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can you imagine what billy king would give us for tony and anderson?
but sagirl said he's already proven himself in the nba
can you imagine what billy king would give us for tony and anderson?
It just blows my mind that people (Pop included) think Kyle Anderson can ever work next to two bigs.
SAgirl got mad at me when I called Kyle a Role Player..
Wonder if Sagirl stops supporting the spurs if kyle gets moved..
I think the same if none of the two bigs can shoot.
Kyle has some value still. Maybe not great, but some -- as he still has another year after this one on his rookie deal for a little over 1 mil. His showcases in summerleague in an expansive role helps. SA can use that and Kawhi/ Green heavy minutes as leverage in negotiations.
Package him with another player + an asset shld bring back decent value.
Also, Noel or other rookies, who are at the end of their rookie deals, wont have as much value if they obviously arent in their teams future plans. Players at the end of their rookie deals dont have as much value bc the team receiving the player has to be willimg to pay the rookie the following year to make the trade worth it.
Its a good time to buy low on Noel, and teams will leverage time against the Sixers as they will hold their subpar offers for the trade deadline. Philly wont get offered much for him.
Regardless, I think Kyle and Simmons shld be shopped if Bertans impresses.
Last edited by MaNu4Tres; 10-10-2016 at 11:08 PM.
i could see him on the clippers. he could set up blake and deandre when cp3 is on the bench.
lma and gasol can shoot. i hope we see anderson, lma, and gasol on the court at the same time as little as possible. or else that would mean the frontcourt is made up of three players who aren't known for their quickness.
No... he'll put the ball on the floor and 3 out of 4 times something not ideal will happen.
He needs to aggressively attack that hair with some clippers
Kyle Anderson is not an NBA ready player.
At all.
I was a fan b4 him TBH.SAgirl got mad at me when I called Kyle a Role Player..
Wonder if Sagirl stops supporting the spurs if kyle gets moved..
He isn't completely awful, but he's not a good fit. He needs the ball in his hands to be effective and he's not good enough (or aggressive enough) to warrant that kind of role on this team.
Guy needs to go.
Well the 3rd season is this one. He's been here 2. The first one he was the 15th man in a full roster. He wasn't taking anyone's spot that you wanted. I do agree he is under pressure for his 3rd season which this one is.
I'm not particularly talking about roster spots. It's obvious they spent time developing him, coaching him, etc. He was a project, much like Corey Joseph was. There was an investment in him, if you will.
Obviously, if they stuck with him, it's because they felt that there was something there. Hopefully there is.
As long as people expect him to carry a bench full of scrubs and also want him to make that scrub second unit look like they can match a playoff team, Kyle will be labeled a failure.
He is no Manu Ginobili, there are no Manuīs in the league, few players can take a team of no ones and make them play well.
Manu used to do this but unless we move on of the idea that we are still able to have a ty bench whith one great player, and make him responsible of everything, we will have a lot of failures.
We need to understand that our bench unit, in the future, will not be able to match up and keep up with other teams starters.
Kyle does well against, subs, thatīs all that he is being asked to do i think, we fans just have been spoiled for so long that we lost track of what a bench unit really is.
It could be for anyone...depending on the game and how well or poorly Kyle plays. Why? Because that's how this place is.For who?
I see what you mean now. I agree it is an investment. Hopefully he realizes the team needs him and steps up his game when he is open. If he was MCW and couldn't shoot worth a lick I would have lost hope, but he can shoot yet passes up shots, so I still have hope it can be remedied.
I know also what you said about cutting and screening but I saw very little of that from everyone all around. Could be new sets, new ppl, lack of chemistry but when it's something like that one has to think of Pop and system. The other review on the other game that we didn't see (Hawks) mentioned all 3 of Kyle, Manu and Patty running PNR as ballhandler at different times.
I think the bench is limited in what they can do when none of the bigs can shoot and Lee is a good roller but a known non-shooter and Dedmon is a non-factor offensively and on top of that camps the paint. Seriously there's not much that they can do. Looking at guys shot charts the last few games, everyone in the bench playing with that pair has been abysmal scoring in the paint, even Manu, and we saw why tonight.
Kyle is definitively not a guy you run through 3 screens to get a shot. That's Patty, maybe Bertans (and he's not played that way). For himself Kyle needs to grow a pair with the trigger when he's open, the rest I place on Pop and the system and maybe chemistry right now. It's not clear what they are running other than PNR.
Last edited by SAGirl; 10-11-2016 at 01:53 AM.
If we learned anything of OKC series is that our bench can't already match other elite teams.
And the biggest issue is Pop's continuing to play them like they can.
If he sacrifices depth -signing a big name like LMA, opting for Pau, staying loyal to Parker/Manu-, has to realize he can't play the bench in the same way that 3 years ago when 2nd unit was the best in the league, he must rely more on the starters and hope for the best.
Last edited by YGWHI; 10-11-2016 at 02:08 AM.
I agree with you. Also in typical spurstalk fashion there is cliff jumping over one game that hopefully is a teaching lesson for everyone in it, coaches included.
He has to shoot when open at the 3, there's no doubt about it. I am not sure what's up with him bc he was shooting much better and Pop mentioned improvements in his shot as one of the reasons to increase his playing time, so I do think he has to turn his reluctancy around. I suspect aggressive close outs play a part and he's going to have to get over that.
Everything else other than passing up on the 3, I really can't get on his behind about this early in the season. It's not clear what they are running other than PNR with two nonshooters in the paint. I consider this a lot of experimental stuff by Pop right now.
I agree with you they have to rely on their system to get shots. Hopefully come play off time Pop realizes he has a top heavy team and mixes them up better and I think Pop has contingency plans for that. But to prepare for a long season, for the long haul they all need to be better and Pop has to figure out who plays better with who, something he mentioned.
I've been saying this for along time. The guy is not an NBA player. It blows my mind how he's getting any playing time. Can't run, shoot, rebound. He needs to go as in the second the okc series ended. Sadly pop is obsessed with him and i will continue to suffer watching him check in acting like it's not a big deal. The guy is a disgrace. And I truly support every spurs player except him
By the way, Kyle won't be traded... so it's a moot point not this early anyways...
Kyle's good enough if he stops beating himself. The Pistons couldn't guard him last night, and he did nothing with that. He missed some shots he'll probably hit most of the time (think he had three that caught back iron and bounced out), and with one or two of those, his line looks fine. But as I said in the game thread, Kyle desperately needs a Murray-esque 3-13 or 4-15 game. Sure, it would be great if he shot better than that, but he needs to show that he's willing to keep firing even if he's cold rather than trying to take a couple of really good looks.
Is he just thinking too much?
Might be. Whatever it is, it needs to get fixed. Single-most important thing Pop can do this season.
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