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    I'm not a Trump supporter, stop and frisk is bull . Nice try though.
    Never said you were a Trumpkin ... but wanted to hear your views since you are passionate about the topic.

    Bet there will be con uous silence from the NRA too, just like how they kept silent when concealed carry permit holder Philando Castile was gunned down. The NRA likes to pick and choose whose gun rights they want to protect. If a Democrat had said exactly what Trump did, LaPierre would have done half a dozen interviews by now.

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    Never said you were a Trumpkin ... but wanted to hear your views since you are passionate about the topic.

    Bet there will be con uous silence from the NRA too, just like how they kept silent when concealed carry permit holder Philando Castile was gunned down. The NRA likes to pick and choose whose gun rights they want to protect. If a Democrat had said exactly what Trump did, LaPierre would have done half a dozen interviews by now.
    Philando Castile is the first time I recall the NRA even responding to a tragedy, I believe they have a strict protocol against speaking on things like that.


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    Have u looked at the protest on tv I see no white dudes protesting
    I've seen several white protesters, what the are you talking about?

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    Obama nukes Trump on race: ‘Even most 8 year olds’ understand black people worse off under slavery

    ABC’s Good Morning America aired an interview with President Obama on Friday in which he blasted Donald Trump’s assertion that black people are worse off now than they “ever, ever, ever” have been.

    In fact, the president pointed out that most people who have even a third-grade education have a better understanding of history than that.

    “Even most 8 year olds would tell you that whole slavery thing wasn’t very good for black people,” he said.

    “Jim Crow wasn’t good for black people. What we have to do is use our history to propel us to make more progress in the future.”

    http://www.rawstory.com/2016/09/obam...e+Raw+Story%29


    This African American outreach is going well, I see.

    After Trump loses, if he so chose, could actually call each of the black people that voted for him, all 100 of them.

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    New bombs : Trump committed perjury or lied about trying to bribe Jeb — ‘there’s no third option’

    DOnald Trump committed perjury. Or he looked into the faces of the Republican faithful and knowingly lied. There is no third option.

    It has become an accepted reality of this presidential campaign that Trump spins a near-endless series of falsehoods.

    For months, the media has struggled with this unprecedented situation—a candidate who, unlike other politicians who stretch the truth, simply creates his own reality.

    Trumps regularly peddles “facts” that aren’t true, describes events that never happened or denies engaging in actions that everyone saw him do.

    He utters his falsehoods so fast that before reporters have the chance to correct one, he has tossed out five or six more.


    This time, it is different. Trump can’t skip past his perfidy here. There are two records—one, a previously undisclosed deposition of the Republican nominee testifying under oath, and the second a transcript/video of a Republican presidential debate.

    In them, Trump tells contradictory versions of the same story with the clashing accounts tailored to provide what he wanted people to believe when he was speaking.


    This fib matters far more than whether Trump was honest about why he abandoned his birther movement or the corollary fib that Hillary Clinton started the racist story that President Obama was born in Kenya.

    In the lie we are examining here, Trump either committed a felony or proved himself willing to deceive his followers whenever it suits him.

    Trump told the public version of this story last year, during the second Republican presidential debate.

    Trump had been boasting for weeks at his rallies that he knew the political system better than anyone, because he had essentially bought off politicians for decades by giving them campaign contributions when he wanted something. He also proclaimed that only he—as an outsider who had participated in such corruption of American democracy at a high level—could clean it up.

    During the September 2015 debate, one of Trump’s rivals, former Florida Governor Jeb Bush, verified Trump’s claim, saying the billionaire had tried to buy him off with favors and contributions when he was Florida’s governor.


    "The one guy that had some special interests that I know of that tried to get me to change my views on something—that was generous and gave me money—was Donald Trump,” Bush said. “He wanted casino gambling in Florida."


    Trump interrupted Bush:

    Trump: I didn’t—
    Bush: Yes, you did.
    Trump: Totally false.
    Bush: You wanted it, and you didn’t get it, because I was opposed to—
    Trump: I would have gotten it.
    Bush: Casino gambling before—
    Trump: I promise, I would have gotten it.
    Bush: During and after. I’m not going to be bought by anybody.
    Trump: I promise, if I wanted it, I would have gotten it.
    Bush: No way. Believe me.
    Trump: I know my people.
    Bush: Not even possible.
    Trump: I know my people.


    If Trump was telling the truth that night, so be it. But if he was lying, what was his purpose? His “If I wanted it, I would have gotten it,” line may be a hint.

    Contrary to his many vague stories on the campaign trail about being a cash-doling political puppet master, this story has a name, a specific goal and ends in failure. If Bush was telling the truth, then Trump would have had to admit he lost a round and, as he assured the audience, that would not have happened. When he wants something, he gets it.

    But that wasn’t the point he needed to make in 2007. The deposition was part of a lawsuit he’d filed against Richard Fields, who Trump had hired to manage the expansion of his casino business into Florida.

