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Johnson hasn't been ruled out for the season, but there's no telling when he'll be back.
So, it's going to be Foreman and Porter with a little Houston now and then. Is Kirk Johnson out for the Season?
Johnson hasn't been ruled out for the season, but there's no telling when he'll be back.
Dude, this isn't grade school. It's the grading system that a former coach used over the years to grade football players.
He watches the game tape and provides his thoughts in a piece for Inside Texas.
How so?
Some random notes from Inside Texas...
-the injury to RB Chris Warren is a PCL and he's likely done for the season.
-CB Holton Hill was suspended for the OK State game and they're not sure if he'll play for OU despite being listed on the depth chart. He's still in the doghouse.
-Bedford was the one who started out calling defensive plays against OK State, but Strong took over quickly.
-they're hearing that the news of Strong being replaced was coming out during the OK State game, signaling things may be moving faster than previously thought.
I'm of the opinion it's always been Strong's defense and demoting Bedford is meaningless.
He mentioned last week he would personally fix the defense and was even calling plays against OK State.
This is simply the last card Charlie has to play before he's fired.
Any info on why hill is in the doghouse?
FYI the university has announced they will no longer have the weekly defensive press conferences on Wednesdays.
I've seen things ranging from he's not taking football seriously to an off-the-field incident that happened over the summer.
You can bet the Big Cigars have already called Tom Herman's agent and started talking numbers. I'm sure LSU has done the same.
$9 - $10 mill imo
I really wanted Strong to work but from a football perspective he has been awful. I just don't get how you can make your name on defense and then coach a team of talented athletes to give up 50 points per game. All the basic fundamental mishaps that we saw with Manny Diaz have reappeared. I almost feel bad for the defense when they are on the field. The offense has taken a step back as well. If Shane can't throw down field this team is in danger of not cracking 6 wins again.
Hopefully the next coach will not need to come in and clean house. There is enough tallent that I thought this team was 2 years from playing for a playoff spot. Now I have no clue.
Chip Brown reporting Holton Hill, who has been banged up (supposedly) will be back vs OU this week.
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I agree with the writer. The team is still VERY young all around. Its too early to be thinking coaching change. Most had UT at 2-2 at this point anyway before the season.
If you have some time.
.....one of the worst performing coaches in the modern era.
Inspired by @OwlsAndHorns ‘s great threads over the weekend (THREAD #1 / THREAD #2), I decided to take a deeper look at how Charlie stacks up to his peers. So, I researched every game, coached by every coach, from 1973 to present at the following Blue Blood & near Blue Blood programs: Alabama, Auburn, Clemson, Florida, Florida State, Georgia, LSU, Miami, Michigan, Nebraska, Notre Dame, Oklahoma, Ohio State, Penn State, Tennessee, Texas, and USC. In total, 99 different coaches coached at least 1 game, with 84 of them coaching at least 29 (the same number Charlie has coached at Texas).
While it’s easy to compare Charlie’s record vs the tenure of these coaches, it doesn’t give you an apples to apples comparison. So, I specifically looked at how Charlie’s first 29 games compared to the first 29 games of those 81 coaches. The results aren’t surprising, but they are depressing nonetheless. Out of those 81 coaches, Charlie’s winning percentage is tied for the 4th worst.
31.0% - John Blake, Oklahoma
31.0% - Curley Hallman, LSU
41.4% - Charley Pell, Florida
44.8% - Charlie Strong, Texas
44.8% - Rich Rodriguez, Michigan
44.8% - Doug Barfield, Auburn
44.8% - Johnny Majors, Tennessee
48.3% - Derek Dooley, Tennessee
48.3% - Mike Shula, Alabama
48.3% - Butch Jones, Tennessee
Those are the only coaches whose record in their first 29 games was below .500. So, it’s pretty obvious Charlie has had one of the worst starts of any coach at any elite program in 40+ years.
While it doesn’t paint a pretty picture, it also doesn’t paint the entire picture. So next, I looked at how coaches who had a mediocre start finished up. In my book, 7-5 is pretty mediocre. That’s a winning percentage of 58.3%. So, I pulled every coach that had a winning percentage of 58.3% or worse in his first 29 games, and looked at his record for every game AFTER those first 29. In total, 20 coaches basically averaged the equivalent of a 7-5 season or worse in their first 29 games. Of those 20 coaches, only 3 of the 20 coaches actually improved their winning percentage by at least 10 percentage points: Charley Pell at Florida, Johnny Majors at Tennessee, and John Cooper at Ohio State. But, Cooper was the ONLY one that averaged better than 66.7% (the equivalent of an 8-4 regular season) in those games. His winning percentage in all games after the first 29 was 74.4%, which is the equivalent of going 9-3. Said another way, given time, history shows it’s highly unlikely a coach recovers to become elite.
So, what of the coaches that actually did become elite from those 81? 25 of them combined to win 37 National Championships. The lowest winning percentage of an eventual NC winner in his first 29 games was a tie between Bobby Bowden & Lou Holts at 65.5%.
65.5% - Bobby Bowden, Florida State
65.5% - Lou Holtz, Notre Dame
69.0% - Pete Carroll, USC
69.0% - Mack Brown, Texas
69.0% - Howard Schnellenberger, Miami
69.9% - Danny Ford, Clemson
Those were the only coaches that started under .700. And, 13 of the 24 actually started .750+. That tells you that coaches that are going to be elite flash early. They may have a rocky first year, but they’re cranking by year two. In fact, numerous coaches won their first NC early in their tenure.
