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    So more taxes for med schools? Uh, okay.
    Instead of raising taxes, how about slashing education funding on dead end majors? Like ing art history or English or communications and Jewish Studies,


    Should be: STEM, business or self pay. With other fields acting as core curricula and electives.

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    The police are apart of the issues in affecting the city. What are more police going to do to lower the crime rate when the residents that are law abiding are afraid of them?

    Chicago has paid out $249,700,000 million dollars from 2010-2014 to victims of police violence.
    http://www.wsj.com/articles/cost-of-...ies-1437013834



    Trump neglects to mention that yet brings up the crime in Chicago. His plan is to use a wildly unpopular and incredibly ineffective Stop and Frisk is beyond moronic. He has no idea what he is doing, he just pretends to know what he's talking about without getting too specific.

    I don't believe for one second that Trump or the GOP actually care about crime in the inner cities.
    Do you really believe that the problem that Chicago has is police violence and that the financial problems Chicago is having is the money being paid out to police victims? More police is going to help with the criminals - not the law-abiding citizens. If police are now not stopping and checking su ious behavior but instead are not getting out of their cars, does that not encourage criminals to be more bold? (resulting in more crime). What is your solution?

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    Instead of raising taxes, how about slashing education funding on dead end majors? Like ing art history or English or communications and Jewish Studies,


    Should be: STEM, business or self pay. With other fields acting as core curricula and electives.
    For all you who so admire the European model (not necessarily you, UNT), part of subsidized/lower tuition costs is limiting who can go into certain fields (based on test scores). Being told what you can (or cannot) major in isn't gonna go down well in the US.

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    Doctors aren't overpaid. They save and maintain lives. That is priceless.

    Athletes, celebrities and entertainers are over paid. They are the epitome of American idolization, excess and secularism while adding nothing mandatory to the world.
    Police officers save lives. So do firemen. Physical trainers and nutritionists maintain lives.
    Is that a criteria for income?

    Rarity of talent and value of job are the requirements. Doctors have done a fabulous job of making their brand extremely valuable. It, intrinsically, should not be. Most of what doctors do can be done by lay people. The power the vast majority of doctors have is in there Rx pad. I can't remember the last time I went to a doctor not knowing what I had, and what I needs, either for myself, or another family member.

    They get some sweet deals, to. My kids godfather (obviously a great friend of mine) is a perinatologist. Specialized specialist. Very good at his job. Was over at his house a couple of weekends back. He was 2nd on call. Meaning there are residents and docs at the hospital as first line. If they need extra help, 1st on call gets a shout. If they need MORE help, 2nd on call. He is 2nd on call one weekend a month. Been on the job for 7 years, NEVER had a call while in that position (in fact is allowed to have alcohol while 2nd on call). However, gets paid $50/hr every hour of the weekend for being in that position.

    He also works at a hospital system associated with a university, so was hired as a full professor with tenure (so all the perks and income of a professor, even though he has never taught a class) - a six figure salary in its own right, of course those are just perks ON TOP of his doctor's salary of over $500K. The hospital picks up all of his malpractice and other costs of doing business. He gets paychecks like a normal employee. He just gets big ones. He graduated undergrad with my wife. They took many of the same classes. She actually got better grades than him, and scored slightly higher on both the GRE and the MCAT. She chose graduate school (Ph.D. in Biochemistry from TAMU); he went to Baylor Medical. Talent levels and intelligence roughly equivalent. They spent the same time in graduate school. He then interned, she did a post-doc. She's been very successful; published in Nature, Biochemistry and other significant journals. He obviously has done very well. Her income is less than a quarter of his. I'm not bitter, we're doing just fine, and we are still great friends, and, seriously laugh about this; but I use it as an example of doctors making more than, I think, an honest market would have them making.

