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Sick of the media stirring up anti police bull with their twisted reporting.
Leading to this :
El Cajon, San Diego
When actually this is what police had 0.5 seconds to react to:
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Sick of the media stirring up anti police bull with their twisted reporting.
Leading to this :
El Cajon, San Diego
Horrible without citation.
Crowds gather after police kill unarmed black man in California
http://www.reuters.com/article/us-us...-idUSKCN11Y0SV
CNN originally had "Police kill unarmed man"
Conveniently leaving out that phat phuck had been asked a dozen times to stop and then reached into his pocket and came out looking like the photo in OP.
They have since changed their tune.
Police killing of unarmed black man in San Diego sparks protest The Guardian.
Is that enough for ya Sugarplum?
California police officer fatally shoots reportedly unarmed, mentally challenged man
NY Daily News
Not really. You should come correct in threads where you are trying to slam folks for not having journalistic integrity.
Andat acting like a grainy (and STILL
) images to our eyes is what the cops like a few yards away saw. Of course it looks confusing to us with nothing to go on but a picture with poor resolution taken from 50 feet away.
And this really does underscore FromWayDowntown 's points that officers are supposed to be trained to deal with impaired people and that it was obvious that some cops clearly understand that deadly force isn't necessary in these cases. If that guy had some sort of palsy that made his hand like that, there was literally nothing he could've done that would've led to him surviving that situation.
Without getting into the facts of this particular case, since I admittedly don't know them, I go back to things I've said here for a while:
1. Why is the first response by officers lethal force? Why not a taser or pepper spray or something else that isn't lethal, particularly when the "suspect" hasn't been suspected of a crime?
2. If there is to be a shooting, why shouldn't the shots be aimed to injure rather than kill the person? Shooting that guy in the leg likely would have stopped any threat against the officers and allowed him to live to see another day instead of facing summary execution on the street.
3. As Chinook again suggests, this scares me for people who might be inclined to comply with commands, but either can't understand or can't hear what they're being told.
I understand this guy went for his pocket and then came up to position that we see in the still posted by OP. Suppose for one second, though, that he's deaf and he went to his pocket to pull out a notepad so that he could write a note to the officers to say "I'm deaf and only communicate in writing or in sign language." But the way that he does it appears threatening to a scared cop because: (1) he has to go to his pocket; and (2) he has to bring something up towards his face to write the note. Instead of trying to figure out the situation, the cop opens fire and kills a completely innocent person who was simply trying to communicate a problem. I understand that wasn't necessarily what happened here, but it has happened before and in the current climate, it seems very likely to happen to some innocent person who wants very much to comply.
It's precisely why #1 and #2 are such relevant questions, to me at least.
From the pic posted in the OP that guy is definitely in notepad stance
I didn't say he was. I also don't see anything in the pic that suggested that the cops' only recourse was shooting to kill.
I agree with this. But they need to develop better non lethal force alternatives. Tasers and pepper spray are far from 100% effective.
Agree. It's called Tactical Threat Neutralization. Would have been ideal in this case. They could have easily shot the guys hands.
Maybe they could've fired a warning shot that just grazed his ear to scare him.
You watch too many movies.
Last time I was pulled over by a cop, it was right in my drive way. As I started to get out he says..."stay in your truck". Which I did. (I was speeding, got a warning) Now if I would have hassled with the guy no telling what might have happened and me being a big guy he would have been afraid if I'd came towards him.
Cops are simply fed up with blacks not respecting their commands, and all the trouble they cause them. You wanna get fired at work, just make your boss have to work harder because of you.
Here in central Cali it's the Mexicans and cops are...."what is wrong with those people, my God they are dumb"....I know a few cops, actually related to a couple by marriage.
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What else is new. Media loves pushing narratives that will goad the Dindu Nuffin's into rioting and sniping at cops so they'll have even juicer stories to drive up ratings for a few days. Funny how so many of the blm types still show up chanting "hands up, don't shoot!" Apparently they're still unaware how that narrative in Ferguson quickly turned out to be complete bull when witnesses started talking to a grand jury. I guess facing possible perjury charges has a way of bringing out the truth.
Noncompliance (which for whites is barely a meaningful misdemeanor, in Texas at least) is a capital offense now for black guys, no matter the cir stances, I guess.
There's no alternative -- shoot to kill or nothing, I guess.
Lighten, up Francis...you do have to admit that of all the hypothetical scenarios one could conjure up, that was the most asinine given the photographic evidence
here we go...
Sorry, but it's not like in the movies where the quick-draw lawman is able quickly take a little off the shoulder to get the bad guy to stop what he's doing. In real life, cops are still just scared people who are afraid they're about to get shot and killed. Nobody's taking the time to stop and aim at that point.
Sorry, that seemed to be Avante's point.here we go...
I'm not sure why my scenario was asinine; it just didn't describe that particular picture, but its a pretty long way from implausible at this point, given that noncompliance and reaching for a pocket seems to be enough to justify a shooting.
In his book SATCHMO, Louis Armstrong talks about being raised in the Storyville region of New Orleans, that is the black ghetto. He talks about how as a kid he'd be laying in bed at nights hearing screams and gun shots, and fights, and crying and people begging. He talked about how the cops just stayed out of there, they just didn't care about black on black killings, stabbings, and beatings. They had this....let them jiggaboos kill themselves off...stance.
Black men need to raise their kids, those one parent at home kids need to cool peddling drugs and roaming the streets causing trouble, until that happens they need to stop complaining about how they are being treated. Also would help if they cooled rapping like.... THE POLICE.
Now look at those African nations and all the troubles they have.
So the deaths of innocents is just a cost of doing business when it comes to modern policing?
This is exactly what is always missed. These geniuses expect cops to shoot cigarettes out of people's mouths. Like the officer is going to be able to shoot potential weapons out of the person's hand
Yes, that's exactly what I said.
You may not know much about real life policing situations, but you've certainly got the strawman thing figured out.
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