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Just out of curiosity, what exactly do you mean by that?
Agree, Anderson has much higher potential than Cojo. Cojo had athleticism, but it wasn't elite level. Anderson, if he starts playing like Tony Parker, could become unguardable.
Just out of curiosity, what exactly do you mean by that?
I'd give fathead and Manure up for a retired Derek Fisher. Of course I'd take Oseph back
Trade Porker for CJ
I don't know exactly what you mean since Tony relied a lot in speed and Kyle relies on size, length and being a saavy player.
Really he doesn't remind me of anyone in the current Spurs. He reminded me most of Boris than anyone else bc both are point forwards who are sometimes too unselfish. They are both capable of finding teammates in good spots all the time, but also can get their own shots all the time and maybe they preferred to pass too much and have to be prodded by Pop to increase their aggressiveness. At times they were the best scoring options and still looked to set up others. That is how Kyle reminds me of Boris. However, they each get their things done differently. Kyle plays off the dribble a lot, while the Boris of late was a post up player.
I think Kyle is unique. We are probably witnessing a unique talent who is still not in his prime. He could potentially be very dangerous if he develops that 3 pt shooting bc he can make his shots off the dribble and also pass really well. I don't know if that latter part is what you meant comparing him to Tony. (or if you were just trolling TBH). Either way.
WTF are you SMOKING?I don't know exactly what you mean since Tony relied a lot in speed and Kyle relies on size, length and being a saavy player.
Really he doesn't remind me of anyone in the current Spurs. He reminded me most of Boris than anyone else bc both are point forwards who are sometimes too unselfish. They are both capable of finding teammates in good spots all the time, but also can get their own shots all the time and maybe they preferred to pass too much and have to be prodded by Pop to increase their aggressiveness. At times they were the best scoring options and still looked to set up others. That is how Kyle reminds me of Boris. However, they each get their things done differently. Kyle plays off the dribble a lot, while the Boris of late was a post up player.
I think Kyle is unique. We are probably witnessing a unique talent who is still not in his prime. He could potentially be very dangerous if he develops that 3 pt shooting bc he can make his shots off the dribble and also pass really well. I don't know if that latter part is what you meant comparing him to Tony. (or if you were just trolling TBH). Either way.
Piece of garbage.
daboom you don't need to quote me I don't read a single thing from you.
What I mean by playing like Parker is that Parker keeps probing the defense looking for opportunities and continuing to dribble. He dribbles to a spot, sees the defense and then dribbles again to another spot. It's that dribbling that a lot of ST folks hate so much. With a 6'9" player that doesn't stop dribbling, it can be deadly effective. With Parker however, the constant resets can be problematic.I don't know exactly what you mean since Tony relied a lot in speed and Kyle relies on size, length and being a saavy player.
Really he doesn't remind me of anyone in the current Spurs. He reminded me most of Boris than anyone else bc both are point forwards who are sometimes too unselfish. They are both capable of finding teammates in good spots all the time, but also can get their own shots all the time and maybe they preferred to pass too much and have to be prodded by Pop to increase their aggressiveness. At times they were the best scoring options and still looked to set up others. That is how Kyle reminds me of Boris. However, they each get their things done differently. Kyle plays off the dribble a lot, while the Boris of late was a post up player.
I think Kyle is unique. We are probably witnessing a unique talent who is still not in his prime. He could potentially be very dangerous if he develops that 3 pt shooting bc he can make his shots off the dribble and also pass really well. I don't know if that latter part is what you meant comparing him to Tony. (or if you were just trolling TBH). Either way.
I see what you mean now. He does probe when he has the ball and is capable of unleashing crossovers to get by guys which really he's so big and has such long steps, he's able to get where he wants. The good thing is that he makes decisions a lot quicker than Tony. Doesn't hold on to the ball that much and is quick to pass if what he was looking for isn't there. Tony holds on to reset too much. We shall see what's in store for next season. I hope he takes a step in the eight direction with his aggressiveness. Spurs need him.
sure... smh
in what kind of universe do you live ?
Cory at 22: 14 mpg / 5 ppg / 1,7 apg / 0,6 tov / 1,6 rpg. shooting .475, efg .498. PER 14,7
Fathead at 22: 16 mpg / 4,5 ppg / 1,6 apg / 0,8 tov / 3,1 rpg. shooting .468, efg .488. PER 12,9
so yeah with 2 minutes less per game Cory at 22 was better in all except reboundsbut Anderson has been a better player ? based on what ? your own way to watch games ?
I'd say Anderson has probably a higher ceiling but let's stop the non sense about Anderson has been better at same age or he is going to be a better player (say who ?). He can potentially be a better player
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Kyle is so unique
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I called kyle currently was a role playet off the bench and she said i was trolling and got too emotional
She is pushing homerism to a new ST level tbh
Duncan228 was probably less of an homer than her that's saying something
Bejeeesus in exaggeration dude. Ignoring someone's trolling attempts are not getting emotional. You trolling is just per par here. Ignoring it is just common sense.
