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    I'm just trying to imagine an alternate universe where Donald Trump was Secretary of State for 4 years and the biggest scandal arising from it was a private email server.
    Peddling access to the US Secretary of State through the Clinton Foundation might have overshadowed HRC's email shenanigans, if the GOP hadn't been crying wolf for five straight years over Benghazi.

    For better and for worse, the electorate seems completely desensitized to corruption apparent or actual -- a predictable side effect of 25 years of fake outrage, frivolous scandal-mongering and cheap cynicism.

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    One of you amateur legal experts needs to explain this "scandal" to me. A judge ordered a charitable donation to settle a complaint. That donation is tax deductible. He transferred funds from one charitable foundation where he had already taken a tax deduction. The transfer of funds from one charitable organization to another was not tax deductible, so it only got deducted once. Why would the IRS care?
    The long and short of it is that the debt was Mar-a-Lagos' and he used his charitable foundation to settle the debt.

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    Peddling access to the US Secretary of State through the Clinton Foundation might have overshadowed HRC's email shenanigans, if the GOP hadn't been crying wolf for five straight years over Benghazi.

    For better and for worse, the electorate seems completely desensitized to corruption apparent or actual -- a predictable side effect of 25 years of fake outrage, frivolous scandal-mongering and cheap cynicism.
    A fair point, but even including the Foundation, I can't imagine a Trump Secretaryship being without similar (or worse) scandal.

    I might be guilty of desensitization as well, and without sounding like I'm defending her, I think a lot of this is a result of her being the highest-positioned Presidential candidate since Al Gore 16 years ago when the world was, frankly, much different.

    We're used to candidates with much lower-stakes experience. Senators, etc. I'd have a hard time imagining any former Secretary of State having a high "trustworthy" rating.

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    Is Trump being a docile dog when he comes across world leaders again?

    He did it with the Mexican president. With Egypts president and now this guy?

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    Is Trump being a docile dog when he comes across world leaders again?

    He did it with the Mexican president. With Egypts president and now this guy?
    Do u know he raised 5 million the day he went to Mexico

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    Do u know he raised 5 million the day he went to Mexico
    Just 5? How many did Hillary raise?

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    Kellyanne Conway squirms under intense questioning from ‘Morning Joe’ panel trying to explain Trump ‘lie’

    Trump campaign manager Kellyanne Conway went onto Morning Joe on Monday and likely expected an easy interview.
    Instead, she found herself getting grilled by both Mark Halperin and Mika Brzezinski about

    Trump’s factually incorrect claim that debate moderator Lester Holt is a registered Democrat, when in reality,

    Holt is a registered Republican.

    “He made a factual claim about the moderator, who deserves to be treated fairly, and it was just wrong,” said Halperin. “And it’s a metaphor for his frequently, in public, stating things with no basis.”


    “I think it’s a terrible and irrelevant example,” Conway shot back, before proceeding to completely dodge Halperin’s question.

    http://www.rawstory.com/2016/09/kell...e+Raw+Story%29

    Hey, Halperin, look up the definition of "metaphor"

    Trash's team "appalled" by Matt "super-softball" Lauer?



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    Donald Trump and the Return of Seditious Libel

    so offended Britain’s royal governor of New York and New Jersey, William Cosby, that Cosby brought suit against Zenger for

    seditious libel — the crime of criticizing the government.

    Under the law then in effect in Britain and its colonies,

    truth was not a defense to this charge.


    The leading legal treatise of the day explained that “since the greater appearance there is of truth in any malicious invective, so much the more provoking it is.” And: “The malicious prosecution of even truth itself cannot… be suffered to interrupt the tranquility of a well-ordered society.” This was deemed especially the case with true attacks on those in power, as they would have “a direct tendency to breed in the people a dislike of their governors and incline them to faction and sedition.” Holy

    Trump is more hostile to the legal and cons utional rights of the press than any major presidential candidate of the last two centuries.

    What he proposes is reminiscent of the Alien and Sedition Acts of 1798 championed (to his immortal disgrace) by President John Adams in the last serious attempt to relitigate at the federal level what had seemed resolved in the Zenger case.

    Trump has said that most reporters are “absolute dishonest, absolute s .”

    He’s said that “I think the media is among the most dishonest groups of people I’ve ever met. They’re terrible.”

    In February he pledged that “one of the things I’m gonna do if I win, and I hope that I do, and we’re certainly leading, is

    I’m gonna open up our libel laws so when they write purposely negative and horrible and false articles, we can sue them and win lots of money.


    We’re gonna open up those libel laws.

