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Bertans can play!!!!
And what they could use is J.Simms really.
Bertans can play!!!!
I'm very supportive of selling as high as possible on Simmons, just don't think MCW is way to go.
MCW will be great for us to have, is the player we need at pg to give us the ability to take green out of the lineup and put mills in, he also not a cancer(lol people going automatic for the mainstream assumption, he is a gamer and could be very productive in right situation...
how is he not a cancer.. been traded everywhere at this point.
Most ST posters think he has real potential and is likely to be a rotational player this season. Why do you say,"no"? (Don't know why cutewizard interjected her Bertans comment in this thread, but, perhaps you could reply to me in the Bertans thread?)
I don't know what Raven meant, but ppl overreact on ST a lot. Bertans could always shoot and we knew that. The question is if he can do other things well and also, can the other bench bigs get their act together.
I think Bertans shooting can help the bench spacing issues, but I don't know if Bertans will hold up defensively to everything else he would need to do to be in the rotation. I don't forget he fouled 5 times in the Suns game, was 1-5 shooting the 3 and a traffic cone on defense, chase down blocks notwithstanding, bc I did watch that game... but hey ppl dampen my own enthusiasm all the time, so I let guys be.
The Kings supposedly turned down an offer by the Bucks to swap MCW for Ben McLemore.
McLemore was one of the worst players in the league last season but the Bucks are desperate for an athletic shooting guard who can knockdown an open 3 after Middleton got injured. They are starting Vaughn who is a total scrub....enter Jonathan Simmons:
The Bucks have a trade exception so matching salaries won't be an issue: http://www.espn.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=h4gytqu (Threw in JLC b/c Kidd likes lanky forwards who can't shoot:)
Even if you could argue that they should, I doubt the Bucks would equate Simmons with McLemore. Rightly or wrongly, I think the latter has mostly been given the benefit of the doubt because he's been in such a toxic situation. He's also 3 and 1/2 years younger and despite the pedestrian career %, has a reputation as a legit 3-point shooter and a potential knockdown one.
Also, a Carter-Williams for Simmons trade would leave them thin at point guard on both sides of the ball, but especially defensively.
All these other trades are even more unrealistic . . .
- Spurs wouldn't trade Anderson for Holmes
- Wizards wouldn't trade Oubre Jr. for Anderson
- 76ers wouldn't trade Noel for Anderson, Dedmon, 1st
- 76ers wouldn't trade Grant or Holmes for Simmons
I know Brand is fully guaranteed and they want him around for his experience and leadership, but if Holmes maintains his strong play, it's difficult to envision them waiving him. Even if minor, you don't throw a potential asset in the garbage, especially to keep a corpse.
One issue you are ignoring is that they just need a temporary fill-in until Middleton returns, McLemore has a hefty qualifying offer which I don't think the Bucks would be willing to offer ala MCW. On the other hand, they can retain Simmons for cheap & use him as a backup.
As far as backup PGs, they drafted Brogdon & signed Delly to address that issue. They also have Terry as an emergency "break the glass" backup.
I still go back and forth on J.Simms. He is definitely mistake prone even at this stage with his experience, but he is still capable of a play or two that show talent and the Spurs need the depth with Manu at 39. Ultimately I still come up about even on J.Simms.
If Manu is unavailable for whatever reason, Spurs need him. I think eventually Dijon will overtake him, but for now he's needed.
If PATFO are going to move/waive Simmons then it's going to be for a slasher & not a shooter.
If the Spurs could move Simmons AND LJC for MCW. That would be ideal.
Kidd likes athletic/lanky players, Simmons/LJC fit the bill.If the Spurs could move Simmons AND LJC for MCW. That would be ideal.
But MCW is, too...
Perhaps the Spurs could move Simmons and LJC for MCW and a #2 - although I'd be all over the trade without a #2. Pipe dream - PATFO won't be dealing until maybe the cut deadline.
MCW is one of the worst 3 point shooters in the league, Simmons shot 38% last season.
Wait - now you're arguing against your guy? I thought the discussion was about "long and lanky".
If Jeff Van Gundy keeps pimping him in telecasts, the Spurs should definitely look to sell high, IMO.
I don't about MCW, we just drafted a PG and have like 3 other options, but see what you can get.
Who on the team can guard a soul besides Kawhi/Danny?........Garino?
Bucks need an athletic guard who can knockdown an open 3, Spurs need a backup wing defender/slasher.
Did MCW become a passable defender over the summer? I probably missed the memo.
He's as good a defender as George Hill except he's 6'6" thus not undersized against wing players such as Klay who aren't physically imposing. His best asset is actually his defense ala Shumpert.
We must have different NBA League Pass subscriptions.
And it's likely that Garino won't make the team...
Anyway, I hate this guy and his podcast, #11 really??
Would be hard and almost a miracle to finish #3/5 with this roster but I'm a believer.
Wow... the pessimistic always discounting the Spurs.... I can't imagine them being 11th but they have a lot of roster turnaround and if Pop moves away from some of the guys that he has in the rotation right now it's rookies behind them, and rookies seldom impact defensively unless they are special in that end and dedicated b4 the NBA. I'd keep Garino, but if he's needed he can be picked up midseason. He will still get great coaching in Austin and a lot of playing time to boost his confidence.
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