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You're embarrassing yourself. You already took the beating, just tuck your tail between your legs and go hide.
As ya all can see, yep, another bad case of Avanteitist there, yep.....OWNED~~~~~~~
Johnsmith..I think I'll go hang out on a football forum and call Avante a rapist (too stupid to realize what the legal age of consent was over there). I know he isn't and what his stance on that is but being I'm a jerk, hey what can I say, yep, I;m a prick.
You're embarrassing yourself. You already took the beating, just tuck your tail between your legs and go hide.
This is just too damn easy, hahahaha~~~~~~ Poor little guy and he's too damn stupid to see it, hahahahaha~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
100% OWNED~
Watch this, here he comes again I guarantee it. He belongs to Avante.
, I actually feel guilty working this freak this bad. Who goes on a football forum to talk about the this freak does, yep, a re .
Don't you guys get tired of talking about Avante, especially here on a football forum? I'm bored with Avante, talk football.
Last edited by Avante; 09-19-2016 at 01:18 PM.
If you include games going back to last year, Seattle has been pretty anemic on offense in 4 of their last 5 contests--and no, garbage time of the Carolina game doesn't count...it pays to be on a team where good things just happen to you (Blair Walsh shanking a chipshot fg, Kenny Stills dropping a sure-TD, etc), and you never have to face the music b/c of your enabling fanbase.
Seattle did have an impressive finish last year, winning 8 of their last 10 games. Let's be honest though, 5 of those 8 wins came against teams that were embarrassing last year (49ers twice, Ravens, Browns, and Cowboys). He did have 3 really good W's against Pit, at Minnesota, and at Arizona. At the same time, the defense was dominant in 7 of those 8 wins, with the Pittsburgh game being the only outlier. As HH alluded to, Russell Wilson is a front-running QB for the most part. He's been in 10 playoff games, and I can only think of 2 off the top of my head where he was a major factor in the outcome (3, if you count his impact on the outcome of the Patriots SB):
2012 against Atlanta: A loss, but he helped bring them back from 20 down to take a brief lead. btw, who did they beat in the first rd this year? I'm drawing a complete blank, must've been some team with no business being in the playoffs.
2013 against SF: The go-ahead TD pass on 4th down.
As for this year, Seattle will eventually figure it out. They should go at least 4-2 in their division (split with AZ), have home games remaining against the Bills and Eagles, and play the NFC South this year--where 3/4 teams don't even bother to field a defense. There's 10 wins to be had right there. I can't blame those who are skeptical though--especially when the likes of Jacoby Brissett and Blaine Gabbert have put up good #'s against the same compe ion.
In 2014, they scored 24 or more 11 times, in 2015 they went...If you include games going back to last year, Seattle has been pretty anemic on offense in 4 of their last 5 contests--and no, garbage time of the Carolina game doesn't count...it pays to be on a team where good things just happen to you (Blair Walsh shanking a chipshot fg, Kenny Stills dropping a sure-TD, etc), and you never have to face the music b/c of your enabling fanbase.
Seattle did have an impressive finish last year, winning 8 of their last 10 games. Let's be honest though, 5 of those 8 wins came against teams that were embarrassing last year (49ers twice, Ravens, Browns, and Cowboys). He did have 3 really good W's against Pit, at Minnesota, and at Arizona. At the same time, the defense was dominant in 7 of those 8 wins, with the Pittsburgh game being the only outlier. As HH alluded to, Russell Wilson is a front-running QB for the most part. He's been in 10 playoff games, and I can only think of 2 off the top of my head where he was a major factor in the outcome (3, if you count his impact on the outcome of the Patriots SB
2012 against Atlanta: A loss, but he helped bring them back from 20 down to take a brief lead. btw, who did they beat in the first rd this year? I'm drawing a complete blank, must've been some team with no business being in the playoffs.
2013 against SF: The go-ahead TD pass on 4th down.
