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    can not pardon someone not convicted
    he does not like her anyhow he just hates trump
    Since you brought it up elsewhere, Marc Rich was pardoned, but hadn't been convicted of anything. The questions of the pardon in that instance were ethical -- i.e., should Clinton have done it? They were not legal -- i.e., did Clinton have the power to do it?

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    Nothing in the Cons ution appears to require that the person benefitting from a pardon have already been convicted of a crime. The limit is that a pardon cannot be granted for something that hasn't yet occurred, which would basically allow a waiver of the law and not a post-hoc grant of relief from it.

    Frankly, until last night's threats, I don't think there was any need to pardon Hillary Clinton. But if Trump wins, I'd expect President Obama to offer a very broadly worded pardon, if only to avoid the stunningly bad precedent that fulfilling Trump's threats would create.
    As in "I pardon Hillary Clinton of anything she might be charged with regarding emails, Clinton Foundation, national security, speeches?" lol. Trump probably only did it to stop the party bleeding - all the physical evidence has already been destroyed.

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    As in "I pardon Hillary Clinton of anything she might be charged with regarding emails, Clinton Foundation, national security, speeches?" lol. Trump probably only did it to stop the party bleeding - all the physical evidence has already been destroyed.
    True. Of course, joking about prosecuting and jailing political opponents has a very long and storied history in our democracy.

    See, there it is again -- Trump's an OUTSIDER!!

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    Can we all agree that politicians are by and large walking piles of bags?

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    The best part of the debate in my opinion was when Trump accused Hillary of having "tremendous hate in her heart".

    And the way he said it, lol. It was so damn childish.

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    threatening to imprison your political opponents...

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    Hillary Clinton goes to a gifted-student primary school in New York to talk about the world. After her talk she offers question time.
    One little boy puts up his hand. Hillary asks him what his name is. "Kenneth," he says
    And what is your question, Kenneth?" she asks.
    I have three questions," he says.
    1st -- whatever happened in Benghazi?"
    2nd -- why would you run for president if you are not capable of handling two e-mail accounts?
    And, 3rd -- whatever happened to the missing six-billion-dollars while you were Secretary of State?
    Just then the bell rings for recess. Hillary informs the kiddies that they will continue after recess.
    When they resume Hillary says, "Okay, where were we? Oh, that's right, question time. Who has a question?
    A different boy -- little Johnny -- puts his hand up.
    Hillary points to him and asks him what his name is. "Johnny," he says.
    And what is your question, Johnny?" she asks.
    I have five questions," he says.
    1st -- whatever happened in Benghazi?
    2nd -- why would you run for president if you are not capable of handling two e-mail accounts?
    3rd -- whatever happened to the missing six-billion dollars while you were Secretary of State?
    4th -- why did the recess bell go off 20 minutes early?"
    And 5th -- where's Kenneth?"

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    Its been painfully obvious that they've been shilling for her since the primaries. Media, DNC, gubamint behind her and the corrupt still struggled to get through Bernie and is struggling with the Don. lol Reck
    I'm sorry, what? The poll they did wasn't with these group. It was scientific. Besides, if you want to whine about CNN, they're not the only one. A youGov poll which is also scientifically shows her winning it. Furthermore...a new national poll came out today that has her up 11 points over Trump. So define struggling..

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    Morning Joe hosts gush over Trump's 'epic' debate performance
    http://theweek.com/speedreads/654248...te-performance

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    Clinton pulled back on a kill shot for a reason: Keep Trump on the ticket

    https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/c...145130698.html

    LOL WHATEVER

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    Clinton pulled back on a kill shot for a reason: Keep Trump on the ticket

    https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/c...145130698.html

    LOL WHATEVER
    that

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    Trump Told Russia To Blame for Hacks Long Before Debate

    During Sunday's debate, Donald Trump once again said he doesn't know whether Russia is trying to hack the U.S. election, despite Friday's statement by the U.S. intelligence community pointing the finger at Putin -- and despite the fact that Trump was personally briefed on Russia's role in the hacks by U.S. officials.

    A senior U.S. intelligence official assured NBC News that cybersecurity and the Russian government's attempts to interfere in the 2016 election have been briefed to, and discussed extensively with, both parties' candidates, surrogates and leadership, since mid-August.

    "To profess not to know at this point is willful misrepresentation," said the official. AKA, BIG FIUCKING LIE!

    "The intelligence community has walked a very thin line in not taking sides, but both candidates have all the information they need to be crystal clear."

    http://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/trump-was-told-russia-was-blame-hacks-long-debate-n663686



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    Hillary Clinton goes to a gifted-student primary school in New York to talk about the world. After her talk she offers question time.
    One little boy puts up his hand. Hillary asks him what his name is. "Kenneth," he says
    And what is your question, Kenneth?" she asks.
    I have three questions," he says.
    1st -- whatever happened in Benghazi?"
    2nd -- why would you run for president if you are not capable of handling two e-mail accounts?
    And, 3rd -- whatever happened to the missing six-billion-dollars while you were Secretary of State?
    Just then the bell rings for recess. Hillary informs the kiddies that they will continue after recess.
    When they resume Hillary says, "Okay, where were we? Oh, that's right, question time. Who has a question?
    A different boy -- little Johnny -- puts his hand up.
    Hillary points to him and asks him what his name is. "Johnny," he says.
    And what is your question, Johnny?" she asks.
    I have five questions," he says.
    1st -- whatever happened in Benghazi?
    2nd -- why would you run for president if you are not capable of handling two e-mail accounts?
    3rd -- whatever happened to the missing six-billion dollars while you were Secretary of State?
    4th -- why did the recess bell go off 20 minutes early?"
    And 5th -- where's Kenneth?"
    Benghazi!

    emails!

    $6B! ( what happened to, what do have to show for the $2T+ dubya/ ehead WASTED in Iraq and Afghanistan? )

    CosmicParasite "inhales" Repug smoke machine and swears there's FIRE!

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    Can we all agree that politicians are by and large walking piles of bags?
    duh but trump is not one!

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    duh but trump is not one!
    How many posters of Trump do you have on your bedroom wall?

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    I have 3 David Robinson posters Thank you very much!

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    duh but trump is not one!
    He just said he was last night.

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    can not be one until he is PRESIDENT!
    but he is not a typical person in office he will be better!

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    at the debate...
    question: what are you doing to do to make sure the rich pay their fair share in taxes
    trump: i'm going to lower taxes to 15%

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    Someone make thread for tonight's debate.

    Anyways, Mark Cuban destroying Giuliani on CNN right now

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