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    Butthurt that I said Kyle Anderson is a role player level player .

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    Can't make a counter argument so goes the troll way
    Snore... Is the season coming up soon? I tire of this silliness.

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    Apo-troll will only keep going to lower and lower depths of himself and waste my time. That is all that can be said nicely of this troll. He thinks it bothers me but its only his attention crave that keeps this up even when not a single response from me is significant in any way to his troll-bait. Dude doesn't get it. Don't give a about him.

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    http://www.poundingtherock.com/2016/...e-a-year-makes

    Good article compares Anderson and Simmons. It's really nothing new if you have watched and know the two players but the author does a good job of presenting the assessment based on real data and not eye test or baseless opinion.

    Warning: it's not favorable to J.Simms.

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    http://www.poundingtherock.com/2016/...e-a-year-makes

    Good article compares Anderson and Simmons. It's really nothing new if you have watched and know the two players but the author does a good job of presenting the assessment based on real data and not eye test or baseless opinion.

    Warning: it's not favorable to J.Simms.
    Good article to provide statistical support for what many of us have seen with our eyes. It is a pity that Kyle was saddled with the nickname, "Slo-Mo". He is deliberate, like many successful NBA players. His nickname has prejudiced some fans and has made him an easy target.

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    Good article to provide statistical support for what many of us have seen with our eyes. It is a pity that Kyle was saddled with the nickname, "Slo-Mo". He is deliberate, like many successful NBA players. His nickname has prejudiced some fans and has made him an easy target.
    He's stated he likes it bc it was a nickname given by real fans when he was 8 years old. From interviews I have seen he'd play in youth tournaments and the "broadcaster" with the microphone did not know his name and called him that. Fans loved him in those tournaments. It would surprise here with all the trolling but Kyle was a star growing up. am sure the slowmo nickname evokes reference to success and fun as a youngster, not the negative trolldom around here.
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    After taking a step forward last season, will Anderson be able to take another step forward and become a consistent rotational piece for the Spurs? The answer to this question lies in both his ability to be a frontcourt playmaker off the bench and his fit into different small ball lineups the Spurs will use this season. While lineup stats aren’t perfect and can be noisy at times, they can help shed light on both of these areas for Anderson. The Spurs were lackluster when both Boris Diaw and Anderson were on the court. Lineups that included both players only outscored opponents by 2 points per 100 possessions. Not only that, but the Spurs were outrebounded by 1.4 rebounds and only tallied 1.8 more assists than their opponents per 100 possessions, a lower number than would be expected when two players known for their passing share the court. While it is impossible to know exactly why the 67-win Spurs looked more average when Diaw and Anderson played together, one plausible theory is that they were maybe too similar for their own good. Many pointed out the similarities between Diaw and Anderson when Anderson was drafted, and for good reason. While both are known for their court vision and crafty moves to get teammates or themselves baskets, it’s possible they overlapped too much.


    The Spurs’ numbers when Anderson shared the court with Leonard, however, are on the opposite end of the spectrum. The team outscored opponents by 20.8 points per 100 possessions while playing both players. The Spurs were far more efficient than the other team as well, scoring 7.7 more field goals while attempting 1.5 less than opponents. The Spurs also committed almost 5 less turnovers per 100 possessions than the rival team when playing Anderson and Leonard. Obviously, some of these numbers can be contributed simply to the greatness of Leonard, last season’s runner-up MVP, but the numbers still lend themselves to a good deal of optimism for the success of lineups that use both Anderson and Leonard . While the pair only shared the court for 278 minutes, the numbers show that the Spurs can successfully play Leonard and Anderson together, which may lead to a new role for Anderson this season – a staple on the Spurs’ small-ball lineups.