    Nor is a threat by Trump to sue for libel an idle one. In 2006 he brought such a suit against a book that asserted he had wildly overstated his wealth. He lost the case on the merits as well as for failure to prove fault. But the Washington Post reported that “Trump said in an interview that he knew he couldn’t win the suit but brought it anyway to make a point. ‘I spent a couple of bucks on legal fees, and they spent a whole lot more. I did it to make [author Tim O’Brien’s] life miserable, which I’m happy about.’

    “It is not ‘freedom of the press’ when newspapers and others are allowed to say and write whatever they want even if it is completely false!”

    Melania Trump’s libel lawyer ... New York Times Co. v. Sullivan, the 1964 Supreme Court decision that established modern press protections, should be overruled.

    https://www.propublica.org/article/donald-trump-and-the-return-of-seditious-libel?utm_campaign=sprout&utm_medium=social&utm_so urce=facebook&utm_content=1474891900



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    New Hillary Clinton Ad Calls Out Donald Trump’s ‘Seven Deadly Lies’

    "The video..highlights the most outrageous his 'Seven Deadly Lies,'" including his biggest lie of all: that "I will never lie to you"


    1. “I was always against the war in Iraq”

    2. “I would have stayed out of Libya”

    3. When the World Trade Center came down, I watched “thousand and thousands” of people cheering

    4. Hillary “has pledged to create totally open borders for the United States”

    5. “President Obama is the founder of ISIS”6. “Mexico is going to pay for the wall”And the deadliest (and most obvious) lie of all,

    7. “I will never lie to you”

    http://www.politicususa.com/2016/09/...iticus+USA+%29

    Crooked Hillary?



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    Trash's people are as trashy as he is. So many flies attracted to that .

    Ex-Cop Who Flew Pence To Rallies Let Go After Violent Crime Charges Surface

    Retired police officer Vincent Caldara last year pleaded not guilty to a charge of aggravated battery with a deadly weapon for allegedly, intentionally ramming a former colleague with his car, leaving the colleague with serious physical injuries and over $200,000 in medical bills, according to The Guardian.

    Caldara’s former business associate Jeff Shanley said Caldara repeatedly struck him with his vehicle, forcing him to undergo two surgeries and leaving him unable to bend his right hand.


    In another incident, a woman sued Caldara for driving his Harley-Davidson motorcycle into her, causing her serious physical harm.

    Caldara appeared with Trump at an event in Fort Myers as recently as last week, and spoke on his behalf at a campaign event in Cocoa Beach earlier in September, where he praised the real estate mogul as the “law and order candidate.” ( iow RACIST )

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/livewir...+%28TPMNews%29



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    Donald Trump denied visit to civil rights museum after campaign “bullied” staff with “special requests”

    A civil rights museum in North Carolina rejected a request to visit from Republican presidential nominee Donald Trump after the businessman’s campaign was “aggressive and rude” to museum staff.


    Greensboro’s WFMY first reported on The International Civil Rights Center and Museum’s decision to deny Trump’s request to visit during his campaign swing through the battleground state last week. Co-founder Earl Jones explained that the Trump campaign had demanded “special requests” that the museum could not grant, such as the facility remaining closed to the public for at least five hours to accommodate the Republican candidate.

    “We have equal treatment for everyone coming to the museum,” Jones told WFMY, adding that his staff was contacted by the Trump campaign to plan a visit for last Tuesday, when the Republican presidential nominee would be in town for a separate speech. “We did not honor the request of the Donald Trump team because we thought [what its members] demonstrated in their approach was disrespectful, so therefore we did not grant that request.”

    http://www.salon.com/2016/09/26/trum...cial-requests/

    Trash and his trashy staff, reaching out to blacks.




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    Is Trump’s shady charity finally a political issue? Experts say Trump Foundation is in serious trouble

    Legal experts say the Trump Foundation took advantage of lax nonprofit regulations and repeatedly broke the rules

    After many baffling weeks buried other news, the shady dealings of Donald Trump’s charitable nonprofit, the Trump Foundation, are finally emerging as a major political story.

    Experts whom I have spoken to say the Trump Foundation’s actions, as reported by the Post, looked like pretty clear violations of laws governing charitable spending and that Trump and his charity are probably looking at fines and sanctions, with still more severe punishments possible.

    Trump has already been punished by the IRS for his foundation’s su iously timed contribution to a political action committee supporting Florida Attorney General Pam Bondi, who had been considering opening an investigation into fraud allegations against Trump University when the Trump Foundation cut the PAC a $25,000 check. The IRS apparently impelled Trump to pay a 10 percent excise tax on the donation — $2,500 — and Trump claims that he reimbursed the foundation for the full $25,000.


    But the Trump Foundation is also under scrutiny for allegations of self-dealing:

    using foundation funds to settle lawsuits against Trump’s business interests and

    to purchase items that were used for business or personal reasons,

    including paintings of Trump and

    a football helmet signed by right-wing culture hero Tim Tebow.