As for this year, Seattle will eventually figure it out. They should go at least 4-2 in their division (split with AZ), have home games remaining against the Bills and Eagles, and play the NFC South this year--where 3/4 teams don't even bother to field a defense. There's 10 wins to be had right there. I can't blame those who are skeptical though--especially when the likes of Jacoby Brissett and Blaine Gabbert have put up good #'s against the same compe ion.
week
9...32
10....29
11...39
12...38
13...35
14...30
15...just 17
16...36
They'll be ok.
Funny thing in these Sept games is how quickly things change.
Jamesis Winston is here, he's going to be GREAT...after week one. Then in week two he stinks up the joint and it's.....crickets.
Ha~~~
Jags have arrived, they almost beat the Packers and should have, then in week two.....hahaha!!!
Slow down little people, ok? The last two seasons the Seahawks have started out...
2014..3-3
2015...2-4
And where did they end up?
2014...Superbowl
2015...11-5 with a playoff win, then on the road vs an undefeated Panthers team and lost 24-31. (great come back)
All we can really count on and know for sure is Andrew Luck will throw a lot of INT's.
Last edited by Avante; 09-19-2016 at 02:13 PM.
That's cool, but it still doesn't change the fact they have 15 total points against 2 teams thus far. Seattle won 8 playoff games in the Marshawn Lynch era (2010-2015). How many do you foresee them winning in the next five years? Their defense is still obviously very good, and Wilson is young...
In 2010 and 2011 the Seahawks went 7=9 and 7=9 with Lynch there, in 2012 when RW showed up 11-5, 2013 13-3 and won a SB. Pretty obvious what happened there.
I have no problems seeing them win another five/six playoff games. I sure in the don't get goofy after two to five weeks of a new season, I know better than that.
All it takes right now is one game to change everything in these Sept games, remember when the Chiefs kiilled the Pats in week 4 a few years back, TOM BRADY AND THE PATS ARE DONE....hahahaha~~~ All they did was win the SB.
The Seahawks know what they have to do to make the plaoffs, this isn't the NCAA where ya have to win every game.
Last edited by Avante; 09-19-2016 at 02:30 PM.
It was Lynch who beat the defending SB champs with the greatest postseason run in NFL history. So five/six games, huh? Noted, for future scoreboarding
Football Outsiders ranks the 1992 Seahawks as the worst offense in NFL history. In the first two games of that season, with Kelly Stouffer under center (widely considered one of the worst quarterbacks to ever see an NFL field), they put up 10 points and 391 yards.
In the first two games of this season, in an era where defense has pretty much been made illegal and the passing game has never been easier for quarterbacks, the 2016 Seahawks have put up 15 points and 658 yards. This, despite having a so-called elite franchise QB under center.
Boiled down, the difference between Struggle as the first option and Kelly Stouffer is less than a touchdown on the scoreboard and 267 yards. And the difference isn't even as significant as it looks once you factor in all the rule changes. The average NFL offense in 2015 put up 872 more yards and 66 more points than the average offense in 1992.
Food for thought for the Struggle apologists. Your boy is the new-age Kelly Stouffer.
As ya totally ignore 2010/2011 with Lynch...14-18, 2012/2013 with RW there 24-8.
Actually, the iconic run i just referenced came in 2010-2011.
How come you never ever get anything right ever?
It's 1934, the Pittsburg Pirates will score 51 points in 12 games.
In 1936 Philly scores 51 in 12 games also.
You have any idea how many times less than 70 points was scored in 12 game seasons?
Oh yes, a guy who started but 16 games in his entire NFL career is a great comparison for a guy who has played in more games than any QB in NFL history in his first 4 seasons and as won a SB and came within a yard of winning two.
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Dude, bone up on this stuff just a little bit, ok?
And when ya set a few NFL records, have the best first 4 seasons ever had by any QB, play in two Superbowls in your first three seasons and lead the NFL with a 110.1 QB rating in your 4th, AND...........MVP in the pro bowl, that's a so called franchise QB, hahahahahaha~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Dude, who has a better TD/INT ratio, how about a better career QB rating, won more games than RW in thier first 4 seasons, well? Come on shorty, who would that be?
