Church of Trump

[boutons_deux]

Texas Newspaper Destroys The Myth That Hillary Clinton Is The Lesser Of Two Evils

A Texas newspaper hasn't just endorsed Hillary Clinton. The Corpus Christi Caller-Times destroyed the media created myth that Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump are equals, but that Clinton is the lesser of two evils.

In their endorsement the editorial board of the Caller-Times wrote:

She is not, as has been sold, a mere lesser of two evils. Her experience and intellect would make her a standout in any group of candidates. Like President Obama said and didn’t need to be fact-checked, she’s more qualified than him or her husband.….

Being the only serious alternative is both Clinton’s fortune and misfortune. It increases the likelihood of victory, but also of presiding over a nation with large groups of dissidents. While voting against her can be a statement of differing principle, voting for Trump would not rise to that level. It’s not a vote for Republicanism. The Republican Party’s principles and standards are beyond Trump’s reach.….

We perceive in Clinton the capability to bridge the divide — to define rather than exploit our problems and pursue intelligent solutions.

Her “basket of deplorables” comment made the task more difficult but it was a rare lapse by an otherwise level-headed servant leader with a history of self-correcting resilience.

The former senator’s Republican colleagues remember her fondly as a middle-ground-seeking master of the art of deal-making.

If there is to be a return to bipartisanship, she is the one to lead it.

It is rare to see an endorsement in this presidential election that focuses on why one candidate should be president instead of why her opponent is unfit to hold the office.Hillary Clinton is not the lesser of two evils. She has never been. When one examines the facts, there is no contest between Clinton and Trump. Donald Trump has a real rap sheet that should disqualify him from being president.

Hillary Clinton’s “crimes” are conspiracy theories that have been cooked up by the conservative media’s anti-Clinton conspiracy cottage industry that has spent decades as a robust source of profit for conservative authors and media.

The idea that Hillary Clinton is the lesser of two evils is a lazy media narrative that was created by corporate mainstream talking heads only interested in false equivalence to keep ratings and interest up during an election.

It would take too much effort for the media to discuss the fact that Clinton’s approval ratings are a byproduct of decades of Republican attacks on her last name combined with the extreme polarization of the electorate.

http://www.politicususa.com/2016/10/...iticus+USA+%29

[pgardn]

Since when does an IRS debtor not pay interest and penalties on taxes owed?

And you posted part of it screwball.

[CosmicCowboy]

When you deal with large sums of money and a payback amount is already determined over a long term.

Who are you talking about? This has nothing to do with the published information about Trumps NOL carry forward.

[pgardn]

Who are you talking about? This has nothing to do with the published information about Trumps NOL carry forward.

Ok.

So help me with this.

http://www.npr.org/2016/10/02/496303...s-for-18-years


Congress, which writes the tax laws, affirmatively subsidizes commercial real estate through the mechanism of the tax code."

And I will look for the podcast for you on how this translates into a loan or even a subsidy. There's lots more. You can help decipher it.

[boutons_deux]

And you posted part of it screwball.

Since when does an IRS debtor not pay interest and penalties on taxes owed? G F Y

[CosmicCowboy]

Ok.

So help me with this.

http://www.npr.org/2016/10/02/496303...s-for-18-years


Congress, which writes the tax laws, affirmatively subsidizes commercial real estate through the mechanism of the tax code."

And I will look for the podcast for you on how this translates into a loan or even a subsidy. There's lots more. You can help decipher it.

no thanks, goofball.

Trumps has enough to complain about without you completely inventing stuff.

Owed the IRS without penalty and bought TBills with the money...

[rmt]

The IRS would love to be an unerring hawk like you say. In practice, they are systematically underfunded, and the result is that they have a hefty "tax gap" - the difference between how much tax should be paid vs how much is actually paid. This gap has been consistently around $450 Billion per year. They don't have the bandwidth to go after everyone, or to overcome the array of lawyers that the big fish are able to deploy.

