76ers: Woj: Philly to trade Okafor or Noel

[Chinook]

Nothing against you but your posts are pretty ing exhausting

That's all.

#EssayGirl

[SAGirl]

Nothing against you but your posts are pretty ing exhausting

That's all.

It's my thing. lol

[SAGirl]

#EssayGirl

I love it. Would change my nickname...

[Chinook]

It's my thing. lol

Keep it up. We need as much earnest discussion to cut the mounds of on this forum, even if you are a bigger Anderson homer than Kyle himself.

[SAGirl]

Keep it up. We need as much earnest discussion to cut the mounds of on this forum, even if you are a bigger Anderson homer than Kyle himself.

Actually the more trolling against him the longer my essays. You would think the guys would surrender, yield and raise the white flag. lol


Edit: Actually we need to win that championship. Only way to get Tony retired per himself, plus last one for MAnu would endear him to Nono eventually, you know once he had about 3 or 4 celebratory drinks at least. Trolling won't stop. Heck Manu and Tony himself HoF players get trolled among the old fans themselves ans I don't care about their feuds but they still bring old stuff from 10 years ago up, Ppl troll Kawhi. It's kind of the nature if being a Spur that they will get trolled. But since the guy is likely to get better bc he's young and is solid already, I am confident I picked a good fandom club.

[140]

Take this upstairs

[Chinook]

Take this upstairs

Pretty sure this whole site is called Spurstalk, guey.

[StrengthAndHonor]

Pretty sure this whole site is called Spurstalk, guey.

Ethered

[Killakobe81]

Pretty sure this whole site is called Spurstalk, guey.

Nook with the reminder ...

[Brazil]

And Anderson will need to have the ball in his hands a lot, too. A good deal of that will by iso plays, but he can all both run the PnR and screen for it.

In the same way that Pop made it clear that Kawhi needed to take and fill the role as primary scorer for the starting unit, so too does he need to do that with Anderson.

[Chinook]

You got a better option? As SAG pointed out in one of her latest dissertations, Anderson is the most efficient one-one-one scorer on the team, though on a limited rate. With TP and Manu getting too old to rely on them doing it, what's the issue with Pop doing whatever he has to to put Kyle in that summer-league mentality?

[Brazil]

You got a better option? As SAG pointed out in one of her latest dissertations, Anderson is the most efficient one-one-one scorer on the team, though on a limited rate. With TP and Manu getting too old to rely on them doing it, what's the issue with Pop doing whatever he has to to put Kyle in that summer-league mentality?

being the most efficient one on one on limited touches with Manu carrying attention is one thing doing it while being the go to guy of the bench is another... I do hope this second unit will be all but iso plays ffs... and before him I'd rather die trusting Patty, Lee or a 74 y/o Manu than Kyle ing Anderson

[Chinook]

being the most efficient one on one on limited touches with Manu carrying attention is one thing doing it while being the go to guy of the bench is another... I do hope this second unit will be all but iso plays ffs... and before him I'd rather die trusting Patty, Lee or a 74 y/o Manu than Kyle ing Anderson

Spurs aren't going to win by simply trusting old guys. They've never won like that. They've always needed young guys and guys in their prime to step up. Without Anderson or another young player taking that next step, the Spurs are closer to 2010 than they are to 2012, closer to 2001 than 2003.

And I don't think it's accurate to say that Anderson's ability to score one-on-one has been benefiting from playing with Manu at all. It's very much the opposite. Now if Patty is back, and the Spurs run the types of plays that give him good touches, that's great. But he's the only bench guy who's any type of alternative.

[Brazil]

Spurs aren't going to win by simply trusting old guys. They've never won like that. They've always needed young guys and guys in their prime to step up. Without Anderson or another young player taking that next step, the Spurs are closer to 2010 than they are to 2012, closer to 2001 than 2003.

And I don't think it's accurate to say that Anderson's ability to score one-on-one has been benefiting from playing with Manu at all. It's very much the opposite. Now if Patty is back, and the Spurs run the types of plays that give him good touches, that's great. But he's the only bench guy who's any type of alternative.

Patty is 27

Spurs have Patty, Lee and Manu even a 37 y/o Manu off the bench so it's a wild guess saying Anderson will be the go to guy of the bench

I don't think it is also accurate to take his one on one scoring during limited touches to assume he is capable doing that on the regular especially with his release

[Brazil]

don't get me wrong I do wish he is capable of taking the next step I just don't think he is capable

[SAGirl]

being the most efficient one on one on limited touches with Manu carrying attention is one thing doing it while being the go to guy of the bench is another... I do hope this second unit will be all but iso plays ffs... and before him I'd rather die trusting Patty, Lee or a 74 y/o Manu than Kyle ing Anderson

You forget he had all his best games without Manu Pal!
I would say sharing the court with Manu was actually detrimental as he's a playmaker at heart who is selective picking his spots and he was reduced to a corner shooter whenever he shared the court with Manu. Not even putting that on Manu. That is on Pop. He's the one who decides who gets the ball and what they run.

I will enjoy laughing Brazil bc you keep sinking in this hole. lol I guess everyone is en led to their opinion but sometimes you yap and you don't even know what you are talking about.

[SAGirl]

Spurs aren't going to win by simply trusting old guys. They've never won like that. They've always needed young guys and guys in their prime to step up. Without Anderson or another young player taking that next step, the Spurs are closer to 2010 than they are to 2012, closer to 2001 than 2003.

