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    You're cherry picking polls though, look at them all and there is no denying who has the momentum. Why'd you take out the Bloomberg poll and others showing trump ahead? Keep in mind these are liberal outlets putting this stuff out.

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    I think this is the only important debate.

    The people who will decide this (Indepedents+undecideds) election will call it in tonight after seeing them both head to head.

    I find it hard to believe that you dont know who you're going to vote for 3 weeks from now. The next debate is like mid october. Who waits till that late to decide?
    nah -- Kerry beat Bush big time in the first debate, Romney beat Barry big time in the first debate -- you saw how those two went -- historically, the first debate is actually the most expendable.

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    You're cherry picking polls though, look at them all and there is no denying who has the momentum. Why'd you take out the Bloomberg poll and others showing trump ahead? Keep in mind these are liberal outlets putting this stuff out.
    I'm not cherry picking polls. I'm picking the polls that have been released just now. The CNN and Bloomberg polls were released early this morning.

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    nah -- Kerry beat Bush big time in the first debate, Romney beat Barry big time in the first debate -- you saw how those two went -- historically, the first debate is actually the most expendable.
    This is not a typical election or debate. When has a presidential debate had this much hype? A lot is riding on this.

    80-100 people will watch. That's going up against an NFL game. That says a lot.

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    I'm not cherry picking polls. I'm picking the polls that have been released just now. The CNN and Bloomberg polls were released early this morning.
    Which is current, stop being a sarcastic dunce

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    Which is current, stop being a sarcastic dunce
    Then why are you crying about cherry picking?

    New polls are new polls. Realclear hasn't even updated their overall averages. Expect Florida to be at tie. With the new Florida poll which has her up 3 and Trump leading the state by 0.2 that will now be erase to just a tie if not Hillary leaning.

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    This is not a typical election or debate.
    One thing I can agree with you on and also the reason I think it's stupid to focus so much on polls. As long as the average of polls show it as a somewhat of a close race then it's all about turnout and we won't know that until Nov 8th.

    I've always thought this election was Hillary's to lose. I didn't think she would be so good at trying to lose it.

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    Florida is trumps ask your boy shillver

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    Hillary will flood the airwaves with a billion dollars of negative ads the weeks right before the election and make it about stopping trump and not why we should vote for her.

    I'm glad I'll be in Costa Rica fishing during the bulk of it.


    I think her biggest problem is she is relying too much on Obama's popularity. He can campaign and stump for her in all the states he won sure, but at the end of the day Hillary needs to be the one out there showcasing her face. It's only but so much he can do. From what I can see this time around the enthusiasm for Hillary just not there it was for Obama. I worried about that in the Primaries that Bernie would have probably been more of a slam dunk than Hillary.

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    Florida is trumps ask your boy shillver
    A state with over 20% of hispanics?

    It's a question of if they turn out. They already heavily favored her as it is.

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    Shillver gives trump favorable odds to win. "Hispanics" as a monolithic group don't exist, those are Cubans and they hate Mexicans

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    Florida is trumps ask your boy shillver
    What did I tell your dumbass?




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    Ain't happening

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    OP is right about the Cubans being different and more conservative and hating of communism/socialism/food stamps than Mexicans and most Central Americans. But they're also going to be pissed off about how Trump treated their idol Rubio.

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    I think her biggest problem is she is relying too much on Obama's popularity. He can campaign and stump for her in all the states he won sure, but at the end of the day Hillary needs to be the one out there showcasing her face. It's only but so much he can do. From what I can see this time around the enthusiasm for Hillary just not there it was for Obama. I worried about that in the Primaries that Bernie would have probably been more of a slam dunk than Hillary.
    Millennial voter turnout would have tripled records (at least) had Bernie won. I'd consider voting for him because at least he's honest and apolitical.

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    This is not a typical election or debate. When has a presidential debate had this much hype? A lot is riding on this.

    80-100 people will watch. That's going up against an NFL game. That says a lot.
    The majority of NFL watchers will be Trump, but I plan on going back and forth between the game and debate tonight.

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    OP is right about the Cubans being different and more conservative and hating of communism/socialism/food stamps than Mexicans and most Central Americans. But they're also going to be pissed off about how Trump treated their idol Rubio.
    how many rightwingnut out-of-date-Castro-hating Cubans are there? vs 10Ms of Latinos/Hispanics trashed by Trash?

    The huge number of younger Cubans are more Americanized and aren't a close-minded as their old parents.

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    how many rightwingnut out-of-date-Castro-hating Cubans are there? vs 10Ms of Latinos/Hispanics trashed by Trash?

    The huge number of younger Cubans are more Americanized and aren't a close-minded as their old parents.
    I think they're right wing for sure, but not necessarily pro-Trump... Trump called their hero "Little Marco" and other dirty things... Trump is a racist...

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    hope you're voting early, don't let a bunch of forum liberals influence you towards apathy. This absolutely matters, if for nothing else but 2nd amendment and Supreme Court. You want a liberal Supreme Court? How about a 65% estate tax on your children if you die?
    Meh. The 2nd amendment isn't going anywhere.

    If background checks are the "death" of the second amendment, I'll eat my hat. What a bunch of hype.

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    And over 48% overall. Y'all still not believers? Emperor trump will drag you all kicking and screaming to prosperity and strength, for he cares about you all even those who doubted him.
    The laboratory for Trumps tax proposals is Kansas, and has pretty thoroughly debunked sharp tax cuts and trickle down economics as a serious policy.
    http://www.spurstalk.com/forums/showthread.php?t=248521

    Further, for someone who says he knows about money, he spouted off some decidedly ignorant things about it.

    You look at what China is doing for country in terms of making our product, they're devaluing their currency and there's nobody in our government to fight them.

    In fact, over the past two years, Beijing has been selling off some of its roughly $4 trillion in foreign exchange reserves to prop up the value of its currency, the Renminbi or Yuan. This has contributed to a lower U.S. trade deficit with China. Beijing allowed the RMB to appreciate against the dollar for about a decade until 2014, leading the IMF to judge the RMB as fairly valued in May of last year. -- Anthony Kuhn, International Correspondent

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