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    According to her, half of Trump's supporters are deplorables and Sander's supporters are living in their parent's basement working as baristas or in other dead-end jobs.

    It's going to be an awful election night... but Hillary still has the better set of policies (though she is a notorious flip-flopper, so even that is not something we can count on).

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    Those comments came out early last week and you are just now being outraged?

    Regardless I would take Hillary for all of her flip flopping and arrogance over Trump and his vague certainty and arrogance.

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    That do entary is but thanks for playing.

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    That do entary is but thanks for playing.
    Do you think Hillary is a good person?

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    Do you think Hillary is a good person?
    What a terrible goal post move

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    Do you think Hillary is a good person?
    Relative question.

    She's a greedy human being but she also gives millions to charity.

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    Do you think Hillary is a good person?
    On balance, yes.

    I have yet to get at anything specific that marks her as somehow evil, despite the 30 year propaganda campaign against her.

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    She's a greedy human being but she also gives millions to charity.
    Yeah, so pro-Shillary idiots can say 'see she's not that bad'.

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    On balance, yes.

    I have yet to get at anything specific that marks her as somehow evil, despite the 30 year propaganda campaign against her.

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    I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt, until I have some actual evidence.

    For Hillary, I hear lots of people mindlessly parroting a narrative, but when I ask for specifics, I don't get anything. That leads me to be rather skeptical of the narrative.

    Do you have anything specific?

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    Come on :fkla

    We gotta compare both candidates and see which one you prefer. And also be realistic on the consequences of voting for other candidates.

    Hillary is the clear cut winner here.

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    I tend to give people the benefit of the doubt, until I have some actual evidence.

    For Hillary, I hear lots of people mindlessly parroting a narrative, but when I ask for specifics, I don't get anything. That leads me to be rather skeptical of the narrative.

    Do you have anything specific?
    Well, her lies and flip flops can be found with a quick search. As far as the corruption, it's a world neither you nor I are a part of. So no, I don't have anything concrete there. It doesn't take a genius to realize why she won't release her speech transcripts though. Or the emails. Or why she's receiving large donations to her 'foundation' from shady governments and individuals. Or that the Rich pardon probably included a large payoff. The list goes on. You don't build an empire through 'public service' by being clean. Look at Bernie, his net worth was estimated at like $250k, that's what being an honest politician gets you.

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    Relative question.

    She's a greedy human being but she also gives millions to charity.
    Really? 90 percent of stuff to foundation goes to pay their bills not char y work

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    Really? 90 percent of stuff to foundation goes to pay their bills not char y work
    Did you read this at Breitbart or Fox? They have 12% overheads, and spend 88% on programs, and are audited.

    https://www.charitywatch.org/ratings...foundation/478

    Do they funnel some of the program cash to favored companies? Possibly, but ultimately they don't spend it on themselves. Unlike your Orange Calf, who settles lawsuits and buys paintings of himself with his charity money, which btw isn't registered as a proper charity to avoid scrutiny.

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    On balance, yes.

    I have yet to get at anything specific that marks her as somehow evil, despite the 30 year propaganda campaign against her.
    Marc Rich (I know it was Bill, but I kind of lump them together).

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    Trump sucks and deserves to lose but I suspect we will all dislike Hillary in 4 years...

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    On balance.

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    Trump sucks and deserves to lose but I suspect we will all dislike Hillary in 4 years...
    outside of Reck, pretty sure there is unanimous consent by all liberals on this board that we already hate her. We just recognize that the world as we know it doesn't end if she's elected.

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    Do you think Hillary is a good person?
    Deflection noticed.

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    That do entary is but thanks for playing.
    Did you actually watch it? I thought the same going into it and couldn't have been more wrong. He actually missed opportunities for an even more powerful doc.

    If you have indeed watched it expand a bit on why it's .

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    Yeah, so pro-Shillary idiots can say 'see she's not that bad'.
    If all you have is that youtube I am not sure what your expect people to see.

    I'm concerned about her Iraq war vote. I am concerned about her husband selling out to the banking industry in 1997 and her taking 10s of millions from them. I'm concerned about her being another Obama in going back on central campaign promises.

    OTOH, I'm concerned about all of those things with Trump plus his SCOTUS nominations, his supply side policy, his track record of abuse towards women, his stark racism and blaming of the poor, his protectionist trade policy, his pandering to the Russians following a financial conflict of interest, his disregard for NATO and military treaties, and his temper with a potential CiC.

    Hillary does not exist in a vacuum or against an ideal. I too would have preferred Sanders yet I deal with reality as it is. I want the political system changed but that doesn't mean I take my vote and go home. The reality is that this race is between Trump and Hillary for all her flaws.

    IF it makes you feel better unless Texas polls within 5 points I'm voting Gary Johnson to bolster the top alternative party. I'm a pragmatist.

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    Trump sucks and deserves to lose but I suspect we will all dislike Hillary in 4 years...
    I don't like her now and I'm going to vote for her. That's the situation we're in.

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    Yeah, so pro-Shillary idiots can say 'see she's not that bad'.
    She's not as bad, imo.

    But determining good person/bad person is mostly subjective.

    ...unless you can prove they conned people with their phony universities and foundations.....which I think at that point we can all agree on bad

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