    The Spurs tested Anderson’s ability at power forward during the 2016 Summer League with much success, sending Anderson home after only several games in Las Vegas. While summer league compe ion is definitely a different level than that of the NBA, this success lends to the belief that the Spurs will experiment with Anderson at power forward more this season. While the Spurs most common small ball lineup will probably be Tony Parker, Manu Ginobili, Danny Green, Leonard, and LaMarcus Aldridge, Ginobili will be facing the most minute’s restriction of his career and will probably take off more games for rest than he has in the past. Due to this, a small ball group of Parker, Green, Leonard, Anderson, and Aldridge will probably be trotted out more than a few times throughout the season as needed. While the Spurs can switch out Mills for Parker and Gasol for Aldridge when necessary, Anderson’s success in these lineups can provide answers to the Spurs’ quest to countering other small ball lineups. Because of this, along with his increased importance in bench lineups, Anderson is poised to take another step forward this season. He will certainly have more responsibility and expectations than ever before. Due to some roster turnover in the frontcourt for the Spurs, Anderson has a chance to become a key piece in the Spurs’ rotation similar to Diaw before him, and this season may be his best chance to prove that.

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    He's going to be a major factor this year, whether you like him or not, tbh..probably the X-factor on the team..

    Pop stated that he's going to see an uptick in minutes and that it's "obvious" that he needs to play more, including saying he will be playing the 1, 3 and 4 positions..

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    He's going to be a major factor this year, whether you like him or not, tbh..probably the X-factor on the team..

    Pop stated that he's going to see an uptick in minutes and that it's "obvious" that he needs to play more, including saying he will be playing the 1, 3 and 4 positions..
    Indeed. Most of us non-haters have been saying this for like a year. If he sucks, the bench is likely not going to be good enough to make up for a sketchy starting five.

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    He's going to be a major factor this year, whether you like him or not, tbh..probably the X-factor on the team..

    Pop stated that he's going to see an uptick in minutes and that it's "obvious" that he needs to play more, including saying he will be playing the 1, 3 and 4 positions..
    A lot of commentators here just can't imagine a player with a skill set to fill each of those positions under shifting cir stances and game situations.

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    He's going to be a major factor this year, whether you like him or not, tbh..probably the X-factor on the team..

    Pop stated that he's going to see an uptick in minutes and that it's "obvious" that he needs to play more, including saying he will be playing the 1, 3 and 4 positions..
    I got you Harlem!
    You have been calling this for weeks already too.

    I saw even the reference to the PG spot, but I didn't want to go overboard about it bc I am already overboard most of the time lol

    I am just really happy Pop was so upfront about Kyle having reached a level where he needs to play. He's really become too good of a player to be out of the regular rotation and will get better too. He's not just gained confidence, but teammates have gotten confidence in him and that is key for chemistry. His playmaking and improved shooting is key, as well as the versatility and number of lineups and positions he can play.

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    Harlem never said Fathead was actually gonna produce in the playoffs you faces. "He needs to play well" can be said about 5 other players. I could even suggest 3 better layers that can be X factors. Tony, Pau, and Manu. Fathead can be garbage and we still win depending on those guys.

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    A lot of commentators here just can't imagine a player with a skill set to fill each of those positions under shifting cir stances and game situations.
    Agreed. Everyone who still hates on him sees that as a bad thing. It's bad if the guy can't play any of them well, but that's not the case for Kyle who can play them well enough and maybe one of them at an elite level.

    This past season was the foundation. He now may play more in the frontcourt in the RS bc that is where the team needs him due to their personnel, but at any point Pop can alter matchups, etc. and Kyle can adapt easily. There is a reason Pop emphasized defense too. It doesn't matter what he could do offensively if he couldn't guard on the other end, but the guy improved on defense b4 he was even aggressive shooting. Now that his shooting has improved and he's earned the coach's trust and his teammates confidence he will blossom. He has become a good overall player and there are not many of those. There are the defensive types like Dedmon, and the offensive types like Mills, but rarely you have a guy in your bench that will give you things on both ends and Kyle can do that.

