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    the people that are desperate to pin moral equivalency on me on a different political forum. Not sure which one you are.

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    I don't disagree with your line of thought. I just get the feeling she's going to be a terrible president, despite Trump potentially being even worse.

    There's a lot to criticize Barry for, but I always thought the meme of worst POTUS ever was unwarranted. It wasn't all bad, nor all the bad entirely his fault. I actually think he'll probably be remembered in much better light than his predecessor, and he looks to be walking out of office with about a 50% approval rating, which is pretty impressive considering the current polarization.

    I just think either of these two are going to be worse by a long mile. I freely admit it's just a gut feeling, nothing more.
    Fair enough. I am ambivalent about HRC. I can see it going well and I can see it going to .

    I can see her working to fix college tuition, health care, and appoint SCOTUS judges that will reverse CU. I can also see her going trojan horse and having a redux of her husbands presidency where we get another regime of banking deregulation and contract with stupidity part 2.

    I have no doubt that Trump would be awful. It would see the deregulation regime and trickle down economics plus horrific SCOTUS nominations while he enriches himself and alienates the world. WW3 is a real risk with him.

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    the people that are desperate to pin moral equivalency on me on a different political forum. Not sure which one you are.
    not even close

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    Like you would admit it.

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    Like you would admit it.
    no matter if I've already "outed myself." you think too highly of yourself to assume people actually follow you across forums. just for the lulz i'd love for you to PM me a link to this other poster

    you made a comment about moral equivalence just a handful of posts ago, so i found it ironic that you went onto do the same

    seriously though, link me, i'm genuinely interested

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    no matter if I've already "outed myself." you think too highly of yourself to assume people actually follow you across forums. just for the lulz i'd love for you to PM me a link to this other poster

    you made a comment about moral equivalence just a handful of posts ago, so i found it ironic that you went onto do the same

    seriously though, link me, i'm genuinely interested
    I don't assume anything. People there have followed me there and have said as much. I know who one of them is because he tells a story about his daughter getting beheaded by a methhead.

    I never said they were just as good or bad. That is the basis of moral equivalence. I meant that it would 'be like' not that it 'was' as well.

    I say they are similar because HRC defends Obama's policies and was in his administration and like Bush Trump believes in trickle down economics and unilateral military intervention.

    And you may very well not be but again why would you admit it?

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    I don't assume anything. People there have followed me there and have said as much. I know who one of them is because he tells a story about his daughter getting beheaded by a methhead.

    I never said they were just as good or bad. That is the basis of moral equivalence. I meant that it would 'be like' not that it 'was' as well.

    I say they are similar because HRC defends Obama's policies and was in his administration and like Bush Trump believes in trickle down economics and unilateral military intervention.

    And you may very well not be but again why would you admit it?
    so you won't even link me to this poster?

    can even be a pm

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    Coal Bear nailing it LIVE from New York!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqMQDiIiHbk

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    Surprise surprise...already rumblings of Trump pulling out of further debates. hater

    https://www.google.com/amp/www.nbcne...?client=safari

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    After watching that debate, sleeping on it, I've come to the conclusion that we are so ed.

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    After watching that debate, sleeping on it, I've come to the conclusion that we are so ed.
    And un able?

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    the moderator pressed trump a few times... about the birther issue, about his iraq stance, and about the stop and frisk issue, and trump came away looking bad after all those. he was completely evasive and was straight up having a panic attack with the "ask hannity!" stuff.

    but in fairness, i didnt really see the moderator grilling hillary at all on anything... all the talk about cyber security and they didnt grill her on her email issue.

    it's not a matter of how important it is or isn't, but a matter of being fair to both candidates. if they were going to lock in and grill trump on a few things, they should have put shillary in a similarly tough spot at least once. i'm also pretty surprised trump didnt attack her harder on the cyber stuff

    He didn't want to get Matt Lauer'ed

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    Draw.

    Trump is still picking up the pieces.
    You can argue that it's a draw if you think Hillary didn't actually win, which is a fair point, because of her mechanical sounding statements that we all know are lip service at this point... no way in Trump won, though. He won the very first question... that's it.

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    Trump getting on by everyone. His advisers telling him to not go to another debate.

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    Anyone thinking Hillary didn't win this debate by a ing huge margin.

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    I don't disagree with your line of thought. I just get the feeling she's going to be a terrible president, despite Trump potentially being even worse.

    There's a lot to criticize Barry for, but I always thought the meme of worst POTUS ever was unwarranted. It wasn't all bad, nor all the bad entirely his fault. I actually think he'll probably be remembered in much better light than his predecessor, and he looks to be walking out of office with about a 50% approval rating, which is pretty impressive considering the current polarization.

    I just think either of these two are going to be worse by a long mile. I freely admit it's just a gut feeling, nothing more.
    You have to consider that there's a good chance HRC's health won't hold up too long and she won't run after her first term... , she might not be healthy enough to last the whole first term, in which case it's too bad Hillary picked mundane Kaine instead of someone better like Cuomo or Uncle Joe.

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    Anyone thinking Hillary is going to do a bad job as POTUS.

    gots.

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    Trump getting on by everyone. His advisers telling him to not go to another debate.
    So the guy who brags about his toughness is just going to quit?

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    FkLA who are you voting for? Stein? Johnson?

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    So the guy who brags about his toughness is just going to quit?
    I don't know, but his right hand men, are telling him to quit the debates. Guess he got murdered right?

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    You have to consider that there's a good chance HRC's health won't hold up too long and she won't run after her first term... , she might not be healthy enough to last the whole first term, in which case it's too bad Hillary picked mundane Kaine instead of someone better like Cuomo or Uncle Joe.
    You're still talking about her health?

    She was the one who looked solid and Trump the one who looked weak. Guy was sniffling all night and drinking water non-stop.

    Hillary never touched hers.

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    So the guy who brags about his toughness is just going to quit?
    "By The Way, That's Smart"

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    Trump said that he thought his Democratic rival Hillary Clinton struggled during the first part of the debate.

    “I thought she was very bad in the first half when they were asking normal questions and when they were asking unfair questions, she got better,” he said.

    “And what grade do you give Lester Holt?” asked host Steve Doocy.

    “I give him a C, C+,” Trump said.

    “I thought he was okay, I thought he was fine. I mean nothing outstanding. He gave me very unfair questions at the end, the last three, four questions, but I’m not complaining about that. I thought he was okay.

    http://www.mediaite.com/tv/donald-tr...t-complaining/

    Typical establishment Repug or Fox Nooze employee: living in fantasy world.



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    Topics that were announced on Sept. 19

    * America's Direction
    * Achieving Prosperity
    * Securing America


    Topics actually talked about

    tax returns: check
    birtherism: check
    stop and frisk: check
    TRUMP's support of Iraq war: check
    climate change denial: check

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