Compare bench setter Aaron Rodgers, INT INT Peyton Manning, Joe Montana, Tom Brady to RW in their first 4 seasons, ok? Tell me what you see.
Last edited by Avante; 09-19-2016 at 03:05 PM.
Just tossing this out.
Just heard on ESPN how these teams tonight were trying to decide how to do the National Anthem, are you kidding me? Trying to figure out what to do for.......wow~~~~~~~~ Talk about a load of stupid bull , there it is.
A back up QB causing all this trouble, sheesh~~~~~~~
It's not my ranking. Go cry to Football Outsiders about it.
http://www.footballoutsiders.com/dvo...and-commentaryOf course, no discussion of 1992 is complete without a look at the mind-numbing offense of the 1992 Seattle Seahawks, which averaged only 8.8 points per game. The Seahawks' -45.9% offensive DVOA sets a new FO record, surpassing the 2005 San Francisco 49ers (-42.0%) as the worst offense we've ever tracked.
But fine. If you want to include statistics from before the merger or sixteen-game schedules, then the '92 Seahawks are "just" the worst offense of the modern era. Still not great company to be in by any means.
The numbers don't lie, Old got - and they're damning for Struggle Wilson.Oh yes, a guy who started but 16 games in his NFL career is a great comparison for a guy who has played in more games than any QB in NFL history in his first 4 seasons.
I see a game manager getting carried by Marshawn Lynch and his defense for four seasons and then putting up Kelly Stouffer numbers once it becomes his team.Compare bench setter Aaron Rodgers, INT INT Peyton Manning, Joe Montana, Tom Brady to RW in their first 4 seasons, ok? Tell me what you see.
Know your history guy before posting bull , you said nothing about 16 game seasons, you said ....in history.
How come you ALWAYS ignore...."ok ok so who had a better first 4 seasons than RW"....well? Come on little guy, who would that be and how many stud receivers has RW had in his career?
Being a know nothing rookie at this I can see why you don't get.....two games played. As you once again prove to everyone you don't understand NFL football and how it works.
Comparing Kelly Stouffer to Russell Wilson says it all about your.....DUH~~~~~~~
Here's another fun fact for the Struggle apologists. Through two weeks, the Seahawks' offense has put up 49 less yards than the Trevor Siemian-led Broncos, and 17 less yards than the CLEVELAND ING BROWNS. They've scored fewer points than the Jaguars, who were a garbage-time score away from being shut out yesterday, and the Bills, who just fired their offensive coordinator.
Of course, Struggle's not responsible for ALL of that. So let's just look at passing yards. Through two games, they've put up less of those than the Jets ( zpatrick), the Cowboys (rookie Dak Prescott), or the Vikings (Sam Bradford).
It's time to face facts: Struggle is not an elite quarterback. He is a game manager AT BEST who needs the most stacked supporting cast of his generation to be effective. Anything short of that, and Seattle might as well be trotting out Dan McGwire, Seneca Wallace or Charlie Whitehurst again.
What a rookie, wow~~~
You ever deal with realty?
When considering the totality of Russell Wilson's accomplishments, they truly are amazing. True, there are some QB's with more yards, or more TD's, etc., but Wilson is ranked in the top 5 or top 10 of a wide variety of stats over his first three years. One could easily say that overall, Wilson has had the best first three years of any QB in NFL history. Here are a few of his accomplishments:
- Wilson is the first QB in NFL history with a passer rating of over 95.0 in each of his first three seasons.
- Wilson has 24 games with a passer rating of 100+ in his first three seasons...more than any other QB in NFL history. Flacco, Marino, and Palmer are tied for second with 19.
- Wilson leads all QB’s in the NFL over the last 3 years with 10- 4th quarter comebacks and 15- game-winning drives. No other QB in NFL history has ever done this in their first 3 years.
- He is one of only five players with at least 20 touchdown passes in each of first three seasons.
- Wilson is the first and only QB in the Super Bowl era to have average yards per attempt of 7.6 or better in each of his first three seasons.
- Wilson’s career yards per passing attempt of 7.9 is fourth-best of all QB’s since 1951.