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    Do you really believe that the problem that Chicago has is police violence and that the financial problems Chicago is having is the money being paid out to police victims? More police is going to help with the criminals - not the law-abiding citizens. If police are now not stopping and checking su ious behavior but instead are not getting out of their cars, does that not encourage criminals to be more bold? (resulting in more crime). What is your solution?
    Stop and frisk sure as isn't the answer. Minorities (specifically blacks and Hispanics) already distrust the police; being stopped and treated like a criminal, even when you're a law abiding citizen, while randomly walking down the street does nothing to improve community-police relations.

    Tossing more police isn't likely to improve the situation when the police has a long history of brutality among minorities, and rank second in the nation in payouts to victims or police brutality.

    I don't think police are all of the problem but its naive to think that they aren't partly to blame for how things have turned out.

    How can black communities embrace policing when the police department and Mayor covered up a video of a teenage being shot 16 times by a cop as he walked away. That was followed by a cover up; which included paying millions to the family to keep them quiet, deleting video evidence from a surveillance camera, and other officers including his boss covering up for a cop who committed murder.


    The solution isn't simple but improving community-police relations is certainly a better option than Stop and Frisk, which was found to be uncons utional because it racially profiled minorities and was ineffective. Also better police training would go a long way, $60 million dollars a year in payouts for bad policing over a 4 year stretch is astounding.

    The Ferguson effect, as you alluded to has been disproved, and that too came from decades of resentment following decades of mistreatment from the police. The Justice department conducted year long reviews of Ferguson (Mike Brown), Baltimore (Freddy Grey), & Chicago (LaQuan McDonald), and found overwhelming police misconduct and mistreatment towards minorities by the police in those cities.

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    Stop and frisk sure as isn't the answer. Minorities (specifically blacks and Hispanics) already distrust the police; being stopped and treated like a criminal, even when you're a law abiding citizen, while randomly walking down the street does nothing to improve community-police relations.

    Tossing more police isn't likely to improve the situation when the police has a long history of brutality among minorities, and rank second in the nation in payouts to victims or police brutality.

    I don't think police are all of the problem but its naive to think that they aren't partly to blame for how things have turned out.

    How can black communities embrace policing when the police department and Mayor covered up a video of a teenage being shot 16 times by a cop as he walked away. That was followed by a cover up; which included paying millions to the family to keep them quiet, deleting video evidence from a surveillance camera, and other officers including his boss covering up for a cop who committed murder.


    The solution isn't simple but improving community-police relations is certainly a better option than Stop and Frisk, which was found to be uncons utional because it racially profiled minorities and was ineffective. Also better police training would go a long way, $60 million dollars a year in payouts for bad policing over a 4 year stretch is astounding.

    The Ferguson effect, as you alluded to has been disproved, and that too came from decades of resentment following decades of mistreatment from the police. The Justice department conducted year long reviews of Ferguson (Mike Brown), Baltimore (Freddy Grey), & Chicago (LaQuan McDonald), and found overwhelming police misconduct and mistreatment towards minorities by the police in those cities.
    This is my attempt at a solution:

    Get rid of Democratic leadership - if they haven't worked and improved the situation, try something else (you know the definition of insanity) - stop with the overspending, sanctuary cities, strong support of teachers' unions. Encourage school choice, online/virtual school, spend money on computers for kids so that the world will open up to them (or at least they'll play video games and stay off the streets). Invite faith-based organizations/churches/Big Brother programs to mentor the youth and assure their safety when they come into the community. Get the army, navy, marine recruiters in the community and give the young men an alternative to joining gangs. Try to invite successful black celebrities, athletes, musicians to give motivational speeches. Stress birth control and breaking the cycle of poverty by not having kids and getting an education.

