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  1. #1051
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    That's 5+ weeks in a row of coming home to your bed every single night and getting your sucked by Olivia Munn. Must be nice to be Aaron Rodgers.


    But seriously, a FOUR game home stand? Forget the bye... I don't know if a 4 game home stand has ever existed Goodell knows the NFL's pet favorite team is struggling a bit and needs help to get back on track... He's not stupid.
    Well the Packers do get a three game road trek later on.

    Last week we saw the Panthers at home after a Thursday night game, the Niners on the road after a Monay night game flying back east. That just ain't right.

    No team should ever start off on the road the first two games of a new season or at home two weeks in a row.

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    I have ATL over NO and PHI over PIT but looks like we're the same otherwise
    NO is 10-2 SU last 12 on MNF. Under Sean Peyton 4-2 vs Falcons. That is a 14-4 trend in this "spot". I like that. Now add the fact the Falcons are on the road again, that is never a good spot.

    Last season the Falcons were rolling at 5=0, the first game they lost, yep, in NO.

    Big Ben vs a rookie QB, I'll take that. And will the Eagles be thinking about that week off? That is a very real factor as is coming off a bye. Now add the Eagles are 0-10 off back to back wins vs non division opposition.

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    Well the Packers do get a three game road trek later on.

    Last week we saw the Panthers at home after a Thursday night game, the Niners on the road after a Monay night game flying back east. That just ain't right.

    No team should ever start off on the road the first two games of a new season or at home two weeks in a row.
    Ideally not, but it's impractical to guarantee every single team one home and one away game in the first 2 weeks of the season... I do think that no team should get a 3 game home or road stand.

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    NO is 10-2 SU last 12 on MNF. Under Sean Peyton 4-2 vs Falcons. That is a 14-4 trend in this "spot". I like that. Now add the fact the Falcons are on the road again, that is never a good spot.

    Last season the Falcons were rolling at 5=0, the first game they lost, yep, in NO.

    Big Ben vs a rookie QB, I'll take that. And will the Eagles be thinking about that week off? That is a very real factor as is coming off a bye. Now add the Eagles are 0-10 off back to back wins vs non division opposition.
    True about the ATL/NO stuff, but I just think NO sucks hard this year, in general, most especially on defense. The albatross Brees contract has put the clamps on their ability to acquire and retain talent and it's really hurt them; they've become basically the Colts of the NFC, a team with a top 10 QB but a lousy dearth of football talent around him.

    Also, the Falcons are improved under their good young coach, Dan Quinn. I may be wrong, but I like the Falcons here.


    As for the Eagles, they won't want to be going into the bye on a sour note, and for now their defense is even better than their offense while Pitt has a great offense but iffy at best defense... should be an interesting battle.

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    True about the ATL/NO stuff, but I just think NO sucks hard this year, in general, most especially on defense. The albatross Brees contract has put the clamps on their ability to acquire and retain talent and it's really hurt them; they've become basically the Colts of the NFC, a team with a top 10 QB but a lousy dearth of football talent around him.

    Also, the Falcons are improved under their good young coach, Dan Quinn. I may be wrong, but I like the Falcons here.


    As for the Eagles, they won't want to be going into the bye on a sour note, and for now their defense is even better than their offense while Pitt has a great offense but iffy at best defense... should be an interesting battle.
    Don't think the Eagles aren't making plans for a week off, yes it is a known distraction.

    New Orleans 24-18 at home in Sept, Falcons 21-27 on the road. All the numbers point to the Saints in this "spot". And they are more desperate being 0-2 and have never had two seasons back to back 0-3 in the last decade.

    Saints at home on MNF (10-2) needing a win in the worst way vs a team on the road again, Saints the pick.
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    The early (key words) success of Carson Wentz got me thinking of the best NFL QB;s out of non Power Five/ND confrences (will go with current)

    Kurt Warner
    Tony Romo
    Joe Flacco
    Big Ben
    Phil Simms
    Ken Anderson
    Roger Staubach
    Steve Young
    Steve McNair
    Ryan Fitzpatrick
    Daryl Lamonica
    Terry Bradshaw
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    If ya saw the Cowboys vs Bears game ya also saw a video of Ezekial Elliott winning Missouri State in the 110hh.

    He was a 10.9 100m guy(Reggie Bush ran a 10.4) and a 13.7 (lower hurdle that NCAA) hurdler which is...decent.

    Actually.

    100 Meters
    2011 Outdoor 10 11.10a
    2012 Outdoor 11 11.03a
    2013 Outdoor 12 10.95a
    200 Meters
    2013 Outdoor 12 22.05a
    110m Hurdles - 39"
    2010 Outdoor 9 14.68a
    2011 Outdoor 10 14.13a
    2012 Outdoor 11 14.13a
    2013 Outdoor 12 13.77a


    There have been a few RB's who were also 110 hurdlers in HS.