- Wilson is ranked #1 in career postseason yards per attempt. His career average of 9.01 (min. 200 pass attempts) is the highest in NFL history.
- Wilson is the only QB in NFL history to appear in two SB's in his first three seasons.
- Wilson holds the record for most passing yards in a playoff game by a rookie QB with 385 yards. The old record was set in 1937 by Sammy Baugh with 335 yards...that record stood for 75 years.
- Wilson is ranked at #2 in all-time career passer rating (min. 1200 attempts) with a 98.6. Only Aaron Rodgers has a higher career passer rating.
- Wilson's passer rating of 98.6 for a player’s first 3 years is the best in NFL history.
- Including postseason, Wilson's passer rating of 98.5 for a player's first three years is the best in NFL history.
- Wilson's postseason passer rating of 97.8 in his first three years is the best in NFL history.
- Wilson’s career postseason passer rating of 97.8 (min. 200 attempts) is the 5th best in NFL history.
- Wilson's TD% of 5.8% in his first three years is the 2nd highest in NFL history; only Dan Marino is higher with 6.9%.
- Wilson's INT% of 2.1% in his first three years is the lowest of any QB in NFL history.
- Wilson is ranked #2 all-time with a career TD to INT ratio of 2.77 (min. 1200 attempts) behind only Rodgers.
- Wilson is ranked #3 all-time with a career INT rate of only 2.1%, behind only Rodgers and Brady.
- Wilson is the first and only QB in NFL history to throw for 300+ yards and run for 100+ yards (313 & 106) in the same game...against the Rams on 10-19-14.
- Only one QB in NFL history had more than one season with more than 20 TD passes and 10 or fewer interceptions in his first three seasons: Wilson, who has had three such seasons.
- His 72 touchdowns are the seventh-most ever through a player’s first three seasons.
- Including the postseason, Wilson has 84 passing TD's in his first three seasons, 4th-most in NFL history.
- Including the postseason, Wilson has 97 passing and rushing TD's in his first three seasons, 3rd-most in NFL history.
- Wilson is ranked #12 all-time for most passing yards by a QB in his first three years with 9950 yards.
- Including the postseason, Wilson is ranked #5 all-time for passing yards by a QB in his first three years with 11770 yards.
- Wilson is ranked #5 all-time for most total yards (passing + rushing) by a QB in his first three years with 11827 yards.
- Including the postseason, Wilson is ranked #2 all-time for most total yards (passing and rushing) by a QB in his first three years with 13902 yards.
- Wilson has the 2nd highest career yards per attempt in SB history with 9.85 yards, behind only Terry Bradshaw.
- Wilson has the 3rd highest career passer rating in SB history with a 117.39, behind only Joe Montana and Jim Plunkett.
- Wilson has the 6th highest career completion % in SB history with 65.22%.
- Wilson has the 4th highest yards per attempt in a SB game with 11.76 yards in SB49.
- Wilson's 1,877 rushing yards is second-most by a QB in the modern era through three seasons behind Cam Newton's 2,032 yards.
- Including the postseason, Wilson has the most rushing yards for a QB in NFL history in his first three seasons with 2132 yards.
- Wilson led all NFL rushers in 2014 with an average of 7.2 yards per carry.
- Wilson has a record of having had a lead at some point in 56 straight games since 2012...the old record was 45 games...Also, in those 56 games, Wilson has never lost an NFL game by more than 9 points.
- Wilson has won 36 games in his first 3 seasons; three more than any other QB in NFL history.
- Including the postseason, Wilson has won 42 games in his first three seasons; 6 more than any other QB in NFL history.
Little man in 2015 he set this NFL record...4000/30/500 and led the NFL with his 110.1 QB rating.
Rookie, don't act stupid over....Sept games, ok?
Tell me rookie how many times did we see those words.....NFL HISTORY...mentioned above, well?
Never seen anyone as far gone as this little CN , he doesn't appear to have a clue about anything.
