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Friday Oct 14 AT&T Center, San Antonio, TX
7:30pm
Simmons is under contract. They can't cut him without waiving him....which seems unlikely.I'd cut J.Simms personally. Livio is 22 and might improve yet. Actually from where I first saw him in SL to how he looks right now already there is improvement and the Spurs big situation is not that strong. It would be unwise to let him go. I think he has room for improvement.
J.Simms OTOH, 27 already, 2nd season here (+2 seasons in the Toros) a lot of Spurs coaching + so many mistakes all the time. On top of that, I think Murray and himself are very, very similar (both slashers... only obviously Murray is super young, and still developing, likely to get much better in the coming seasons). There are any number of guys I'd take over him right now TBH. But Pop vouching for him and all.
Friday Oct 14 AT&T Center, San Antonio, TX
7:30pm
I live across the street from an Alzheimer's place and apparently one of the old guys got out and started roaming around. They got him and were dragging him back as I was getting out. Now I can walk my dags.
Thanks.
Friday Oct 14 AT&T Center, San Antonio, TX
7:30pm
Agreed and TBH... he's not going to jump over anybody and I think a lot of hesitation and lack of aggressiveness was basically afraid of screwing the heck up, or not even knowing how to deal with the physicality. Aaron Gordon is a heck of a defender and a strong dude. I am sure his shooting will bounce back.
He also kept the team's composure at the end . I don't know if you noticed but Magic was trying to force TO, Arci had trouble with the press, Kyle kind of said screw that, give me the ball, all they had to do was avoid the TO and defend to win and did.
Sounds like Dedmon at the game tonight
Yeah, I wasn't worried about his misses. Much better game this game and showed some worth in pressure moments, should the need come up.
Use of the wrong term, but you understood what I meant. I don't think he's waived though (to use the correct term)... but I think there are other guys that can help more than him, which is kind of sad to see these others guy not make the team. I think they have a much better crop of guys this preseason than the last one. The proof, these guys have been winning games. Last preseason games were "turrrible" including J.Simms who didn't look like he was going to make it himself.
Saw Simmons got 5 turnovers.
How did this happen?
I really want Simmons to work but he still seems so loose.
Kyle with 6pts (2/8fg), 4reb, 2ast in 27 minutes
simmons and anderson, trash
"Start Paddy" krew won't like this...
-17 +/-
Dude, Simmons blows. He's the same guy from last year. No growth.
ManuVP lol (No Kiwi, no Tony, no TD... How did that happen?)still undefeated when Manu plays
I definitely think he can do more than shoot. He had a few games in the summer league where he rebounded and stole well. He had a similar game against Phoenix last week. Definitely needs to become consistent at something else to get into the rotation, but being an elite shooter should be enough to make a team.
Game swung with the 3 Argentines, a Frenchman, & a Canadian on the floor.
Mostly trying to make passes in traffic somewhat like Manu. Otherwise, he played well in the 3rd quarter.
I've thought for sure Lapro was the obvious choice, because of his skills and experience. But for a second unit that looks to be challenged, having a guy out on the perimeter who can knock down 3's is huge. Not just because of his scoring (which they need), but because that kind of shooting will force defenses to pay attention to him and open up the floor for the other guys.
There are a bunch of guys in the league who can run the point as good or better than Lapro. But there's always demand for a guy who can knock down 3's. We still don't know if he can do it under big game pressure, and I'd like him a lot more if he was about 3" taller. But it's going to be hard to let go of a guy who can stroke 'em like he does.
Yeah, can't say I disagree. If Simmons were on even footing with the other camp invites (i.e. if he wasn't under contract), then I think he'd probably be out the door. The Spurs are a loyal organization though. For better or worse, it's one of the reasons they are highly respected. For that reason, I don't see them parting ways with Simmons just yet...even if it's what they probably should do.
Obviously it's still preseason...but this is the second game he has come in and hit big shots to secure a win. He did the same thing in Summer League. Considering that everybody else seem scared to put the ball in the basket...I'd like to see Forbes have a chance to see if he can do it in the big games.
Also, I know the third string PG position is still a question mark...but I feel like the Spurs can fill that gap between Manu, Murray, and Anderson. Having another scorer off the bench, imo, is a bigger need.
Last edited by Dex; 10-12-2016 at 09:40 PM.
To be clear, everyone is under contract, and everyone would be waived, not released (which is not a term that applies to the NBA). But those waived and released players are cut.
Good point. I guess I should say that Simmons has money guaranteed....whereas I assume that most of the camp invites are on non-guaranteed or partially guaranteed deals. I'm far from a contract guru though, so...feel free to correct me if I'm wrong.
Nah, your understanding is correct in that regard. I think Simmons had a decent game tonight, but it probably would've been worse had he been playing for a spot. Anyway, I think he's very tradeable, so we could see him moved if it comes to that. With Anderson not doing anything special, I don't think it's going to come to that.
I disagree with that. Simmons has shown zero growth and did a few things with scrubs on the court in the 3rd. The first half? He was a borderline disaster on both sides of the floor. No... that 3rd quarter stretch was nothing. He's shown nothing to me yet. I'll give him time, since I have no choice, but this guy is a negative player, overall right now.
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