    In the suit, Trump claimed that Fields had quit and taken all of the information he obtained while working for Trump to another company. Under oath, Trump said he did want to get into casino gambling in Florida but didn’t because he had been cheated by Fields.


    A lawyer asked Trump, “Did you yourself do anything to obtain any of the details with respect to the Florida gaming environment, what approvals were needed and so forth?”


    Trump
    : A little bit.

    Lawyer: What did you do?
    Trump: I actually spoke with Governor-Elect Bush; I had a big fundraiser for Governor-Elect Bush…and I think it was his most successful fundraiser, the most successful that he had had up until that point, that was in Trump Tower in New York on Fifth Avenue.
    Lawyer: When was that?
    Trump: Sometime prior to his election.
    Lawyer: You knew that Governor Bush, Jeb Bush at that time, was opposed to expansion of gaming in Florida, didn't you?
    Trump: I thought that he could be convinced otherwise.
    Lawyer: But you didn't change his mind about his anti-gaming stance, did you?
    Trump: Well, I never really had that much of an opportunity because Fields resigned, telling me you could never get what we wanted done, only to do it for another company.

    One of these stories is a lie—a detailed, self-serving fabrication.

    But unlike the mountain of other lies he has told, this time the character trait that leads to Trump’s mendacity is on full display: He makes things up when he doesn’t want to admit he lost.


    http://www.rawstory.com/2016/09/new-...e+Raw+Story%29

    Hillary emails?

    Benghazi?

    crooked Hillary?

    Trash is a liar, a fraud, corrupter of govt officials, grifter, thief, self-dealer, pals around with The Mob




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    Trash has LIED again. "Immigrants take our jobs. Immigrants take our money"

    Immigrants Don't Take Americans' Jobs—But They Do Help US Economy: Study

    The authors of the report said they hoped the findings would 'be of use to policymakers and the public as they consider this issue'

    The study analyzes 20 years of economic and demographic data of U.S. immigration. Within the past 10 years, the impact of non-native workers on American-born workers has been "very small," and workers who saw their wages decrease were most likely to be prior immigrants or native workers who did not complete high school. Recent immigrants were also more likely to reduce the job opportunities for prior immigrants, rather than native workers.

    Meanwhile, some evidence suggests that other sub-groups of native workers and other areas of the economy may in fact have benefited from the influx of skilled immigrants. The second-generation children of immigrants were the most rewarding sect of workers—contributing more to the economy than any other demographic of the U.S. population, including native-born.


    "The panel's comprehensive examination revealed many important benefits of immigration—including on economic growth, innovation, and entrepreneurship—with little to no negative effects on the overall wages or employment of native-born workers in the long term," said report co-author Francine D. Blau, Frances Perkins professor of industrial and labor relations and Cornell University professor of economics.

    "Where negative wage impacts have been detected, native-born high school dropouts and prior immigrants are most likely to be affected," she said.

    "The fiscal picture is more mixed, with negative effects especially evident at the state level when the costs of educating the children of immigrants are included, but these children of immigrants, on average, go on to be the most positive fiscal contributors in the population."


    http://www.commondreams.org/news/201...-economy-study




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    Hillary Clinton just lost every Republican she ever had, including Never Trump, all farmers & sm. biz, by saying she’ll tax estates at 65%

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    http://www.cnbc.com/2016/09/22/boom-...720&yptr=yahoo

    was suppose to be 45 she said early but now 65 WOW

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    Hillary Clinton just lost every Republican she ever had, including Never Trump, all farmers & sm. biz, by saying she’ll tax estates at 65%
    Trash zero-ing the estate tax will gain his family $4B

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    he is helping all americans yes that includes him

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    he is helping all americans
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    Trump wants to fire generals who disagree with him. That’ll mean firing a lot of generals.

    Donald Trump says he’ll listen to the nation’s generals about how to fight ISIS. He won’t like what they have to say.

    Earlier this month, Trump said that one of his first acts as president would be to give his generals “30 days to submit a plan for soundly and quickly defeating ISIS.” He seems to think the reason ISIS stands is that the Obama administration has been too weak and feckless to give the military what it wants: the resources and freedom to crush our enemies.

    He’s wrong. But the way in which he’s wrong is telling. The Republican presidential nominee has surrounded himself with retired generals whose extremely hard-line views about how to battle the terror group make them much more hawkish than the officers who are still serving — and would have to oversee the actual fighting. Those generals generally support the Obama administration’s current strategy of bombing ISIS from the air while arming and training the rebels battling on the ground.


    Those generals also think that Russia, not ISIS, is the biggest threat to the US. Trump, in other words, would double down on what top brass see as the wrong war, while cozying up to the country many military leaders see as our greatest threat.