RW walks right in, beats out the guy who was suppose to be the QB, then precedes to do things in his next 4 seasons the NFL has never seen before and here's this CN idiot.......yes but in the first two games of 2016.......are you kidding me, hahahahahaha~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
RW left Wisconsin as the all time NCAA passing efficency leader.......ha~~~~~~~~~~
Last edited by Avante; 09-19-2016 at 03:56 PM.
^ He's no Cam Newton, though...
That should be obvious by all those NFL accomplishments/firsts. RW won his first SB, and when he did lose his second he lost with class. Newton lost his only SB shot then acted like a little about it.
Of course neither RW or Newton can compare to Kelly Stouffer,
CN, never run your mouth in Sept, ok rookie? How dumb can that be?
Pay attention son.
Things will change before week 17, ok rook? Honest they will, ok? In Sept ya be cool and keep your mouth shut, ok?
It's 2014, the Panthers are 7=9, then here comes 2015 and they go 15-1. Now think little guy, ok?
Last edited by Avante; 09-19-2016 at 03:57 PM.
Yet here you are, running your mouth in September. It's hilarious how badly you get triggered by anyone having different opinions than you. You sound like a college student who wants a safe space.
No , got. Notice how I wasn't projecting forward in any of my posts. I was only drawing conclusions based on the sample size that we have now.Things will change before week 17, ok rook?
If Struggle finally starts playing like the franchise QB he's been hyped up to be later in the season, than good for him. But right now, he and his offense are atrocious. And that's what this thread is about: how the Seahawks' offense looks right now at this point in the season.
If you don't want to read any opinions about football in September, then turn off the TV and stay away from the Internet. The rest of us will keep talking about the games we're watching.
You brought up history, not me. But if ya want to go there then ya can see how stupid it is trying to compare Kelly Stouffer to Russell Wilson, who has had the best first 4 seasons we have ever seen from any QB in that NFL history.Yet here you are, running your mouth in September. It's hilarious how badly you get triggered by anyone having different opinions than you. You sound like a college student who wants a safe space.
No , got. Notice how I wasn't projecting forward in any of my posts. I was only drawing conclusions based on the sample size that we have now.
If Struggle finally starts playing like the franchise QB he's been hyped up to be later in the season, than good for him. But right now, he and his offense are atrocious. And that's what this thread is about: how the Seahawks' offense looks right now at this point in the season.
If you don't want to read any opinions about football in September, then turn off the TV and stay away from the Internet. The rest of us will keep talking about the games we're watching.
Dude, how come you never get anything right and how come you will totally ignore all those things RW has done from an historical perspective? You can't read all the things he has done in just 4 seasons?
Dude, didn't you say Derek Anderson was better than Caam Newton, and now Kelly Stouffer is.,....hahahahahahaha~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
My God is this dude an idiot or what?
RW leads the NFL with a 110.1 QB rating, sets an NFL record 4000/30/500 and owns a ton of NFL firsts but he's no franchise QB, hahahahahaha~~~~~~~~~~~~
My fav....
RW in his second season wins a SB in his third he is one yard awat from winning another (no other QB had ever been in this spot) he gets picked off. CN.....HE SUCKS~~~~~~~~~
Hahahahahahahahaha~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ~~~~~~~
Match this with any other current QB.
Last edited by Avante; 09-19-2016 at 04:15 PM.
I'm not "ignoring" anything. I just understand the context of Struggle's first four seasons, as he was carried by a historic mega-stacked supporting cast, including Marshawn Lynch and one of the best defenses in recent memory. To put things in perspective, he joined a team that had just won 7 games with T-Jack and Whitehurst at QB and hadn't even entered their primes yet. In fact, they had gone 5-3 down the stretch of the previous season and all three losses were by less than a touchdown, so they were already improving without him.
Struggle piled up his records with more help than most quarterbacks could ever dream of. In fact, he's had more help in his career than anyone else in that timespan:
http://www.espn.com/blog/statsinfo/p...russell-wilson
Now that his team isn't as stacked anymore, we're seeing the real Struggle Wilson and it isn't pretty.
You're up against the a en of the Pile of Goo with an almanac.
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