    New York Attorney General Eric Schneiderman’s office, which handles oversight of New York-based charities like the Trump Foundation, has announced its opening of an investigation into “troubling transactions that have recently come to light.”

    “Part of what goes along with the low level of enforcement is that most charities are really trying their best to do the right thing,”

    the proliferation of misconduct allegations against the Trump Foundation, Sugin said, “possibly reflects a greater problem, which is perhaps that Donald Trump doesn’t have enough respect for the rule of law.”

    “What’s particularly unusual is the pattern of behavior, assuming all the allegations are true.”

    The Trump Foundation seems to have repeatedly broken basic, longstanding rules governing how charitable funds can be spent — rules that officials at the charity absolutely should have known about. “They were definitely being very sloppy,” Mayer said. “And I’d be very interested to know who their lawyers and accountants were, because they should have been telling them ‘Don’t do this.’”

    The IRS could fine Trump, force him to pay taxes on contributions that are determined to be self-dealing and require that he reimburse the foundation. As TPM’s Tierney Sneed has reported, if the IRS finds a flagrant pattern of self-dealing, it “has the authority to terminate the private foundation by way of taxing the charity the entirety of its worth.”

    he brought all this trouble on himself. The allegations of self-dealing by Trump Foundation might have escaped the notice of light-touch regulators had Trump not run for president. But he stuck his head up and made himself one of the most visible people in the world, thus inviting reporters to scrutinize every shady facet of his public life.

    http://www.salon.com/2016/09/26/is-t...rious-trouble/

    child rapist, adulterer, fraudulent university scam, importing foreingers to work for poverty wages, ignoring foundation regulations/self-dealing, etc, etc. Just what you rightwingnuts want for President.

    btw, these are not bogus charges, like Repugs/right-wing-hate-media are witch-hunting Hillary with.



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    Y'all hear that rustling? It's happening bouts, embrace it

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    CNN panel goes off the rails after Trump surrogate mocks Hillary Clinton’s figure

    the Donald Trump surrogate suggested he wouldn’t like to see Hillary Clinton wearing yoga pants.

    http://www.rawstory.com/2016/09/cnn-panel-goes-off-the-rails-after-trump-surrogate-mocks-hillary-clintons-figure/?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaig n=Feed%3A+TheRawStory+%28The+Raw+Story%29

    goddam, Trash's people are pure trash.


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    damn

    I can't unsee that thought.

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    Trump has demonized the Latino community

    it is no secret how different this election cycle has been for many Latinos in America. None of us anticipated the extent our community would be the face, and in many ways the target, of the most prominent issue of this election season: immigration.

    Led by Donald Trump, the tone of 2016’s immigration discussion has managed to cast aspersions well beyond those personally affected by immigration policy to include attacks on the Latino community as a whole.

    From denigrating Mexican Americans as “criminals, rapists, and drug dealers” to questioning the integrity of an American judge based solely on his Latino heritage, Trump has demonized our community and advanced the dark and baseless notion that Latinos are a threat, and not a strength, to our country.

    http://www.rawstory.com/2016/09/trum...e+Raw+Story%29




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    http://thehill.com/blogs/pundits-blo...s-policies-are
    Clinton's policies are wrong for America

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    This Looks Real Big

    We're still piecing the details of David Fahrenthold's latest story at the Post. But this seems like by far his biggest get yet. He appears to have

    caught Trump in major tax evasion using his charity.

    Tax evasion on the back end, self-dealing on the front.

    That makes the whole en y look like a tax dodge.


    Let me jump through the outline details.

    Last week we noted that a Trump family aide defended the idea that Trump Foundation money is really Trump's money since often he takes money that's owed to him and directs it to the Foundation. That's laudable if true. But it's irrelevant in terms of whose money it is.

    Once Trump gives money to his Foundation it's the Foundation's money and all those rules apply.

    Now it turns out that a lot of the Foundation money does come in just this way. But here's the key. It sounds like Trump is not paying taxes on that income.

    It works like this. Trump or one of his businesses is owed money by Company X or Person Y. Trump says

    'Don't send the check to me. Just send it to my Foundation.' No problem with that. As I said, as long as your foundation is legit, it's laudable.

    But you have to pay taxes on that money because it's your income.

    Here's where it gets weird. Fahrenthold got a series of false explanations from Trump representative Boris Epshteyn about how this money was handled. When Fahrenthold presented Epshteyn with proof of these diversions, Epshteyn shifted gears and said the diversions did happen but they were fine.

    At this point, Epshteyn cited an obscure 1942 tax case which seems not to apply to the facts in Trump's case. Here's that passage in the Post's piece ...