And I don't think it's accurate to say that Anderson's ability to score one-on-one has been benefiting from playing with Manu at all. It's very much the opposite. Now if Patty is back, and the Spurs run the types of plays that give him good touches, that's great. But he's the only bench guy who's any type of alternative.

What I bolded is exactly the truth. It's like Brazil doesn't even watch this team TBH. He only watches reruns of Tony's 2007 finals MVP run and highlights of his 2013 season apparently. One thing is trolling another is coming off as not even knowing what the heck he is yapping on about.

[SAGirl]

Patty is 27

Spurs have Patty, Lee and Manu even a 37 y/o Manu off the bench so it's a wild guess saying Anderson will be the go to guy of the bench

I don't think it is also accurate to take his one on one scoring during limited touches to assume he is capable doing that on the regular especially with his release

Out of that whole crew he's the only one capable of taking his game up a notch bc he was 22 this past season basically a college senior getting his first real playing time in the rotation. All those guys are actually on the decline. We are lucky if Manu doesn't fall off a cliff like Tim did his last season bc he's that old. Patty is the one in his prime and a guy one can expect to be consistent and replicate prior seasons, but he's capped up in his development. Spurs only upside in their bench right now is Kyle. (They have some other nice interesting prospects but they are rookies, one is super young and has a whole lot to learn and the other who can realistically get minutes is also a rookie and has a unidimensional game.)

[SAGirl]

Take this upstairs

this thread had already veered very far away from Noel and Okafor a long time agoooooooooo

Not like you guys stay on topic either.

[Brazil]

You forget he had all his best games without Manu Pal!
I would say sharing the court with Manu was actually detrimental as he's a playmaker at heart who is selective picking his spots and he was reduced to a corner shooter whenever he shared the court with Manu. Not even putting that on Manu. That is on Pop. He's the one who decides who gets the ball and what they run.

I will enjoy laughing Brazil bc you keep sinking in this hole. lol I guess everyone is en led to their opinion but sometimes you yap and you don't even know what you are talking about.

Again you don't understand difference between doing good on short stretches and doing good consistently. Let's hope you will enjoy laughing indeed, that would be a good news for the Spurs. So far I'm the one laughing at you because you are a player fan who would stop watching Spurs in case your boy is traded and last POs let's be honest he has been putrid on offense, his shooting was simply atrocious. For those 10 games he shot worst than Kobe Bryant, that's saying something

Oh and I love seeing people that started watching basketball 3 years ago going to the road of you don't watch games and focus on 2007 run... shhhh girl

[Chinook]

Patty is 27

Spurs have Patty, Lee and Manu even a 37 y/o Manu off the bench so it's a wild guess saying Anderson will be the go to guy of the bench

I don't think it is also accurate to take his one on one scoring during limited touches to assume he is capable doing that on the regular especially with his release

Yes, but it's (only) an opinion to say he SHOULD be the given the opportunity to fill that role. There's a big difference between believing that Pop would go in a different direction and saying that almost anyone is a better choice to develop into a bench focal point than Kyle. The fact that he did well in limited touches is reason to give him more. You're right that it's not proof of how well he'd do if given the green light, but it's damned sure reason to find out. To that end, Pop's job is to get Anderson to stop deferring to Manu. He has to get that Murray mentality going so that he gives his best attempt. if that doesn't work, it just doesn't. But it's worth the risk.

And his release won't hurt him one-on-one. He's far too big for that. It's only a question when he's spacing the floor. When he has the ball, he's able to get his shot whenever he wants, against anybody except maybe huge freaks like Gobert and McGee.

[TDMVPDPOY]

i still take KA over current porker....his shot is automatic, problem is clown hesitates what to do with t he ball when he receives it, fearing a mistake move means straight to the bench....

[Chinook]

What I bolded is exactly the truth. It's like Brazil doesn't even watch this team TBH. He only watches reruns of Tony's 2007 finals MVP run and highlights of his 2013 season apparently. One thing is trolling another is coming off as not even knowing what the heck he is yapping on about.

Yours and Brazil's feud is so strange. He's a good dude. I do think is sort of irrationally dislikes Anderson, but that's whatevs. We all have our favorites, and except for super classy posters like BillMc , we all have our least favorites.

[TheGreatYacht]

I'd trade fathead for a white American player, tbh

[Brazil]

Yes, but it's (only) an opinion to say he SHOULD be the given the opportunity to fill that role. There's a big difference between believing that Pop would go in a different direction and saying that almost anyone is a better choice to develop into a bench focal point than Kyle. The fact that he did well in limited touches is reason to give him more. You're right that it's not proof of how well he'd do if given the green light, but it's damned sure reason to find out. To that end, Pop's job is to get Anderson to stop deferring to Manu. He has to get that Murray mentality going so that he gives his best attempt. if that doesn't work, it just doesn't. But it's worth the risk.

that's a post I can agree with tbh

And his release won't hurt him one-on-one. He's far too big for that. It's only a question when he's spacing the floor. When he has the ball, he's able to get his shot whenever he wants, against anybody except maybe huge freaks like Gobert and McGee.

His release is an overall issue, your "only" is selling it short, that's a problem. To help the team out he indeed needs to space the floor with some 3s here and there. He is taking very few and the few he is taking it is below 1 out 3. He is too hesitant. He has no business playing SFs, too slow so he has to play dat PF position but he is lacking strenght which would put him in check against most starting PFs except some SFs playing PF for their team.

I see him as a potentially good role player off the bench no more no less, I don't see him with the potential to lead the bench offensively on a contender team.

For the rest I'm quite astonished by the amount of hype and attention he is receiving by ST for a very quiet 2 first years with the Spurs.