    “He may be listening too much to the retired generals that are the ones closest to him, and extrapolating from them into the broader ranks of general officers,” said retired Army Lt. Gen. Dave Barno, formerly the top commander in Afghanistan. “That’s a mistake because they are extreme outliers in terms of wanting to do a lot more against ISIS.”


    Think of it as the Iraq Syndrome:

    The long and failed war there means an entire generation of commanders are reluctant to commit large numbers of ground forces to what could be a conflict with no end.

    Candidate Trump will doubtlessly talk tough about ISIS at Monday’s debate, and a President Trump might expect that the military would enthusiastically want to help him “bomb the out of ISIS” in Iraq and Syria. The reality is that they wouldn’t.

    Nothing in Trump’s public comments suggest that he grasps that the military is a fundamentally cautious ins ution led by men and women who are far from the warmongering stereotypes often seen in pop culture (like Dr. Strangelove’s Gen. Buck Turgidson).

    Earlier this month, Trump told Matt Lauer that he’d be willing to take the unprecedented step of firing generals en masse if he didn’t like what they had to say.

    The Pentagon’s top brass, he alleged, “have been reduced to rubble … to a point where it’s embarrassing for our country.”

    Once he took charge, Trump continued, “they’ll probably be different generals.”


    http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politi...agree-with-him



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    it is amazing if people do not like trump they automatic think trump is wrong
    do not agree with someone the other person is wrong and they are never wrong

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    Last edited by ducks; 09-23-2016 at 03:23 PM.

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    kaine believes Clinton will win texas

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    Funny that "the generals think Russia is the biggest threat"

    The Cold War is dead and gone. Russia has integrated into the global economy.

    Russia fear DOES give them an excuse to keep our massive defense budget and keep buying new toys.

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    Funny that "the generals think Russia is the biggest threat"

    The Cold War is dead and gone. Russia has integrated into the global economy.

    Russia fear DOES give them an excuse to keep our massive defense budget and keep buying new toys.
    they fear the ruskies because of all the proxy wars both countries are going to engage in.

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    Funny that "the generals think Russia is the biggest threat"

    The Cold War is dead and gone. Russia has integrated into the global economy.

    Russia fear DOES give them an excuse to keep our massive defense budget and keep buying new toys.
    Russia right now is supporting Syria against the Syrian rebels, which means countering the USA's "regime change" of Assad.

    Russia is trying to recruit Turkey, a NATO member, to their sphere of influence (and Turkey away from attacking Russia's protege Syria

    Russia is also a threat to Europe, able to blackmail Europe, via Europe's dependence on Russian gas.

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    Is he running for revenge?


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    Russia right now is supporting Syria against the Syrian rebels, which means countering the USA's "regime change" of Assad.

    Russia is trying to recruit Turkey, a NATO member, to their sphere of influence (and Turkey away from attacking Russia's protege Syria

    Russia is also a threat to Europe, able to blackmail Europe, via Europe's dependence on Russian gas.
    So what's your military solution boo? Nuke em?

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    Is he running for revenge?

    that was burn.

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    So what's your military solution boo? Nuke em?
    Keep wasting $10Bs and 100Ks lives like we've been doing since your criminals dubya and head ed up the Middle East.

    The GWOT is unwinnable, and US military hasn't won anyway since 1945. But it's great for wealth transfer from taxpayers to the MIC.

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    Trash's less, chicken brownshirts (Sturmabteilung ) bullying women

    Neo-Nazi Trump Supporters Are Going After YA Books Now


    Author Laura Silverman wrote a YA novel, Girl Out of Water, that’s slated for publication in May 2017. The book hasn’t fully made its way through the editorial process, and review copies have not been sent out.

    Nonetheless, one day last week, Silverman heard from a fellow author that Girl Out of Water had been besieged with one-star ratings and reviews on Goodreads, a popular site where readers keep track of the books they’re reading.


    “There’s zero chance those reviews could have been legitimate,” she told The Huffington Post in a phone conversation. Not only is the book still under wraps, but she and others noted that many of the nasty reviews were posted by brand-new accounts.

    So what was going on? Silverman, who is Jewish and frequently tweets about the election, had a good idea. Ever since this summer, her tweets calling out presidential candidate Donald Trump for his problematic statements had attracted bucketloads of anti-Semitic responses and threats from white supremacist accounts.

    After she tweeted her anger about Trump’s cozy interview on Jimmy Fallon last week, the trolls multiplied ― and, apparently, spread to other forums.

    On Sept. 16, she tweeted a screenshot of her book’s newly abysmal Goodreads rating, with a plea to the site. “Please help. White supremacists are tanking my book,” she tweeted. “They’re trying to ruin my livelihood.”

    http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...%20more%20here

    All you head Trash supporters, you support Trash's racism, bigotry, anti-semitism, misogyny, white nationalism, xenophobia, etc, etc, as espoused, legitimized, and mainstreamed by Trash.



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