Like his teammates would say otherwise?
He's evolved into giving the opposing team just what they need.. tbh
His effectiveness is way too inconsistent on offense, while he's in the bottom tier of PGs when it comes to defense.
At this point of his career, it seems like that's the only think he knows to do well.
But I find so weird that Kawhi became super agrgressive with the ball in his hands when Parker wasn't on the floor...Who knows why that happened.
Just saying that Kawhi parking in the corner while Parker runs P&Rs for 6 minutes a quarter isn't a viable option to win in playoffs.
I have nothing to complain so far with Tony, tbh... we'll know more by January on where he's at with this transition...
As if older players aren't "exposed" or attacked routinely? It is part of being older and losing ability as you age. Even Manu and Timmy have been victims of being "exactly what the opposing team needs."
No , he isn't a starting caliber PG but he's the best option Pop has. He also has willingly taken a backseat to Kawhi and LaMarcus in the offense.
Obviously, as he ages his offense will come more sporadically yet people act like he's a low percentage scorer which is far from the case. He'll need to be hidden on defense once again, but hopefully by next season a worthy successor is around to start, Tony can occupy Manu's role and go against lesser PG's.
I just love when things like this come up cause they fall in the face of the narrative spread around here.
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Gaining weight is not evolving tbh
Tim and Manu were able to be effective still and were/are net positives for the team. They were still in the top of their class on the defensive end, and didn't demand the ball, played efficiently within the offense. If Parker was a top defensive player for his position, you wouldn't see me posting about how he's a net negative. That is not the case though, as he's one of the worst defensive PG's in the entire NBA.
That's not on TP. Anyway, Kawhi had 10 points in the first quarter, 8 of them came with TP on the court. He had 20 for the game. (nearly half his points came with TP in, in less than a quarter's time) He became super aggressive cause it was him/LMA and a bunch of new guys who couldn't do anything. It was good experience for him to get comfortable being the guy out there.
The transition is gradual, it's not like OK TP, no more of what you do. I don't think it's ever been called by Pop for TP to run a P&R and park Kawhi in the corner. for 1/2 a quarter btw....
Kawhi is handling the ball far more these days. There's just a balance, it's not going to be the same guy with the ball every time. Kawhi/LMA will have it more and rightfully so. We've seen Kawhi grow each year, so there's no reason to think he won't do more with the ball this year, and become more of a facilitator. Just don't expect some instant change 100% of the time.
I completely agree that Tony is an albatross on defense, but Parker is playing less, "demanding" the ball less and still remaining efficient on offense. Unfortunately, his defense will continue to suck with his loss of lateral quickness and the team doesn't have a viable option on defense at the PG spot.
His performances won't be as criticized once he is playing a 6th man role, sadly we'll have to wait (hopefully) one more season for that to happen. And, with Parker being such a huge "net negative" the team still manages to win despite that.
Yep.
Words / actions
Regular season only.
Playoffs
3-4 in 2015 as Porker shot .363 including 0-9 on treys.
6-4 in 2016 but please, 4 wins vs decimated Memphis Grizzleys. 2-4 when it counted vs OKC.
Tissot.. that goes for everyone... Tissot
For long minutes in a quarter, especially in the first quarters, it was what happened last season.
I'm not saying that Parker shouldn't run it, what I suggest it's mix it up.
Don't freeeze Kawhi or stop running Parker/LMA P&R/Pops for long periods of time, just mix those plays up.
If Kawhi and LMA are our two main scorers like Pop said, give them the same numbers/quality of shots, instead of going to one player half quarter with the other being passive in those minutes.
5 for 13, 3 assists, 4 turnovers
What I wouldn't give to still have CoJo...
Evolving with a team-leading 13 FGA
but my role has changed, my job now is to be a leader and help spread the Spurs unselfish culture
Its so weird and fake to hear him talk about unselfishness. It's like when Kirby used to talk about the Lakers needing to play the right way when he was the main culprit for their style of play.
Parker took shots he was supposed to take. You can't be a successful faciltator if you pass those up. Bigger problem is that he missed some easy ones.
I have a su ion that this thread is going to have above 100 pages until the end of the playoffs.
Yea, idk what people expect. TP has had some seasons starting slow out the gate, so the misses aren't surprising.
People don't seem to understand that if teams are going to give Parker those shots and he hits them at a decent percentage, that he'll end up getting the 12-15 ppg the team needs to round out their offense. Leonard and LMA are not 30ppg guys so you need Pau to get like 15, Parker and Anderson to get their 12, Green and Patty to get 10 and Manu to get his 9 or so. Add in the bench bigs, and you get the 115ppg game or so that ends up being 105 once you factor missed games and such. The point is that Parker is never supposed to not score if that's what the defense is giving the team. It all adds up.
Yup.
Its so weird and fake to hear him talk about unselfishness. It's like when Kirby used to talk about the Lakers needing to play the right way when he was the main culprit for their style of play.
Plus, arguing that those are the kind kf shots he had to take is pretty damn flawed and ridiculous. He had to take those shots, ecause he run sets and made decisions that forced him to take those shots.
Its like running 20 P&R's for himself getting open shots and then arguing it was ok cause it was open...its idiotic because it completely ignores the fact that he run things to maximise his own effectiviness and opportunities...even thoug hes current level is .
No one is saying he shouldnt be taking open shots...But continously running sets and plays designed to maximise the his position for scoring is a other way of playing selfish basketball..vwry subtle, but very selfish.
At least hes not Aldrige but still..
I don't know what the point in playing the season, if Parker is still your starting pg...
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