Won NC in 1st year:
* Larry Coker
* Dennis Erickson
Won NC in 2nd year:
* Bob Stoops
* Barry Switzer
* Gene Chizik
* Urban Meyer (Florida)
* Jim Tressel
Won NC in 3rd year:
* Nick Saban (Alabama)
* Gene Stallings
* Lou Holtz
* Dan Devine
* Urban Meyer (tOSU)
* Barry Switzer
* Pete Carroll
* Lloyd Carr
* Les Miles
* Dennis Erickson
* John Robinson
Won NC in 4th year:
* Pete Carroll
* Urban Meyer (Florida)
* Jimbo Fisher
* Jimmy Johnson
* Danny Ford
* Nick Saban (LSU)
Here’s where the data is staggeringly condemning of Charlie……..of the 37 NCs won, 24 were won in their first 4 years on the job! In fact, of those 25 NC winning coaches, only Mack Brown, Phil Fulmer, Steve Spurrier, Tom Osborne, Bobby Bowden, and Howard Schnellenberger didn’t win their first NC within their first 4 years. Just think about that for a minute. Of the 25 coaches at those 17 programs that won NCs, 19 of them won their first NC within 4 years on the sidelines. And in the case of Bowden & Schnellenberger, they were building programs that no one even knew existed before they took the helm. We can cross fingers & toes, shake Magic 8 Balls, and say all the prayers we want……….there has never been a coach in the modern era at any quality program that has started as poorly (or even as close to as poorly as Charlie), and gone on to greatness. John Cooper is the only one that came close.
So then, if history shows us Charlie isn’t going to become an elite coach, what does history suggest about how to proceed. This is where it’s interesting. If you’d asked me whether it was better to fire a coach mid-season or at the end of a season, I’d have said “end of a season”, b/c I would think an interim coach would fare worse. But, the data says otherwise. Check this out. These are the coaches from those 17 programs that were fired mid-season, and how their replacements fared.
1984 Florida – Galen Hall (8-0) took over for Charley Pell (1-1-1).
1992 Tennessee – Phil Fulmer (4-0) took over for Johnny Majors (5-3). Won the Hall of Fame Bowl.
1998 Auburn – Bill Oliver (2-3) took over for Terry Bowden (1-5).
2008 Clemson – Dabo Swiney (4-3) took over for Terry Bowden (3-3). Lost the Gator Bowl.
2013 USC – Ed Orgeron (6-2) took over for Lane Kiffin (3-2). Quit before the bowl game b/c he was passed over for the HC job.
2015 Miami – Larry Scott (4-2) took over for Al Golden (4-3). Lost the Sun Bowl.
2015 USC – Clay Helton (5-4) took over for Steve Sarkisian (3-2). Lost the Holiday Bowl.
In every single instance, the interim coach performed as well or better than the fired coach. And what’s really interesting is 4 of those 7 coaches performed well enough to get offered the permanent job, with 3 of them going on to become pretty darn good coaches (Dabo, Hall & Fulmer). It seems assigning an interim coach mid-season is a great way to get an on-field interview with an up & coming assistant, while trying new ideas that may improve the season beyond what the lame duck coach would have been able to do.
On a side note, the only coaches in the group to have at least 3 Top 5 finishes and not win a NC are Fred Akers & Mark Richt. I found that interesting. Every other coach that hit that mark won a NC. Also, the only coaches who coached at least 5 seasons, won over 75% of their games, and didn’t win a NC are Frank Solich (Nebraska) & Earle Bruce (tOSU). 23 coaches had a +.750 winning percentage. 21 of them won NCs. Only 6 NC winning coaches started with a winning percentage under 70% in their first 29 games, and all of them were over 65%. So, there is a 0.01% chance Charlie becomes the first coach to lose half of his games the first 3 years, then goes on to win a NC.
Its how you win and lose.
Have you watched ANY games? This team is absolutely horrific on the simplest tasks. Have you seen the inability to understand the clock? Have you seen the FG, PAT consistently late getting out on the field and not knowing where to be? Have you seen members of the defense with hands up in the air, heads looking back and forth for a defensive call while the other team is in a hurry up offense? Do I need to continue?
The Big Lead article would make sense if Charlie was not losing inexplicably. These losses are the result of scheme, technique, and flat out incompetence from a coaching perspective. Yes, the team is young. They then should show improvement. This team does not. Yes the quarterback is a freshman. He is not the issue. The program has recruited exceptionally well considering the seasons it has had. I don't know why that was brought up. Possibly to suck SEC . Some writers are contractionally obligated. And boosters run every college program as if they own the damn program. I think that Texas's boosters have been remarkably patient and that patience has not been rewarded. Record ass lickings have a way of making people desperate. I always thought Charlie deserved a third year, but goddamn he's pissing it away.
Ugh, okay that's bad.
Yea i've seen all of that. I'm just wondering how and why it got to this point. His louisville teams never had this problem and they managed to still be relatively good after he left.
Damn... I dont see how he rights this ship. The ND game seems so long ago.
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