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    Did Spurs establish a wheelchair basketball affiliate?

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    I would kill to have Splitter off the bench at a reasonable price. He is a great passer, a reasonable post option, and when healthy he's elite guarding the pick and roll. He's a china doll, but I'm not saying I'd want him at $10 million a year or to start or even play 25 minutes a night. But for the minimum if he gets bought out? That's an obvious yes.
    This, all of this.

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    Did Spurs establish a wheelchair basketball affiliate?

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    wasn't there a point where they didn't even know what was wrong with him? when's the last time he even played?

    his recovery time is suboptimal to say the least.

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    He will go to Jazz, and Diaw-Splitter frontline will on the Spurs in the 1st round

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    Thought he injured his back again tbh

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    I was surprised that Leonard missed so many games every season. Tiago is a skillful player at the 5 and knows the system and our rotation players which is where he would fit in. If we could get him for little or nothing as a 5th big, it could be a smart insurance move since LJC and Dedmon don't look like instant offense/or defense off the bench..
    Leonard misses games because Popovih babysits. He extends careers, but in the process of doing that, hurts chances for les more often than none due to so much resting and not properly preparing players for the playoffs. There is no reason a 23, 24, or 25 year old should not be playing 38 minutes a game. There just isn't any excuse for it. And the resting bull needs to ing stop

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    Leonard misses games because Popovih babysits. He extends careers, but in the process of doing that, hurts chances for les more often than none due to so much resting and not properly preparing players for the playoffs. There is no reason a 23, 24, or 25 year old should not be playing 38 minutes a game. There just isn't any excuse for it. And the resting bull needs to ing stop

    Yes there is a reasonable reason why Spurs don't have anyone averaging 35 minutes a game.

    Spurs have had the luxury with resting players 4th quarters and games because of their ability to blow out teams and create separation in the standings. Fact of the matter is, Pop actually plays his best players 35+ minutes in games that are compe ive in the regular season because of the nature of being compe ive and trying to win the close, big games. In the long run, blowing out teams 30 games a year will naturally decrease MPG for the starters.

    If Spurs were a 40-45-50 win team and had a point differential of 3 or less, you'd see Kawhi getting close to 35-37 mpg. That hasn't been the case in the Kawhi era and that likely won't change anytime soon.

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    Yes there is a reasonable reason why Spurs don't have anyone averaging 35 minutes a game.

    Spurs have had the luxury with resting players 4th quarters and games because of their ability to blow out teams and create separation in the standings. Fact of the matter is, Pop actually plays his best players 35+ minutes in games that are compe ive in the regular season because of the nature of being compe ive and trying to win the close, big games. In the long run, blowing out teams 30 games a year will naturally decrease MPG for the starters.

    If Spurs were a 40-45-50 win team and had a point differential of 3 or less, you'd see Kawhi getting close to 35-37 mpg. That hasn't been the case in the Kawhi era and that likely won't change anytime soon.
    He needs to prepare these guys for the playoffs. Resting is cool, but when you play a team int eh playoffs and your best players aren't used to playing 40+ minutes in a lot of games cuz they've been rested all season, that becomes a problem.

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    After Jack and Kelly getting cut, Hawks have two more cuts to make between Splitter, Muscala, Bynum (PG), and Magette ( PG).

    Delaney won the back up PG spot over Jack. Hard to believe they'll only keep two point guards on the roster while keeping 7 bigs (three centers, four power forwards). And Humphries and Muscala have shown a lot more than Splitter the past year.

    Something to watch.

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    Even if he was cut by Atlanta, I don't see the Spurs going after him. Love Tiago, but that ship sailed when he couldn't stay healthy in 2015.

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    After Jack and Kelly getting cut, Hawks have two more cuts to make between Splitter, Muscala, Bynum (PG), and Magette ( PG).

    Delaney won the back up PG spot over Jack. Hard to believe they'll only keep two point guards on the roster while keeping 7 bigs (three centers, four power forwards). And Humphries and Muscala have shown a lot more than Splitter the past year.

    Something to watch.
    Do you actually think they will cut Splitter?

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    This makes no sense for them to cut Splitter, if Howard get's hurt he's good insurance. I say they keep him. He will get traded before cut/waived.

