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  • Rex Ryan

    3 17.65%
  • Chuck Pagano

    3 17.65%
  • Mike McCoy

    1 5.88%
  • 8-8 Fisher

    6 35.29%
  • Other

    4 23.53%
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  1. #26
    Millennial Messiah UNT Eagles 2016's Avatar
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    We're not counting backups, otherwise every starter is above average
    This

    top 20 is still above average.
    No particular order --


    Brady
    Rodgers
    Newton
    Wilson
    Roethlisberger
    Palmer
    Brees
    Flacco
    Manning
    Romo/Prescott
    Cutler
    Carr
    Fitzpatrick
    Dalton
    Smith
    Rivers
    Ryan
    Stafford
    Cousins
    Luck


    That's 20 names off the top of my head that are better than Taylor, and I'm sure there are others

  2. #27
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    Hopefully Bradley. Defensive coach with the worst defense in his tenure as HC.

    No question Gus Bradley is the worst coach in the league. This mother er can't even get his name right. Real name: Paul Casey
    Last edited by RGMCSE; 09-13-2016 at 11:02 PM.

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  4. #29
    Allenhu Joshbar DeadlyDynasty's Avatar
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    How does Marvin Lewis keep a job?

  5. #30
    Millennial Messiah UNT Eagles 2016's Avatar
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    How does Marvin Lewis keep a job?
    He coaches a small market team who seems to pull off the weirdest, most grinding victories. Like the one last week. Up until the playoffs, that is, when his team consistently folds like a poker player with seven-deuce in the hole.

  6. #31
    BUSsell Will Spur-Addict's Avatar
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    His teams make the playoffs.

  7. #32
    Allenhu Joshbar DeadlyDynasty's Avatar
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    His teams make the playoffs.
    His teams are loaded to the gills with talent, too. 0-7 in the playoffs--and let's be honest--only last year's loss to the Steelers was compe ive out of those 7 games. His two disciples (Mike Zimmer and Jay Gruden) just made the playoffs with significantly lesser squads, and I seriously doubt they'll be afforded the leeway Marvin Lewis is.

  8. #33
    Savvy Veteran spurraider21's Avatar
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    His teams are loaded to the gills with talent, too. 0-7 in the playoffs--and let's be honest--only last year's loss to the Steelers was compe ive out of those 7 games. His two disciples (Mike Zimmer and Jay Gruden) just made the playoffs with significantly lesser squads, and I seriously doubt they'll be afforded the leeway Marvin Lewis is.
    lewis is also pretty heavily involved in personnel matters which helps them get that stacked roster... you really think their owner does all that on his own? (they dont have a formal GM)

    lets see if jay gruden can make his team perennially compe ive like lewis has with cinci

  9. #34
    BUSsell Will Spur-Addict's Avatar
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    His teams are loaded to the gills with talent, too. 0-7 in the playoffs--and let's be honest--only last year's loss to the Steelers was compe ive out of those 7 games. His two disciples (Mike Zimmer and Jay Gruden) just made the playoffs with significantly lesser squads, and I seriously doubt they'll be afforded the leeway Marvin Lewis is.
    Although good points, I don't think they are relevant because the compare and contrast comes with the rest of the league. They've made the playoffs five out of the last six years, while there are teams that haven't made the playoffs in 16, 13, 13, 11, 8, 8, 7, 7, 5, and 5. That's basically a third of the league. I'm sure Buffalo would love to have a guy that brings that consistency. Especially with their new ownership looking to make things happen.

  10. #35
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    How does Marvin Lewis keep a job?
    I think it's because he keeps pointing to Fisher and saying "See?"

  11. #36
    Allenhu Joshbar DeadlyDynasty's Avatar
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    If by compe ive you mean perennial first-round fodder, then yeah--congratulations to him for accomplishing less than Norv Turner. It'd be one thing if he just got unlucky and kept drawing monster teams in the playoffs, but outside of 2005 that's not the case. He loses to other pretenders:

    2005: Steelers (blew a 10-pt lead at home)
    2009: Mark Sanchez and the Jets (Home)
    2011: T.J. Yates and the Texans
    2012: Matt Schaub and the Texans
    2013: Chargers (at home)
    2014: Colts
    2015: Steelers (at home)
    2016: Probably the Chiefs or Raiders

  12. #37
    Allenhu Joshbar DeadlyDynasty's Avatar
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    Although good points, I don't think they are relevant because the compare and contrast comes with the rest of the league. They've made the playoffs five out of the last six years, while there are teams that haven't made the playoffs in 16, 13, 13, 11, 8, 8, 7, 7, 5, and 5. That's basically a third of the league. I'm sure Buffalo would love to have a guy that brings that consistency. Especially with their new ownership looking to make things happen.
    It's an uneasy relationship where you're married to mediocrity. Yeah, I would love the Bills to make the playoffs, but not if the alternative is being stuck in purgatory. All or nothing, tbh.

  13. #38
    BUSsell Will Spur-Addict's Avatar
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    I could care less about playoff compe iveness in regards to this discussion. You seem to be fixated on it, and for good reason I guess because when you take a broader look at the rest of the league, there are numerous teams that would rather have him than what they have. Obviously, you'd want the more upper-echelon coaching talent, but there is only so many of those guys to go around.