    Hugh "The King" McElhenny
    Tyrone Wheatley
    James Owens...became a world class hurdler at UCLA, 13.4
    Roger Craig
    Paul Lowe
    Todd Gurley
    Jamaal Charles
    Milt Campbell was an Olympic decathon gold medalist, his best event was the 110hh where he was world class at 13.4 in the 50's.
    Charles White was a Cali State champ in the 300m hurdles.(HS event only)
    Paul Robinson the first 1000 yard rusher for the Bengals was a 400m hurdler while at Arizona.

    While you have heard how RGIII was a world class hurdler, that is bogus, what he really was was a good NCAA 400m hurdler, nothing more. I do think it's save to say he is the fastest athlete to ever play QB in the NFL. Yes, he would smoke Vick in a 100m.
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    It's about an hour from MNF and I just heard the Saints will be without 5 defensive starters and their leading receiver, so I gotta change my pick to the Falcons. I do hate to ignore that 10-2 trend but with half your defense hurt, sheesh~~~~

    I'll probably regret it, yep, sometimes knowing too much is not good.

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    As of right now, the pecking order.

    Falcons
    Panthers...Cam too caught up in celebrity?
    Buc's
    Saints

    Eagles...surprise so far.
    Giants
    Cowboys
    Redskins

    Vikes
    Packers
    Lions
    Bears

    Seahawks
    Cards....Carson Palmer/defense fading?
    Rams
    Niners

    Pats....Belichick~~~~~~~~
    Jets
    Bills
    Dolphins

    Broncos....better than 2015?
    Chiefs
    Raiders
    Chargers

    Texans...weak ass division.
    Colts
    ans
    Jags

    Ravens...Steelers actually belong here.
    Steelers
    Bengals
    Browns....Johnny Manziel, RGIII....but can't use Carson Wentz, hahahaha~~~~~~~~

    Looking at points scored vs given up, the best...Eagles at plus 7, the worst...Bears minus 4
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    Kaepernick about to take over as the starter?

    Doesn't Kelly know running a speeded up offense unless ya can sustain drives brings your D right back out there? This is another reason ya want a stud running game, ya give your D a blow.

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    Ok, another 10-6 week, giving me 32-16 SU. and it looks like next week I'll start giving out $$$$$ winning ATS plays, I found a local to take my action.

    A few "spots" I;m considering.

    Ravens are 6-0 ATS last six vs Raiders, 9-3 last 12. They are at home vs a Raider team doing some serious traveling. The Raiders in back to back road games, not good. And they barely beat a weak ass ans team, the Ravens a far better team.

    The Texans coming off a loss vs a team they are 5-1 ATS last 6, at home. The ans suck as a RD.

    The Lions coming off a loss vs a bad Bears team, a team they are 6-2 ATS last 8 against.

    While no ATS trends here, the Skins feeling good about themselves vs a bad Browns team....hmmm?

    Just a few "spots" that got my attention early in the week. It is all about searching out the best 3/5 "spots" from an ATS perspective that week, yep, homework.

    Speaking of homework, the Raiders as a RD the last three seasons....14-8, the Ravens as a HF...8-10-1. So forget that one.
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    The commercial jinx?

    RGIII always hurt, pretty much done.
    Peyton Manning was laughed at his last season. Dumped by Colts.
    Aaron Rodgers is always being.....what's wrong?
    Colin Kaepernick....a joke.
    Andrew Luck...INT INT INT FUMBLE
    Drew Brees...0-3
    JJ Watt...out for the season
    Cam Newton....1-2 and a cry baby over a SB loss
    Russell Wilson....ankle??? knee???
    O.J.Simpson....in prison

    Todd Gurley???
    Antonio Brown???

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    The commercial jinx?

    RGIII always hurt, pretty much done.
    Peyton Manning was laughed at his last season. Dumped by Colts.
    Aaron Rodgers is always being.....what's wrong?
    Colin Kaepernick....a joke.
    Andrew Luck...INT INT INT FUMBLE
    Drew Brees...0-3
    JJ Watt...out for the season
    Cam Newton....1-2 and a cry baby over a SB loss
    Russell Wilson....ankle??? knee???
    O.J.Simpson....in prison

    Todd Gurley???
    Antonio Brown???
    yep...Arnold Palmer, Tiger Woods, the pitcher in Florida. All have made commercials.

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    yep...Arnold Palmer, Tiger Woods, the pitcher in Florida. All have made commercials.
    Add

    Tony Romo...sitting on the bench hurt.
    Gronk...hurt, missing games.

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    Tony Romo...sitting on the bench hurt.
    Gronk...hurt, missing games.
    Keenan Allen, Donte Moncrief

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    Tim Tebow hits a HR at his very first time at the plate in a game.

    That's right there with the very first play in SD Charger history RB Paul Lowe goes 105 yards with a KO return to score.

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    Tim Tebow hits a HR at his very first time at the plate in a game.