I did not mean that they are gonna catch everyone who's cheating - obviously, they don't have the manpower for that. I meant that they have policies/procedures to cover every scenario.

Man, I must not be expressing myself well today - so many things I have to go back and explain.

[pgardn]

And T-Bills was a safe example which he probably does not use.

Sure thing CC.

The emoticons are always revealing with you.

[DMX7]

I think there was a time there when some banks were borrowing from the federal reserve at rates lower than t-bills and so they were investing in those.

[CosmicCowboy]

Sure thing CC.

The emoticons are always revealing with you.

Where does it say he owed taxes that he didn't pay?

Like I said, he has done and said enough stupid stuff on his own you don't need to make stuff up.

[boutons_deux]

I think there was a time there when some banks were borrowing from the federal reserve at rates lower than t-bills and so they were investing in those.

sure, that was a key tool of the Fed to make the bankrupt banks solid again. Fed lent them $Ts at almost no interest, which the banks then lent out, like to students at 6.8%, giving the banks a huge "spread" to pump up their capital reserves.

[pgardn]

Finally found part of it. But there was another piece from another reporter that went more into the aspect of the ways Trump borrows. And basically used this method to make money while claiming loses. Still looking but here is the incomplete view.

http://tpr.org/post/reporter-says-th...taxes#stream/0

[Reck]

Finally found part of it. But there was another piece from another reporter that went more into the aspect of the ways Trump borrows. And basically used this method to make money while claiming loses. Still looking but here is the incomplete view.

http://tpr.org/post/reporter-says-th...taxes#stream/0

Yeah I saw part of an interview on CNN that talked about how Trump could have saved himself millions of dollars by using a ty tax law.

Basically they said that say he wants to build a 100 million dollar building...he can put 1 million of his own money while the bank puts 99 millions. If teh project fails, the bank loses its 99 million dollars. Trump loses the 1 million but saves himself 99 mils.

The taxes though would reflect that he loss the whole sum amount when in fact, he only lost 1 million.

[Warlord23]

Did y'all read about Trump's jewelry box scam to avoid sales tax? Apparently back in the day he'd walk into a jewelry store in NY and buy whatever his main squeeze wanted. Then he'd ask the store to ship an empty jewelry box to a different state so that he could get out of paying sales tax in NY

http://www.forbes.com/sites/ryanelli.../#18c66f7a6aa7

This guy ...

[rmt]

Yeah I saw part of an interview on CNN that talked about how Trump could have saved himself millions of dollars by using a ty tax law.

Basically they said that say he wants to build a 100 million dollar building...he can put 1 million of his own money while the bank puts 99 millions. If teh project fails, the bank loses its 99 million dollars. Trump loses the 1 million but saves himself 99 mils.

The taxes though would reflect that he loss the whole sum amount when in fact, he only lost 1 million.

And you really think any bank would do that - put up 99% and allow borrower to claim the whole amount if it goes under - I don't think so - they aren't stupid.

[Winehole23]

Winehole was attacking ME.

actually, I was addressing rmt -- your post got in between somehow.

sorry, it's not all about you.

[DMX7]

Did y'all read about Trump's jewelry box scam to avoid sales tax? Apparently back in the day he'd walk into a jewelry store in NY and buy whatever his main squeeze wanted. Then he'd ask the store to ship an empty jewelry box to a different state so that he could get out of paying sales tax in NY

http://www.forbes.com/sites/ryanelli.../#18c66f7a6aa7

This guy ...

He didn't even pay his fair share of sales taxes. Jesus... that is damning and more ammo for Hillary if it's true.

