Corey Joseph vs. Kyle Anderson

[SAGirl]

That is true but we need a back up who can run the O when he is out. Patty is a 2 in a 1's body. We need a successor as well, maybe Murray will fit that? I hope he is the answer and they groom him. I totally forgot about him when I wrote that but a vet to run the back up 1 would not be a bad idea while this takes place. Manu is a year older and slower so I love the guy but how much does he realistically have left? Mills as I said a 2 in a 1 body, plus he needs to find his talent again which is his shot! I hope it all plays out but there is ? at the PG too on this team.

BTW good point you brought up there, you are right on losing the guy who could do 3 positions. Kyle might be that guy or might not, this season will tell a lot on that end. I also hope Simmons can break out some, I know he is not a PG or SF but from the wing if he can add some scoring backing up DG that would be a huge bonus. My guys to look for this year are Anderson, Simmons and to a lesser extent the Sniper Bertans who they sorely need.

I have good wishes and hope for everyone in the team, Jsimms, Murray and Bertans included. I look forward to watching all the Spurs youngest players develop and help the team.

Going back to CoJo: the trade doesn't make sense. It creates a hole somewhere to go back to a previous status quo that didn't change the situation.

CoJo's last season with the Spurs he played more minutes only bc Tony had the worst season of his career and was out with a bad hamstring for a month and it seemed like he always tried to come back b4 the problem was really healed. Mills had a shoulder surgery and missed half a season then coming back out of rhythm and shooting 34% for the season.

That is what it took for Pop to play CoJo, basically a total implosion of both other PGs ahead of him at the same time. He still was benched when the other two were back to even 75% of their former selves. That was just a season before this last one he was with the Raptors. He hasn't changed much as a player except for the confidence that comes with having minutes and roles and confidence from his coach. Raptors paid him, so he was going to get a fair shake in Toronto and I am truly glad for him. I think he's in a better situation for himself. I don't think his situation last season would have been any different in the Spurs than it was in 2015, had he stayed. That is maybe a tragedy for some, but it's the truth for Pop and CoJo.

He didn't even get minutes against the Clippers in 2015 in a series in which Tony either wasn't clearly right or something worse (like you know, his game having reached the point of no return). I don't think CoJo fits so long as Tony/Danny, Mills/Manu are the main guards. To make it worth it for both CoJo and the Spurs you have to let one of those go and go with CoJo. (Obviously not a thread Apalisoc would start bc you know, that would make more sense than proposing this trade for Anderson). Ppl can debate as to who they would let go off to get CoJo but it is what it is. That is why I said if CoJo heard of the trade he'd say: "get the F out of here..."

[Brazil]

It is evident to the one who knows what to look for or it is not. You do admit Anderson has a higher ceiling. I don't want to waste my time with "essays" bc I have talked about this somewhere else and it will be lost on you anyways.

Yes I admitted he has more upside I've never said otherwise. So why don't you admit you had no idea what you were talking about when you said Anderson was better at same age than Cory ? It is simply not true, there is no what to look for when all stats converge in the same direction.

also if your business here is no trolling you would be more listened if you could admit when you are wrong about Kyle Anderson

[Brazil]

She's just delusional bro. I've been one of the very few kyle supporters on this forum but the moment i said he was a role player she started trowing tantrums and accusing that specific post ad trolling

I mean the girl barely knows what opportunities arise from decent rollman. I believe she's a new avid fan so shes only learning the game of badketball

it is true you are one of the few, I've already scratched my head reading stuff you posted about him

[SAGirl]

Yes I admitted he has more upside I've never said otherwise. So why don't you admit you had no idea what you were talking about when you said Anderson was better at same age than Cory ? It is simply not true, there is no what to look for when all stats converge in the same direction.

also if your business here is no trolling you would be more listened if you could admit when you are wrong about Kyle Anderson

I could, but I detected the point of the whole thing was trolling which makes it a waste of my time. I can just regurgitate old stuff too I have posted elsewhere, Gambit style, but it gets old fast and that is not my style. Take it as you will.

[Brazil]

I could, but I detected the point of the whole thing was trolling which makes it a waste of my time. I can just regurgitate old stuff too I have posted elsewhere, Gambit style, but it gets old fast and that is not my style. Take it as you will.

so anything that is not in favor of KA is trolling ?

In what world saying no KA had not a better year at 22 than Cory is trolling especially since it is true ?

[SAGirl]

so anything that is not in favor of KA is trolling ?

In what world saying no KA had not a better year at 22 than Cory is trolling especially since it is true ?

All this is tiring tbh I doesn't think a worthy pursuit of time bc the whole point is trolling. I could start by pointing out that Kyle had a flat out better career in HS, college, dleague and summer league. Last season was just the first one Kyle really got a chance to be in the rotation. HIs first season, the Spurs were looking to repaeat with a full roster that returned 14 guys and all spots were filled and so he was sent to the dleague. He did very well there, was player of the month in Feb, got them to the playoffs. He followed that up by winning MVP of summer league, the summer league team he led won the summer championship with him as leader. Started the season in a very minor role alternating with Simms, Butler, and won the spot fair and square. Martin was brought over to reinforce the team's streaky 3 pt. shooting I imagine but he was the worst player in the team and didn't unseat him. CoJo did very well for the Spurs but started his career earlier and looked extremely marginal as a player even his third season. I don't care to on CoJo so I will leave it at that.

Overall I think this trolling is tiring. There are many points to look at that show he's been a better prospect up to this particular point in their careers and you admit Kyle's the best prospect. so what do I care? I really have no interest in this. As I said, I like Cojo and your point is usually trolling.