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    Indeed. Most of us non-haters have been saying this for like a year. If he sucks, the bench is likely not going to be good enough to make up for a sketchy starting five.
    I know we speculated he probably has to rise to be among the top 5 players in the team at least for the team to be good enough. I was conservative about that, bc I distrusted that Pop would trust him. To really rise to the levels he needs to rise he needs Pop to push him like he pushed Kawhi. (and for Kiwi fans, not comparing the players, just the situation) At one point Kawhi deferred a lot and he had to be pushed to climb ladders and Kyle needs to be pushed too, that is all I am saying. Players don't get better unless they are pushed at a young stage and it is precisely the young players that need pushing bc the old guys are who they are.

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    Where the does fathead prove he has any offense?

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    He is a disgrace. Blues my mind how he's on team. Terrible, awful player

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    What does Kyle fan have against Simmons? Smh hating on any guy coming for fathead's spot in the rotation. I predict they'll start hating on Bertans soon

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    Here's Pop for the haters:


    Birthday boy highlights:
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    As Brazil noted earlier. You must be garbage if pop still hasn't figured out where you're good at.

    He is gonna get minutes in the rs. I hope pop cut his minutes in the playoffs though. He's a ing loser their.

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    Here's Pop for the haters:


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    Would like to see Kyle playing some point, with Patty moving to a small 2 for short stints.

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    I can't believe the amount of hate this 23 year old is receiving from Spurs fans.

    He is not going to become as good as Leonard, however he's got unique talents that'll make him very effective in certain situations. I'm am not going to say that he's going to be all around brilliant. I'm saying he's going to be effective in areas where we can hide his weaknesses.

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    I don't really have an opinion on Anderson's overall game..I thought he was pretty solid for his role during the RS, particularly on defense, but was a disaster during the playoffs..

    I don't know how to rate him, overall, though..

    However, with the current construction of the Spurs, he will unquestionably need to become a productive player in the playoffs if the Spurs are going to do some damage..he was viewed as a potential playmaker when the Spurs drafted him, the passing skills are there..this team desperately needs a 3rd playmaker behind Parker and Ginobili, particularly with the bench unit..

    Realistically, Anderson is the only player that can occasionally lighten the load for Ginobili as a playmaker off the bench..

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    Would like to see Kyle playing some point, with Patty moving to a small 2 for short stints.
    Now that Pop has spoken, it's on him to figure this out. When I told this to Nono... it was SAGirl same , yada yada.
    Here it is Pop has spoken: "its on me to figure this out."

    I am guessing we will see Kyle all over the place again (bc that is Pop figuring things out lol). Hopefully he will find some lineups he likes and the X-lineups are for the playoffs.

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    Would like to see Kyle playing some point, with Patty moving to a small 2 for short stints.
    We won't have to wait long now! I expect we will see that lineup with some regularity. I think of it as combo guard play in a way. I could see Patty bring the ball into the front court - especially against pressure - and making the first pass to Kyle who would then really initiate the offense.

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    We won't have to wait long now! I expect we will see that lineup with some regularity. I think of it as combo guard play in a way. I could see Patty bring the ball into the front court - especially against pressure - and making the first pass to Kyle who would then really initiate the offense.
    Patty's problem at point is that he's not big enough to dish out a good entry pass.

    Spurs need to get easy baskets in the paint and that comes from someone having enough athleticism and size to penetrate and disrupt the defense. Manu is too old to do this consistently. Anderson can do it only if he has a size mismatch. I would hate to have to rely on Simmons or Murray. Indeed a problem for the 2nd team.

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    Patty's problem at point is that he's not big enough to dish out a good entry pass.

    Spurs need to get easy baskets in the paint and that comes from someone having enough athleticism and size to penetrate and disrupt the defense. Manu is too old to do this consistently. Anderson can do it only if he has a size mismatch. I would hate to have to rely on Simmons or Murray. Indeed a problem for the 2nd team.
    At least Murray seems to have a nose for getting close to the rim quickly. Hopefully Pop fights his gut and throws Murray into the fire to see what he can do. I can see him disrupting defenses left and right with his penetration and kick outs. The shooting will come if he is as dedicated to work as he says he is...

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