[Winehole23]

skirting disclosure requirements to exceed contribution limits and buy influence, like a blue collar billionaire does:

Donald Trump contributed 10 times as much money as was allowed by law to the 2006 gubernatorial campaign of Florida’s then-Attorney General Charlie Crist, according to a Huffington Post review of state campaign finance records.
The donations that exceeded the limit were all made on the same day through companies Trump owns. Trump did not disclose the connection, and regulators did not identify the gifts as coming from Trump. All told, Trump made nine contributions of $500 to Crist’s campaign on Aug. 25, 2005, for a total of $4,500. At the time, the maximum allowable donation in Florida from an individual or corporation was $500, a sum that Trump had already given Crist’s campaign as a personal donation in June of that year.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...9bb3?section=&

[pgardn]

Yeah I saw part of an interview on CNN that talked about how Trump could have saved himself millions of dollars by using a ty tax law.

Basically they said that say he wants to build a 100 million dollar building...he can put 1 million of his own money while the bank puts 99 millions. If teh project fails, the bank loses its 99 million dollars. Trump loses the 1 million but saves himself 99 mils.

The taxes though would reflect that he loss the whole sum amount when in fact, he only lost 1 million.

There is more.

I heard a bunch of it this morning but what I have found in the other posts so far is not the whole bag o tricks. Frankly it's getting even more convoluted as I find more articles. There of course is a lot of conjecture in some as he has tried to be secretive in his release of returns. The stuff I heard was based mostly off the release to the NY times but did further analysis using older returns. It was NPR in a large city and I have only found 2 of the 3 examinations.

[pgardn]

Finally found part of it. But there was another piece from another reporter that went more into the aspect of the ways Trump borrows. And basically used this method to make money while claiming loses. Still looking but here is the incomplete view.

http://tpr.org/post/reporter-says-th...taxes#stream/0

Did y'all read about Trump's jewelry box scam to avoid sales tax? Apparently back in the day he'd walk into a jewelry store in NY and buy whatever his main squeeze wanted. Then he'd ask the store to ship an empty jewelry box to a different state so that he could get out of paying sales tax in NY

http://www.forbes.com/sites/ryanelli.../#18c66f7a6aa7

This guy ...

skirting disclosure requirements to exceed contribution limits and buy influence, like a blue collar billionaire does:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/...9bb3?section=&

Its a freaking thunderstorm. This would drown any other candidate. There is so much breaking loose. The Donald will somehow keep the popular vote fairly close through all this.

[Winehole23]

the GOP nominated a man who is more corrupt, more disliked and a worse campaigner than HRC.

what did they think would happen?

[baseline bum]

Its a freaking thunderstorm. This would drown any other candidate. There is so much breaking loose. The Donald will somehow keep the popular vote fairly close through all this.

It's because he's running against Clinton. If Biden was the Democrats' nominee this race would have been over months ago.

[HI-FI]

Mein neger Trey Smith signed off on Trump; I'm all aboard the Trump train. Last time I voted was for Ralph Nader Trump is the new age King Cyrus

that's cool man. I don't know what to make of Trump sometimes. Hillary is a nonstarter for me.

Ralph Nader was the first person I voted for and so far the only time I felt good about my vote. He was saying recently that they need a None of the Above option for the presidential votes, so people could vote and still voice their displeasure with the options, but that makes too much sense.

[baseline bum]

that's cool man. I don't know what to make of Trump sometimes. Hillary is a nonstarter for me.

Ralph Nader was the first person I voted for and so far the only time I felt good about my vote. He was saying recently that they need a None of the Above option for the presidential votes, so people could vote and still voice their displeasure with the options, but that makes too much sense.

Can't you just write in Cunty Mc Balls or something?

[Chris]

that's cool man. I don't know what to make of Trump sometimes. Hillary is a nonstarter for me.

Ralph Nader was the first person I voted for and so far the only time I felt good about my vote. He was saying recently that they need a None of the Above option for the presidential votes, so people could vote and still voice their displeasure with the options, but that makes too much sense.

We know exactly what we're going to get with Hillary. More lies and more wars. Nader was a victim of the corrupt Media similar to a Ron Paul or a Bernie Sanders.