Already have elaborated more than I care to.

[dabom]

All this is tiring tbh I doesn't think a worthy pursuit of time bc the whole point is trolling. I could start by pointing out that Kyle had a flat out better career in HS, college, dleague and summer league. Last season was just the first one Kyle really got a chance to be in the rotation. HIs first season, the Spurs were looking to repaeat with a full roster that returned 14 guys and all spots were filled and so he was sent to the dleague. He did very well there, was player of the month in Feb, got them to the playoffs. He followed that up by winning MVP of summer league, the summer league team he led won the summer championship with him as leader. Started the season in a very minor role alternating with Simms, Butler, and won the spot fair and square. Martin was brought over to reinforce the team's streaky 3 pt. shooting I imagine but he was the worst player in the team and didn't unseat him. CoJo did very well for the Spurs but started his career earlier and looked extremely marginal as a player even his third season. I don't care to on CoJo so I will leave it at that.

Overall I think this trolling is tiring. There are many points to look at that show he's been a better prospect up to this particular point in their careers and you admit Kyle's the best prospect. so what do I care? I really have no interest in this. As I said, I like Cojo and your point is usually trolling.

Already have elaborated more than I care to.

Biggest Piece OF his first year he didn't even get ONE minute in the playoffs.

Biggest Piece of in his first playoffs. Shooting a HOT 30% from the field.

Tell me more about his HS and Summer league days though.

[SAGirl]

again daboom :: ignore.

[dabom]

Let me tell you since you kinda new to the whole basketball/sports thing.

The Spurs don't give a how you do in the RS aslong as you have a decent/great track record in the playoffs.

If you have that, you can stink it up in the RS and the FO will still give you minutes.

No one really gives a about RS. Like no one. 2015 was just a crazy year with all those injuries and is an exception.

No one on this board gives a about the RS too. We know Pop shaves some wins off the teams record just to bring them back down to earth(to teach a lesson and such during the RS).

Having a great RS is fools gold for the Spurs.

We LIVE for the PLAYOFFS. You don't know better. Maybe a couple more years and you'd still be an infant.

All is forgiven if you go GODMODE in the playoffs and have a ty RS.

Tip so you stop looking like a dumbass. Stop bringing up RS stats. No one gives a .

Playoffs is where it's at.

[Sean Cagney]

I have good wishes and hope for everyone in the team, Jsimms, Murray and Bertans included. I look forward to watching all the Spurs youngest players develop and help the team.

Going back to CoJo: the trade doesn't make sense. It creates a hole somewhere to go back to a previous status quo that didn't change the situation.

CoJo's last season with the Spurs he played more minutes only bc Tony had the worst season of his career and was out with a bad hamstring for a month and it seemed like he always tried to come back b4 the problem was really healed. Mills had a shoulder surgery and missed half a season then coming back out of rhythm and shooting 34% for the season.

That is what it took for Pop to play CoJo, basically a total implosion of both other PGs ahead of him at the same time. He still was benched when the other two were back to even 75% of their former selves. That was just a season before this last one he was with the Raptors. He hasn't changed much as a player except for the confidence that comes with having minutes and roles and confidence from his coach. Raptors paid him, so he was going to get a fair shake in Toronto and I am truly glad for him. I think he's in a better situation for himself. I don't think his situation last season would have been any different in the Spurs than it was in 2015, had he stayed. That is maybe a tragedy for some, but it's the truth for Pop and CoJo.

He didn't even get minutes against the Clippers in 2015 in a series in which Tony either wasn't clearly right or something worse (like you know, his game having reached the point of no return). I don't think CoJo fits so long as Tony/Danny, Mills/Manu are the main guards. To make it worth it for both CoJo and the Spurs you have to let one of those go and go with CoJo. (Obviously not a thread Apalisoc would start bc you know, that would make more sense than proposing this trade for Anderson). Ppl can debate as to who they would let go off to get CoJo but it is what it is. That is why I said if CoJo heard of the trade he'd say: "get the F out of here..."

True, can't argue with any of that.

Nah. The Spurs don't need PGs. They need folks who can score one-on-one and initiate the offense. Cory, for the hype he's getting, is more of an energy/caretaker type. Look at his Toronto stats: http://www.basketball-reference.com/...josepco01.html They are worse than they were his last two years in SA.

Don't get me wrong, I think Cory's a better, more actualized player now than he was with the Spurs. But his 12pp36 on 51.2 TS% isn't exactly the missing link here.

The Spurs would be GS by being bigger than them, not by having a slightly better guard than Parker.

I agree 100% on this.

I will take Lowry though

[Ice009]

I was very interested in getting Lowry after his first year at the Raptors. Not too many people here were though. I'm pretty sure almost everyone would take him now. Should have acted earlier and offered them TP.

[SnakeBoy]

Cory is always going to be mid level talent. Meanwhile KA has the potential to be the Spurs next franchise player and future HOF'er. With Tim gone it is crucial that the Spurs to take a chance on his development because they have to find someone who can put the team on their back in crunch time...so no way you make that trade.

[dabom]

Cory is always going to be mid level talent. Meanwhile KA has the potential to be the Spurs next franchise player and future HOF'er. With Tim gone it is crucial that the Spurs to take a chance on his development because they have to find someone who can put the team on their back in crunch time...so no way you make that trade.

Back to posting? Just like your bro huh?

[gambit1990]

Cory is always going to be mid level talent. Meanwhile KA has the potential to be the Spurs next franchise player and future HOF'er. With Tim gone it is crucial that the Spurs to take a chance on his development because they have to find someone who can put the team on their back in crunch time...so no way you make that trade.

wow...