found. One exception was hate crimes against transgender people, which rose about 40 percent.
The statistics almost certainly understate the extent of the problem, researchers say, because victims are often reluctant to report attacks for fear of inflaming community tensions, and because it is sometimes difficult for investigators to establish that religious, ethnic or racial hatred was a cause.
In the killing last year of three Muslim students in Chapel Hill, N.C., for instance, the authorities did not bring hate crime charges against a neighbor who is charged with murdering them, despite calls from Muslims who said there were religious overtones to the violence. The police said that a parking dispute, not bigotry, may have led to the killings.
Sometimes, the evidence is more clear-cut.
“I hate ISLAM!” a former Marine named Ted Hakey Jr. wrote to a friend on Facebook after last November’s terrorist attacks in Paris. Hours later, in a drunken rampage, he fired a high-powered rifle four times into the mosque next door to his Connecticut home.
Last month, an apologetic Mr. Hakey began a six-month prison sentence after pleading guilty to a hate crime charge.
In Brooklyn, two women out walking their children in strollers were attacked this month, the police said, by a woman who screamed anti-Muslim obscenities and tried to rip off their traditional veils. And in Queens, a man was beaten in April by three strangers who shouted “ISIS, ISIS.”
In Minneapolis, a man shouting obscenities about Islam shot two Muslim men in traditional religious garb in June, the authorities said.
In St. Louis, a man was arrested in February after the police said he pointed a gun at a Muslim family shopping on his block and told them they “all should die.”
Last month, an imam in Queens and his assistant were shot and killed execution-style on the sidewalk. The authorities have charged a 35-year-old man in the attack but have not determined a motive or whether it should be treated as a hate crime.
The increase in reports of apparent hate crimes has worried Justice Department officials.
“We saw it after 9/11, and we continue to see an uptick in allegations of hate-related incidents today following the tragic events over the past year,” said Vanita Gupta, who leads the Justice Department’s civil rights division.
“We see criminal threats against mosques; harassment in schools; and reports of violence targeting Muslim-Americans, Sikhs, people of Arab or South-Asian descent and people perceived to be members of these groups,” Ms. Gupta said.
The Justice Department has moved to draw public attention to the problem and marshal resources to combat it as part of a broader effort against religious discrimination.
A number of experts in hate crimes said they were concerned that Mr. Trump’s vitriol may have legitimized threatening or even violent conduct by a small fringe of his supporters.
In a few cases, people accused of hate crimes against Muslims and others have even cited Mr. Trump.
The police here in Washington released a videotape in May of a woman who reportedly poured liquid on a Muslim woman after berating Islam and declaring that she was going to vote for Mr. Trump so that he could “send you all back where you came from.”
On Thursday, Hillary Clinton charged that Mr. Trump had “incited violence” in a campaign marked by “bigotry” and “hatred.”
Mr. Trump’s supporters say that he has never endorsed violence against any minorities, and some conservatives have challenged data showing an increase in violence against American Muslims as a creation of liberal-leaning researchers.
Mr. Trump has said he is not responsible for any violence by his supporters.
“They’re not angry about something I’m saying,” he said on “Meet the Press” in March. “I’m just a messenger. The people are angry about the fact that, for 12 years, the workers in this country haven’t had a pay increase.”
James Nolan, a former F.B.I. crime analyst who teaches about hate crimes at West Virginia University, said that the data seemed to show “a real e” in hate crimes against American Muslims, caused in part by candidates’ “raising the specter that radical Islam is at our doorstep.”
Mark Potok, a senior fellow at the Southern Poverty Law Center, which monitors hate groups and extremism, went further.
“I don’t have the slightest doubt that Trump’s campaign rhetoric has played a big part” in the rising attacks, he said.
Jews still have more hate crimes committed against them, where is your outrage?
It's possible to be outraged by both, but this is a thread about Muslims.
I mean, do you really want to start a "But what about []?" line of argument, because we could just start posting every crime committed by gun owners.
Conservative Islam of the type practiced in many ME countries is completely anti thetical to the western ideal of a secular democratic republic, at least on paper (we are only barely getting beyond laughable in that department). Christianity suffers the exact same pitfalls; the difference is, secular influences and the love of country (and money) have muddied the waters of this side of the Dardanelles for hundreds of years now. If you can imagine plopping the denizens and culture of the Holy Roman Empire of the Dark Ages into today's west, no doubt those "Christians" would be just as jolted by the culture shock and just as averse to the way we treat women, allow "pagans" the same rights as believers, guarantee free speech and votes for people other than baptized property owners, etc.
Dare I say a holy war or 'crusade' might even be called for..
Last edited by z0sa; 09-18-2016 at 04:22 PM.
Splits is not outraged by both.
You'd be called a racist for posting gun crime stats.
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