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A capital offense, obviously.
Obnoxious, ability to block traffic, ability to stand in front of stores and obstruct customers. Idle handed.
A capital offense, obviously.
Do you guys think the protestors could be dispersed by offers of free watermelon and chicken?
No way. Why would it be an offense of any type to be a cook at Hooters?
I'm hoping the media will interview his co workers.
City of El Cajon mayor alienating the entire police force:
Mayor Bill Wells said he had seen the video and that it was not "tremendously complicated to figure out what happened."
"I saw a man who was distraught, and a man acting like he was in great pain," Wells said. "And I saw him get gunned down and killed. If he was my son, I would be devastated."
Seriously dude?
Lighten up, Francis.
I will say that CNN's come out and said the object was a vaper (or whatever the name is for those E-cig things). So the palsey angle isn't really going to apply here. Could definitely see people thinking it was a weapon if the guy wanted it to look like one. Still need to release that vid, though. It's mad-sketchy that they released something that painted them in the best light possible while playing the "evidence for an investigation" card when it comes to the rest of it.
The picture clearly shows him in gun pointing mode.
Perhaps the reason for cherry picking that picture, at this moment is so the protesting chimps, the *professional* ones/ and those who have no real interest in any fairness what so ever.....cannot stir up another Ferguson.
Right? you would have to throw in some pigs feet and a pack of Kools
Yeah, that's not the way it works. If you purposefully only show something that makes you look as good as possible, people aren't going to take it at face value. Again, this isn't a photo. It's a still. Who knows what it looked like a frame before or after? I'm not keen to bury the cops over this, but the department looks sketchy as right now.The picture clearly shows him in gun pointing mode.
Perhaps the reason for cherry picking that picture, at this moment is so the protesting chimps, the *professional* ones/ and those who have no real interest in any fairness what so ever.....cannot stir up another Ferguson.
It is exactly the way it works. Instigater Protester looking to stir up has NO interest in what really might be true.
Ferguson.
San Diego City, County State et al police depts. have signed off on a protocol for when video will be released. That squaking protester wants it released today is not how it happens. Now as to Legit Protester wanting to see the video, I agree it should be released. In time.
They've already violated that by releasing a still. It already taints the water. Nothing about it proves the officers' stories. It's only a small step up from talking about a person's criminal record.
It'd be nice if you were as skeptical of sensationalist media as you are with the police. We saw how the media mishandled Ferguson, not to mention the pathetic approach to the Trayvon Martin incident (wittle ol' 12 y/o Trayvonpic juxtaposed with Zimmerman mugshot).
Photograph, still, whatever you want to call it--what the is that idiot doing in mexican stand-off posture with the police?
I know this has been touched on already, but if a cop has to fire his gun, they are trained to aim for center mass. Period. It's the biggest target with less chance of an innocent bystander getting hit, and it's usually enough to stop the suspect.
Now whether or not firing the weapon at all was justified is another question.
Not always the case though. If the guy has a gun and gets shot in the chest, there is still a chance for him to get some shots off. However, if the police were trained in Tactical Threat Neutralization, they could have shot the guy's hands. Which would 1) neutralize the threat and 2) keep the guy alive.
You don't remember my posts in those threads, do you?It'd be nice if you were as skeptical of sensationalist media as you are with the police. We saw how the media mishandled Ferguson, not to mention the pathetic approach to the Trayvon Martin incident (wittle ol' 12 y/o Trayvon
Because it being a still allows for it to have not been a "posture" and more of a movement. If it were a photo, then someone would have had to get out their camera and actually click the shutter to get the image. Even if you have your phone out, the photo would suggest someone that wasn't transient.Photograph, still, whatever you want to call it--what the is that idiot doing in mexican stand-off posture with the police?
I'm sure you've paused videos at interesting moments and caught the image in an interesting position. If you take that still and show it off, you can create a misleading perception about the contents of the video. That's the type of criticism the police open themselves up to by only sharing a still that makes them seem right. It's extremely sketchy.
at what point would you be engaged in that stance when talking to authorities, even in a moment of passing? ffs he has the same posture as the fuzz. Who reaches for license, registration, a "notepad," a kleenex, ing anything THAT intently? I'm trying to envision a scenario when I would pose like that in ANY situation, and I can't think of anything.
Did we figure out that the guy wasn't mentally impaired? I can't imagine him being a cook with palsey, but that was just my baseless speculation. But the I thought the article said the guy was impaired.
Anyway, his is just circling back to the conversation we had yesterday. I understand that you can do something stupid and get shot. But that doesn't mean that the people who shot you can write it off. More than one party can be to blame.
and to answer your question...no, I don't remember your posts in those threads (nor anybody else's for that matter). If you called it right in those threads then props. As long as you weren't doing everything to absolve the perp's actions.
I ain't black (obviously), but where I'm currently located Americans in general are treated like s . That Soviet, anti-west sentiment is still going strong on this side. If you have a blue passport you aren't getting served at restaurants, people are always su ious of you, and you're unnecessarily searched/interrogated at almost every checkpoint, with either an AK or a PKM pointed in your general direction. I'm further at a disadvantage because I can't effectively communicate with them due to language barrier. I've found that cooperation, keeping my hands visible, and no sudden movements usually works.
I know the cir stances are different...I have no idea what it's like to be a minority in America (well, not yet), but do know what it's like to be hated by people who are looking for any good reason to shoot you. My point is this: I can't change where I'm from, just like they can't change the color of their skin. That being said, knowing you could be unjustly targeted is all the more reason to take very simple risk-mitigation measures when approached by armed personnel who could justifiably take your life.
Situational awareness...it's not a guarantee you'll live, but nobody's come up with a better realistic alternative.
of course they search you.
your name is deadly
lol tou-che, salesman
Yeah, I was huge into situational awareness being the main focus of Martin and especially Brown. I wasn't a fan of the way Michael was martyred and glorified at all. When I went on my road trip, I kept my license and insurance info in a lanyard around my neck so it was clearly visible to police prior to them asking me to hand it over. There was no reaching into my pocket of glove compartment. Of course, my friend had his in his wallet, so when he reached for it I thought I was about to watch him die.
Anyway, being safe is important given the reality, but I think there's a major gap between what you should prepare to give and what the other people are en led to take. And that's not just in the case of police or even tense potentially violent situations. Like I think there's a gap between what you should be willing to do for a friend and what a person has the right to expect their friends to do for them. Or how much you should tip versus how much a person should expect you to tip, and so on.
I think we need to make the police force better in all of these cases, because in addition to someone being killed unnecessarily, you've just ruined or at least altered a cop's life by making them a killer. Most people can't shake that reality so easily. It's not fair to them to put them out there with no training, or to put them in situations where the community hates them even to where they are in real danger just trying to do their jobs. Again, a lot that has to stop on both sides, situational awareness or no.
Absolutely. The problem is that even though the aforementioned "still" might represent only a split-second of what happened, I'd venture to say that shooting somebody is a split-second decision...assuming that you're not a sniper or serial killer.
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