    That's right there with the very first play in SD Charger history RB Paul Lowe goes 105 yards with a KO return to score.
    And right up there with North Southern State running the old Hurley Gurley on Kentucky U of M.

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    And right up there with North Southern State running the old Hurley Gurley on Kentucky U of M.
    When I was in HS the big star at my school was Jody Graves, he was 6-4 270 pounds, an offensive and defensive tackle, he destroyed guys and never left the field. He was a great guy, class president, he was also the wrestling champ.

    In our last game of the season vs our rival Redwood we have a good lead and the game in the bag. Jody had always wanted to play RB, but we had good backs and he was needed on those lines. So with less than a minute to go, there is Jody at RB. He takes the handoff, hits the hole, runs over a backer, then a safety and is gone, yep, he out runs those speedy cornerbacks. 68 yards TD.

    A 6-4 270 pound RB.

    He'd end up at Stanford.

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    When I was in HS the big star at my school was Jody Graves, he was 6-4 270 pounds, an offensive and defensive tackle, he destroyed guys and never left the field. He was a great guy, class president, he was also the wrestling champ.

    In our last game of the season vs our rival Redwood we have a good lead and the game in the bag. Jody had always wanted to play RB, but we had good backs and he was needed on those lines. So with less than a minute to go, there is Jody at RB. He takes the handoff, hits the hole, runs over a backer, then a safety and is gone, yep, he out runs those speedy cornerbacks. 68 yards TD.

    A 6-4 270 pound RB.

    He'd end up at Stanford.
    Good athletes can generally play multiple positions in multiple sports. I was also a baseballer. Yep...pitcher. Didn't have the "classic" windup and delivery. Just stood up there and threw. Wasn't bad in the outfield either but this one time, I was chasing after a fly ball deep in right field. I lost sight of the ball and it bounced off my head and yep...over the wall. Home run.

    After the inning was over and I was coming back to the dug out, I could tell the guys were wanting to have a laugh at the play. I gave them that look that said, "grrrrrrr...It's not funny right now...let's win the game and then maybe we can laugh about it later".

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    Good athletes can generally play multiple positions in multiple sports. I was also a baseballer. Yep...pitcher. Didn't have the "classic" windup and delivery. Just stood up there and threw. Wasn't bad in the outfield either but this one time, I was chasing after a fly ball deep in right field. I lost sight of the ball and it bounced off my head and yep...over the wall. Home run.

    After the inning was over and I was coming back to the dug out, I could tell the guys were wanting to have a laugh at the play. I gave them that look that said, "grrrrrrr...It's not funny right now...let's win the game and then maybe we can laugh about it later".

    Bounced off your head, hahaha~~~~~~ And I can relate....

    We are in Hanford, I'm back to return a punt. I lose the ball in the lights, yep. bounced right off my helmet, bounced high in the air and one of those down to crush me catchs it and...TOUCHDOWN. I was saved by a holding penalty.


    A couple of my cousins live in Hanford and were there to see the game. So everytime I'd see them for a long time they'd do a little....thump off my head...routine, ha~~~

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    Bounced off your head, hahaha~~~~~~ And I can relate....

    We are in Hanford, I'm back to return a punt. I lose the ball in the lights, yep. bounced right off my helmet, bounced high in the air and one of those down to crush me catchs it and...TOUCHDOWN. I was saved by a holding penalty.


    A couple of my cousins live in Hanford and were there to see the game. So everytime I'd see them for a long time they'd do a little....thump off my head...routine, ha~~~
    I always wondered why a player receiving a punt doesn't do the following:

    Sees the punt and takes several steps back from where it's going to land. Then puts up his hand (fair catch) and act like he's going to catch the ball. But then at the last second, runs forward to where the ball is really going to land and look to make contact with the coverage team.

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    Fake fair catches have been done before in both the NFL and college, a bunch of times actually.

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    I always wondered why a player receiving a punt doesn't do the following:

    Sees the punt and takes several steps back from where it's going to land. Then puts up his hand (fair catch) and act like he's going to catch the ball. But then at the last second, runs forward to where the ball is really going to land and look to make contact with the coverage team.
    How do you think the coach would see that?

    I never thought about it back then, the thought 10 guys were coming down to clobber me was a non factor. I see it now watching football. I liked punt returns better than kickoffs, there ya have to do some plotting, where returning punts is all instincts.

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    How do you think the coach would see that?

    I never thought about it back then, the thought 10 guys were coming down to clobber me was a non factor. I see it now watching football. I liked punt returns better than kickoffs, there ya have to do some plotting, where returning punts is all instincts.
    If the coverage is good enough to merit a fair catch, why not get the extra 15 yards.

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    Kaepernick about to take over as the starter?

    Doesn't Kelly know running a speeded up offense unless ya can sustain drives brings your D right back out there? This is another reason ya want a stud running game, ya give your D a blow.
    Krapernick?

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