I called kyle currently was a role playet off the bench and she said i was trolling and got too emotional
I only bring my level of homerism to the level of trolling and haterims around here. It ain't going to change either.She is pushing homerism to a new ST level tbh
Duncan228 was probably less of an homer than her that's saying something
Mills was horrible last year and the year before to be fair, so he is better than Mills as of right now.
It is evident to the one who knows what to look for or it is not. You do admit Anderson has a higher ceiling. I don't want to waste my time with "essays" bc I have talked about this somewhere else and it will be lost on you anyways.sure... smh
in what kind of universe do you live ?
Cory at 22: 14 mpg / 5 ppg / 1,7 apg / 0,6 tov / 1,6 rpg. shooting .475, efg .498. PER 14,7
Fathead at 22: 16 mpg / 4,5 ppg / 1,6 apg / 0,8 tov / 3,1 rpg. shooting .468, efg .488. PER 12,9
so yeah with 2 minutes less per game Cory at 22 was better in all except rebounds
I'd say Anderson has probably a higher ceiling but let's stop the non sense about Anderson has been better at same age or he is going to be a better player (say who ?). He can potentially be a better player
She's just delusional bro. I've been one of the very few kyle supporters on this forum but the moment i said he was a role player she started trowing tantrums and accusing that specific post ad trollingShe is pushing homerism to a new ST level tbh
Duncan228 was probably less of an homer than her that's saying something
I mean the girl barely knows what opportunities arise from decent rollman. I believe she's a new avid fan so shes only learning the game of badketball
??? We need PG's in the worst way man. Parker is slowing down a lot and played all summer and we have no real legit back up PG. Much bigger need?
She's just delusional bro. I've been one of the very few kyle supporters on this forum but the moment i said he was a role player she started trowing tantrums and accusing that specific post ad trolling
I mean the girl barely knows what opportunities arise from decent rollman. I believe she's a new avid fan so shes only learning the game of badketball
and will stop here bc you have no end. There is no end to the depths of your trolling.
Cory would not start over Tony. He'd be back in the rotation behind everyone else, maybe wasted. Pop would still play Mills and Manu. Meanwhile you lost a guy that played 3 positions last year, filling in holes and averaged 20 minutes for the team in the second part of the season and are left to replace him with rookies. Maybe that is what Chinook meant?
That is true but we need a back up who can run the O when he is out. Patty is a 2 in a 1's body. We need a successor as well, maybe Murray will fit that? I hope he is the answer and they groom him. I totally forgot about him when I wrote that but a vet to run the back up 1 would not be a bad idea while this takes place. Manu is a year older and slower so I love the guy but how much does he realistically have left? Mills as I said a 2 in a 1 body, plus he needs to find his talent again which is his shot! I hope it all plays out but there is ? at the PG too on this team.
BTW good point you brought up there, you are right on losing the guy who could do 3 positions. Kyle might be that guy or might not, this season will tell a lot on that end. I also hope Simmons can break out some, I know he is not a PG or SF but from the wing if he can add some scoring backing up DG that would be a huge bonus. My guys to look for this year are Anderson, Simmons and to a lesser extent the Sniper Bertans who they sorely need.
Anderson probably has more upside due to his diversity/size. CoJo was stuck behind TP & Patty. But we saw once he got more opportunity he took advantage and had some big games in the Playoffs for Toronto. Very good defender, controls the game well, and improved his jump shot. Also drives the ball well.
They both played similar minutes, but it seemed CoJo had more of an impact (KA 16MPG vs CJ 18MPG his last season) while he was out there. He had the advantage of being here 4 years, so he had more time to learn however. ***BTW, hopefully this is another case where you can see Pop knows what he is doing in terms of developing young guys, in case there's a reminder needed...***
This being Anderson's 3rd year, and assuming his minutes stay the same possibly go up by 2-4 mins per game, we'll see the impact he'll have . The opportunity is certainly there. They're 2 different types of players/positions, but we'll see what Anderson can do. With Diaw gone as the guy who (when he wanted) could score pretty much against most defenders, and involve others, and with Lee being older/new to the system, Anderson has a chance here to really make a big impact in terms of play making and controlling the flow of the game.
Probably better to revisit after Anderson's 3rd year if we want to really compare them... CoJo definetely improved big time on his way out, skill-wise and from a confidence standpoint. Hopefully Anderson does too
Nah. The Spurs don't need PGs. They need folks who can score one-on-one and initiate the offense. Cory, for the hype he's getting, is more of an energy/caretaker type. Look at his Toronto stats: http://www.basketball-reference.com/...josepco01.html They are worse than they were his last two years in SA.
Don't get me wrong, I think Cory's a better, more actualized player now than he was with the Spurs. But his 12pp36 on 51.2 TS% isn't exactly the missing link here.
The Spurs would be GS by being bigger than them, not by having a slightly better guard than Parker.
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