    Instead, Epshteyn put forward a different explanation. Trump, he said, had never done what Patton described.Instead, Epshteyn said, Trump had all along been following the dictates of an obscure 1942 court case, which he cited by name: Commissioner of Internal Revenue v. Giannini.

    That case involved a San Francisco bank president who had decided he had been paid enough and renounced the rest of his salary for the year. The bank gave his money to the University of California instead. The court held that the bank president didn’t have to pay taxes on that money, because he hadn’t controlled where it went.

    Trump, Epshteyn said, was just like that. He had not exercised control over where his money went. Indeed, Epshteyn said, when Trump helped someone, he never asked specifically for a gift to the Donald J. Trump Foundation — but rather suggested a gift to some charity, somewhere.


    But sometimes, Epshteyn said, a gift arrived at the Trump Foundation.


    “He’s Donald J. Trump,” Epshteyn said, explaining why donors had chosen this particular charity.


    Under the set-up that Epshteyn described, tax experts said, Trump might have escaped paying income taxes on donations to the Trump Foundation — as long as he truly had no influence over where the money went.

    Now here's where my assumption comes in. I'm pretty certain that if Trump had paid taxes, there'd be no need to cite this case.

    The tax experts the Post talked to (we're talking to our own right now) seem to think it's pretty open and shut that Trump needed to pay taxes.

    At length, Epshteyn said Trump did pay tax on a major appearance fee from Comedy Central. But when asked for proof, he refused to give any.

    Here's where it gets interested. As one former prosecutor notes in the piece, for Trump to face criminal penalties prosecutors would need to prove he knew he was violating the law. But there's another dimension of this.

    We already have pretty clear evidence that Trump practiced self-dealing on what the Foundation chose to contribute to.

    And that all adds up to the Trump Foundation looking like a big tax evasion scheme - not just a poorly run family foundation that didn't follow all the rules.

    http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/...+%28TPMNews%29

    Benghazi!

    emails!


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    Exclusive: Russian-Born Oil Magnate Gives Big to Trump Victory

    Simon Grigorievich Kukes, former chief executive of a now-defunct Russian state-owned oil company, who contributed more than $150,000 to Trump’s campaign and joint fundraising committee, Trump Victory.

    This is the first election cycle he has contributed, according to FEC do ents.

    Kukes gave $2,700 directly to Trump’s campaign in March, and then a total of $149,000 to Trump Victory in June and July; another $2,700 of that went to Trump directly, while the remainder was divided between the Republican National Committee’s main account, its convention account and its headquarters account.

    Kukes has another link with Trump: He bought a five-room condominium at Trump Parc in Midtown West for $1.7 million in 2000, according to the Observer, (which is published by Jared Kushner, Trump’s son-in-law.)

    Trump isn’t the only beneficiary of Kukes’ funds: He also contributed the max to Elizabeth Cheney’s campaign for Wyoming’s congressional seat in June. Cheney is the daughter of former vice president Cheney.


    Neither Kukes nor the Trump campaign had responded to requests for comment at the time of publication.

    http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/excl...trump-victory/



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    I've been riding for Trump, but smh, how are you gonna with Don King as your conduit to us? I hope an advisor got fired for that, tbh..

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    Exclusive: Russian-Born Oil Magnate Gives Big to Trump Victory

    Simon Grigorievich Kukes, former chief executive of a now-defunct Russian state-owned oil company, who contributed more than $150,000 to Trump’s campaign and joint fundraising committee, Trump Victory.

    This is the first election cycle he has contributed, according to FEC do ents.

    Kukes gave $2,700 directly to Trump’s campaign in March, and then a total of $149,000 to Trump Victory in June and July; another $2,700 of that went to Trump directly, while the remainder was divided between the Republican National Committee’s main account, its convention account and its headquarters account.

    Kukes has another link with Trump: He bought a five-room condominium at Trump Parc in Midtown West for $1.7 million in 2000, according to the Observer, (which is published by Jared Kushner, Trump’s son-in-law.)

    Trump isn’t the only beneficiary of Kukes’ funds: He also contributed the max to Elizabeth Cheney’s campaign for Wyoming’s congressional seat in June. Cheney is the daughter of former vice president Cheney.


    Neither Kukes nor the Trump campaign had responded to requests for comment at the time of publication.

    http://lawnewz.com/high-profile/excl...trump-victory/


    What's your point, boo?

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    What's your point, boo?
    Why do I have to have a point?

    Why do you ask? do you really GAF?

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    Why do I have to have a point?

    Why do you ask? do you really GAF?
    Are you racist against people of Russian heritage? Are they not allowed to exercise their right to make political contributions?

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