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    This is my attempt at a solution:

    Get rid of Democratic leadership - if they haven't worked and improved the situation, try something else (you know the definition of insanity) - stop with the overspending, sanctuary cities, strong support of teachers' unions. Encourage school choice, online/virtual school, spend money on computers for kids so that the world will open up to them (or at least they'll play video games and stay off the streets). Invite faith-based organizations/churches/Big Brother programs to mentor the youth and assure their safety when they come into the community. Get the army, navy, marine recruiters in the community and give the young men an alternative to joining gangs. Try to invite successful black celebrities, athletes, musicians to give motivational speeches. Stress birth control and breaking the cycle of poverty by not having kids and getting an education.


    get rid of my political opponents
    gubmint bad!
    don't allow cities to direct their own police departments
    down with teacher unions but cop unions are great!
    I don't want my kids going outside so they can be fat.
    screw separation of church and state. State sponsored proselytization is what I want!
    send my kids off to die in war.
    celebrities are the solution!

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    Salute dabom

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    get rid of my political opponents
    gubmint bad!
    don't allow cities to direct their own police departments
    down with teacher unions but cop unions are great!
    I don't want my kids going outside so they can be fat.
    screw separation of church and state. State sponsored proselytization is what I want!
    send my kids off to die in war.
    celebrities are the solution!
    Well, let's hear your solution.

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    What a bunch of crybaby whiners, thinking they are en led to "other people's money."

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    Well, let's hear your solution.
    Abolish all public employee unions outside of contract negotiation and strike/lockout periods.
    Decriminalize and medicalize all drugs. End the war on drugs.
    Take that manpower and enforce violent/sex crime so it's safe for kids to go outside.
    Eliminate all private prisons.
    Repeal all LEOBOR laws.
    Outlaw cops and DAs ability to prosecute themselves from the same jurisdiction. No conflict of interest allowed.
    Enforce separation of church and state.
    Make education an enumerated right and demand equal funding.
    Public health care option.
    Remove funding block on gun violence research
    Repeal citizens united. Amend the 14th amendment declaring coporate legal en ies are not "people" or "persons"
    Outlaw single member districts; ins ute proportional representation.
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    Hail my Oligarchical and Corporate Overlords! I am a good minion!

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    This is my attempt at a solution:

    Get rid of Democratic leadership - if they haven't worked and improved the situation, try something else (you know the definition of insanity) - stop with the overspending, sanctuary cities, strong support of teachers' unions. Encourage school choice, online/virtual school, spend money on computers for kids so that the world will open up to them (or at least they'll play video games and stay off the streets). Invite faith-based organizations/churches/Big Brother programs to mentor the youth and assure their safety when they come into the community. Get the army, navy, marine recruiters in the community and give the young men an alternative to joining gangs. Try to invite successful black celebrities, athletes, musicians to give motivational speeches. Stress birth control and breaking the cycle of poverty by not having kids and getting an education.
    Its not like the GOP have shown an interest in helping the problems plaguing the inner cites, outside of Trump trying to exploit whats going on in Chicago, to " reach out to black voters". I don't suspect black voters would even consider voting for the GOP for a laundry list of reasons, most of which are valid.

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    You know how Trump would fix intercity violence? Grab them by the pussy.

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    You know how Trump would fix intercity violence? Grab them by the pussy.
    best version of stop and frisk imo

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    best version of stop and frisk imo
    find a brown chick walking on the sidewalk? Grab em in the pussy

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    This is my attempt at a solution:

    Get rid of Democratic leadership - if they haven't worked and improved the situation, try something else (you know the definition of insanity) - stop with the overspending, sanctuary cities, strong support of teachers' unions. Encourage school choice, online/virtual school, spend money on computers for kids so that the world will open up to them (or at least they'll play video games and stay off the streets). Invite faith-based organizations/churches/Big Brother programs to mentor the youth and assure their safety when they come into the community. Get the army, navy, marine recruiters in the community and give the young men an alternative to joining gangs. Try to invite successful black celebrities, athletes, musicians to give motivational speeches. Stress birth control and breaking the cycle of poverty by not having kids and getting an education.
    Well, here's a nice start by Sprint - although I prefer laptops - not cel phones.

    http://www.wsj.com/articles/sprint-t...nts-1476220317

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