David West knew he was going to GSW since the day they lost Game 6

[Chinook]

that's his schtick, tbh.... we're probably gonna bout it out with Harlem all season about Draymond being overrated vs underrated....

Did he give up on Westbrook?

[ElNono]

Did he give up on Westbrook?

I don't think so, but we're actually on the same side of the schtick on det one

[-21-]

I got nothing against West but screw the Warriors!!! They really are "light years" ahead.

IIRC they were recruiting Durant all throughout last season. Even during the OKC series.

[Clipper Nation]

GSW putting Silver on the spot pushing the envelope like they own the league. First with their nut kicking going unpunished until they messed with LeBron, big mistake. LeBron had to place the league in an uncomfortable spot bc otherwise they don't do anything.

Now GSW player publicly admitting being recruited well b4 FA. I guess it could be argued West could have gone there anyways once they called him when FA started but it's really tampering if they called like this implies, the night they lost a playoff game when the guy is still upset etc. With emotions of frustration all over the place. It's low and yes, tampering. Wouldn't surprise me if they did the same with Durant and Pachulia, all players in teams they defeated, reaching out soon after the defeat when emotions are all over the place. Wow. It's low.

Don't forget, the Warriors also used Iguodala as a mole during their series against the Nuggets a few years ago and then traded for him in the offseason.

The Warriors have become the league's dirtiest team both on and off the court. And it's pathetic that with all the cheating they've done, they've only "won" one asterisk ring because the rest of the league was injured.

[Clipper Nation]

Yeah.. that got a bit.. confusing from him.

It could be worse though, he could have done all that while being a superstar in his prime, like Lebron .

LeBron didn't do that. He went to a Miami team that had been treadmilling for a couple years before he arrived, then he went back to Cleveland just as the Cavs had become the most dysfunctional franchise in the league again.

[NameLess Scrub]

LeBron didn't do that. He went to a Miami team that had been treadmilling for a couple years before he arrived, then he went back to Cleveland just as the Cavs had become the most dysfunctional franchise in the league again.

You're right.

But in my opinion, there's is not much difference. Both MIA and GSW were super teams after KD/Lebron joined. Lebron just didn't join a franchise that was already there.

Which is probably the mistake Durant made. He could have taken the '92 dream team to the 76ers and it would have looked more "honorable" even though the result is the same: a super team made to out talent opposition.

My point is, I don't hold it too much against almost retiring star veterans that ring chase, because they've become role players.

[J_Paco]

He lost a lot of money due to joining our failing franchise. He expected to play deep in the playoffs but Pop had other ideas by playing scrubs like Manu loads of minutes.

Cant blame him for at least wanting a ring in exchange for all that money

Last time I check nothing is guaranteed in sports. He could conceivably come up short in Golden State, especially if he is forced to play a bigger role against an unfavorable matchup (like last season).

The supposed tampering and "disrespect" he allegedly felt last season is indicative of the fact that he was a bad fit. He was just too small, old and not explosive enough to make a huge difference. Jury is still out if Dedmon, Lee or Anderson (most likely Dwayne) is an upgrade over him.

Manu wasn't a positive enough impact player, but he was far from the reason they lost last season.

[J_Paco]

Thanks for the perspective.

West and Boban were essentially replacements for Ayres and Baynes, and I was thankful we had them for a season. The front court situation could've been worse.

That is just a silly take especially when Baynes was "ready" to play bigger minutes or a bigger role. I'm fine with the signing of both with such few (quality) options, but I won't pretend that having Splitter (healthy) and Baynes around wouldn't have been much more preferable.

[GSH]

I don't hate on West because of this. I wish him exactly the same success that Richard Jefferson had in Golden State.

[dabom]

I don't hate on West because of this. I wish him exactly the same success that Richard Jefferson had in Golden State.

2 huge missed free throws.

[Brazil]

dat salt

dude gave 12M to have a shot at a ring, did not work, he gonna try it again with GSW... good for him... not sure what's the big deal

[GSH]

2 huge missed free throws.

And a second round loss to the Spurs. Maybe instead of missed FTs, West will commit two or three stupid fouls at critical times. I'm not picky.

[MultiTroll]

Great role contributor on 67 win team with 2-1 lead in the 2nd round.
Pop and ThunderRef happens.
STFU Spurphan.

[Snaq O'Meal]

That is just a silly take especially when Baynes was "ready" to play bigger minutes or a bigger role. I'm fine with the signing of both with such few (quality) options, but I won't pretend that having Splitter (healthy) and Baynes around wouldn't have been much more preferable.

Baynes ceased to be an option after getting a huge offer from the Pistons. Splitter needed to go in order to make way for LMA. Who else did you think the Spurs could acquire (and who is also willing to sign for a meagre price) given the salary situation at that time?

[tonight...you]

I don't hate on West because of this. I wish him exactly the same success that Richard Jefferson had in Golden State.

Oh... so awesome.