    Additionally, when you take into account their own history, it further hammers home the point. Before he came on the scene in 03, they hadn't made a PS appearance in 1991. It took him three years to make the playoffs. There was a few years missed, then the consistency we just referred to. If you said to me that there was a big name coach out there that wanted to take over the program that is notably better than him, then I'd say sure, have at it, it's time for Marvin to go.

  14. #39
    BUSsell Will Spur-Addict's Avatar
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    It's an uneasy relationship where you're married to mediocrity. Yeah, I would love the Bills to make the playoffs, but not if the alternative is being stuck in purgatory. All or nothing, tbh.
    Fair enough. But from a business perspective, being an owner, perhaps you kind of want to give your fans some hope.

  15. #40
    Savvy Veteran spurraider21's Avatar
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    If by compe ive you mean perennial first-round fodder, then yeah--congratulations to him for accomplishing less than Norv Turner. It'd be one thing if he just got unlucky and kept drawing monster teams in the playoffs, but outside of 2005 that's not the case. He loses to other pretenders:

    2005: Steelers (blew a 10-pt lead at home)
    2009: Mark Sanchez and the Jets (Home)
    2011: T.J. Yates and the Texans
    2012: Matt Schaub and the Texans
    2013: Chargers (at home)
    2014: Colts
    2015: Steelers (at home)
    2016: Probably the Chiefs or Raiders
    2005 was when palmer blew his knee out after his first attempt of the game ... and those steelers went on to win the superbowl. the most damning of those losses was to Yates, but in fairness Dalton has been a big game disaster with remarkable consistency. his career passer rating in the postseason is below 60 . and in 2015 they were going with mccarron in the one year dalton actually looked like he had taken the next step

    lewis isn't some mystically great coach, but he's still one of the better ones around, and firing him "just cause" when there are no obvious alternatives would be a shortsighted, losing move

  16. #41
    Allenhu Joshbar DeadlyDynasty's Avatar
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    I could care less about playoff compe iveness in regards to this discussion. You seem to be fixated on it, and for good reason I guess because when you take a broader look at the rest of the league, there are numerous teams that would rather have him than what they have. Obviously, you'd want the more upper-echelon coaching talent, but there is only so many of those guys to go around.

    Additionally, when you take into account their own history, it further hammers home the point. Before he came on the scene in 03, they hadn't made a PS appearance in 1991. It took him three years to make the playoffs. There was a few years missed, then the consistency we just referred to. If you said to me that there was a big name coach out there that wanted to take over the program that is notably better than him, then I'd say sure, have at it, it's time for Marvin to go.
    Well, it's the crux of my argument/discussion. So he wins 9 to 11 games every regular season...Marty Schottenheimer would be proud. Dude, Tom Coughlin has five playoff appearances and 2 rings in the same span, yet he was pretty much forced to resign.

  17. #42
    BUSsell Will Spur-Addict's Avatar
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    Well, it's the crux of my argument/discussion. So he wins 9 to 11 games every regular season...Marty Schottenheimer would be proud. Dude, Tom Coughlin has five playoff appearances and 2 rings in the same span, yet he was pretty much forced to resign.
    There were reports of him losing the locker room, not to mention they went on a slide. 3 straight losing seasons. I'm not saying his previous years don't count, but when you're sliding you're sliding. Not to mention the Giants are in a large market and have a much better historical pedigree and expectations. Plus he had one of the better quarterbacks in the league at that point.

  18. #43
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    R-E-X-X REX REX REX REX REXX

  19. #44
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    I think it's because he keeps pointing to Fisher and saying "See?"
    Or he points to David Shula and Bruce Coslet and says, "Want to go back to that?"

  20. #45
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    Bills just fired their offensive cordinator.


    This is going to get ugly. 0-2 and next up Arizona/NE....ouch~~~

  21. #46
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    Hopefully Garrett, tbh...
    It won't matter. Jerry won't hire a coach that won't take orders from him. So they could bring in the greatest coach of all time, Pegasus Rasterclack, and he'd still be limited by Jerry.

  22. #47
    BUSsell Will Spur-Addict's Avatar
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    Damage control by Rex. Yes, your defense (which is your calling card) gets annihilated and the response is to fire the offensive coordinator who made changes that resulted in tangible progress in a matter of days. An offense that put up 393 yards and 24 points. Unlike the defense which got substantially worse the following week outside of a fortunate TD. They allowed a 100 yard rusher who also had 3 TD's. They almost surrendered 100 yards to three different receivers, as Enunwa had 92 yards. I'm not advocating for anyone to lose their job because that's just kind of ed up, but you don't do this when you are responsible.

    The niners game isn't a slam-dunk, and the Dolphins are compe ive as they just took a projected playoff team down to the wire on the road. Rams look like a mess so who knows, although it has only been one week. And obviously the next two are rough. The new ownership in Buffalo is going to want results, they're not some crotchety old cheap guy who is pinching pennies and couldn't care less. Rex is in trouble

  23. #48
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    It won't matter. Jerry won't hire a coach that won't take orders from him. So they could bring in the greatest coach of all time, Pegasus Rasterclack, and he'd still be limited by Jerry.
    Ol' Pegasus. What he run in the 200?

  24. #49
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    Bills just fired their offensive cordinator.


    This is going to get ugly. 0-2 and next up Arizona/NE....ouch~~~
    They might beat AZ in Buffalo... AZ looks awful

  25. #50
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    at this point it seems a given that rex ryan is #1

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