[hooperflash]

And a second round loss to the Spurs. Maybe instead of missed FTs, West will commit two or three stupid fouls at critical times. I'm not picky.

or just give up a ton of rebounds, crucial ones at that... tbh

[still.focused]

Lee > West

[cjw]

If the Warriors did in fact get a "nod" from West before the season was over / period began to start contacting other teams FAs, this definitely did cons ute tampering. Warriors could make a series of other moves knowing full well they had at the very least a backup PF for 10 minutes a night (e.g., letting Speights walk). Also, while Spurs had Bird rights he wasn't technically a free agent. Still had player option.

That said, the Spurs getting RJ to opt-out was also a little sketchy. West wasn't coming back anyway and could get more than the Spurs' offer.

[Dex]

Huh....didn't realize David West was a little !!

Seriously tho...he came to the Spurs ring-hunting just like he is going to Golden State and we didn't mind reaping the supposed benefits then so...it is what it is.

Still pretty ed up if they reached out to him before the season even ended tho.

[hooperflash]

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[TD 21]

If the Warriors did in fact get a "nod" from West before the season was over / period began to start contacting other teams FAs, this definitely did cons ute tampering. Warriors could make a series of other moves knowing full well they had at the very least a backup PF for 10 minutes a night (e.g., letting Speights walk). Also, while Spurs had Bird rights he wasn't technically a free agent. Still had player option.

That said, the Spurs getting RJ to opt-out was also a little sketchy. West wasn't coming back anyway and could get more than the Spurs' offer.

Yeah, even though everyone knows it goes on, it's different when you're caught or in this case foolishly state it.

Since West did just that, no "investigation" should be required and the league should just dole out punishment, but I'm sure nothing will be done.

At least with Jefferson, it was their own player. I also find it hard to believe that the Spurs are so arrogant and classless to reach out to a player the same day his team is eliminated, especially one that had legit championship aspirations.

Huh....didn't realize David West was a little !!

Seriously tho...he came to the Spurs ring-hunting just like he is going to Golden State and we didn't mind reaping the supposed benefits then so...it is what it is.

Still pretty ed up if they reached out to him before the season even ended tho.

That was different. The Spurs appeared to have a legit chance, among 3 or 4 others. They weren't the biggest overwhelming favorites in at least 20 years (probably ever), he didn't leave an elite team to join them and they weren't the 2nd time he did this.

[Dex]

That was different. The Spurs appeared to have a legit chance, among 3 or 4 others. They weren't the biggest overwhelming favorites in at least 20 years (probably ever), he didn't leave an elite team to join them and they weren't the 2nd time he did this.

Perhaps different, but not by that much of a long shot. Keep in mind that when he came to San Antonio...sure, Golden State had just come off of a le, but that was hardly a blowout. , Lebron and the Cavs B-team managed to push them to 6 games.

Nobody knew then that the Warriors would be a historic 73-win team. They also weren't a lock to make the Finals again, considering they almost (and probably SHOULD have) gotten knocked out by the Thunder after going down 1-3.

Everything seems clear in hindsight, but when the season started....the Spurs with newly-acquired LMA, DPOY Kawhi, Duncan, Manu, Parker, Green, and West looked like just as much of a super-team as Golden State was at that point, and they were pretty much 1A and 1B the entire season. That's why the playoffs are a different beast entirely, as evidenced by OKC's upset of SA, GSW's upset of OKC, and CLE's upset of GSW.

The fact that West gave up 11M to come to SA for a le-shot, when he could have had a spot in GSW for similar money, shows that he apparently felt the same way.

Don't get me wrong...I do believe that anybody flocking to GSW now for an easy ring is a beta move, just as it was when all the veterans were flocking to Miami to play with Lebron. Then again, when you've been in the league for 10+ years and haven't even sniffed the Finals...who can really blame him, especially as a role player?

But let's not pretend like anybody outside of San Antonio didn't think the same thing when he came to the Spurs. To be honest, it's kind of on the Spurs (West included) for not being able to deliver.

[hooperflash]

[quentin_compson]

I never liked West, not before he was with the Spurs, not much when he was with the Spurs, and that's that. On the court, his whole tough guy act to me always seemed to be more about him than anything else.
But heck, he came to the Spurs because he thought he could win a ring here, and now he's doing more or less the same with the Warrriors. Complaining about one but defending the other seems kind of hypocritical.

[GSH]

If the Warriors did in fact get a "nod" from West before the season was over / period began to start contacting other teams FAs, this definitely did cons ute tampering. Warriors could make a series of other moves knowing full well they had at the very least a backup PF for 10 minutes a night (e.g., letting Speights walk).

A backup PF at a cheap price. Imagine of the Spurs had knowledge that Pau was willing to sign for, say, $10M per season. Think how much more they would have been able to give Manu.

Yeah, even though everyone knows it goes on, it's different when you're caught or in this case foolishly state it.

Don't think we're the only ones to notice it. Tampering is serious , and the other owners are likely to have something to say about it. West was probably just talking off the top of his head, but if it really happened before the deadline? I'd bet on there being some kind of repercussions. They couldn't just ignore it and set precedent.