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    no. Overrated as .

    The defense got better when LMA replaced him
    You don't remember what he did to LMA and Dirk do you. He also Z-Bo in check in the '13 playoffs

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    I always liked Twilight, but I wouldn't mind keeping Forbes around. Spurs don't necessarily need another big but can always use another shooter. With LJC, and Murray in the D- League for most of the season, he could actually play some when Manu gets injured/ rests.

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    I always liked Twilight, but I wouldn't mind keeping Forbes around. Spurs don't necessarily need another big but can always use another shooter. With LJC, and Murray in the D- League for most of the season, he could actually play some when Manu gets injured/ rests.
    Spurs only have four true bigs. Its the lesst they've had in the Popovich era. And theyre loaded at the wing as it is.
    They need at least one more true 4 or 5.

    Im not including the developmental project Livio because he'll be in Austin.

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    This makes no sense for them to cut Splitter, if Howard get's hurt he's good insurance. I say they keep him. He will get traded before cut/waived.
    I dont think youve been keeping up with Atlanta. Taveras is the back up center now. Hes played real well this preseason. And Humphries, Scott and Muscala have all been able to not only stay healthy but theyve been productive their time with the team.
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    Just hypothetically - could the Spurs package Simmons and Tim's full contract in a trade for Splitter? I know the Spurs have announced that they want to spread his salary, but I don't remember if spreading his contract was a pre-req to getting any of their current players signed. Forget whether you like that deal or not. I'm just wondering if they could still make something like that happen.

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    Spurs only have four true bigs. Its the lesst they've had in the Popovich era. And theyre loaded at the wing as it is.
    They need at least one more true 4 or 5.

    Im not including the developmental project Livio because he'll be in Austin.
    Anderson is a 4 playing the 3, he is the 5th big, and I expect him to wind up as the backup four at some point this season, which could open up playing time for Bertans at the three. This isn't the early 2000's, the spurs don't need to load on bigs, they just need make sure the ones they have stay healthy

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    Just hypothetically - could the Spurs package Simmons and Tim's full contract in a trade for Splitter? I know the Spurs have announced that they want to spread his salary, but I don't remember if spreading his contract was a pre-req to getting any of their current players signed. Forget whether you like that deal or not. I'm just wondering if they could still make something like that happen.
    Spurs used the strethch provision on Duncan so they can't trade his contract. Simmons makes less than $900,000 while Splitter makes $8,000,000+

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    Anderson is a 4 playing the 3, he is the 5th big, and I expect him to wind up as the backup four at some point this season, which could open up playing time for Bertans at the three. This isn't the early 2000's, the spurs don't need to load on bigs, they just need make sure the ones they have stay healthy
    Anderson is not a true four, he's versatile enough to play the 4 though just like Leonard or Bertans depending on matchups. It's subjective really, you may think he's more of a 4, but he can fill minutes at the 3 therefore he's not a true big. And with Dedmon shaky out of the gate, I don't think Spurs should feel comfortable with their current big situation off the bench. It's okay if you have a different opinion. Take my take for what it is.

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    Spurs used the strethch provision on Duncan so they can't trade his contract. Simmons makes less than $900,000 while Splitter makes $8,000,000+

    I understand salary matching. Really. I swear.

    What I couldn't remember is the deadline for using the stretch provision for the current year. Up to the deadline, they could have changed their mind about stretching, so long as they hadn't been forced to use that extra cap space to put someone on the roster.

    A lot of people talked about Duncan maybe coming back after the ASB, so I thought maybe the stretch deadline was the same as the trade deadline. Moot point, since the stretch deadline was August 31.

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    Anderson is not a true four, he's versatile enough to play the 4 though just like Leonard or Bertans depending on matchups. It's subjective really, you may think he's more of a 4, but he can fill minutes at the 3 therefore he's not a true big. And with Dedmon shaky out of the gate, I don't think Spurs should feel comfortable with their current big situation off the bench. It's okay if you have a different opinion. Take my take for what it is.

    I think you're dead on. I think if Anderson put on about 20 pounds of muscle, he'd be closer to a true 4 than anything else. As long as it didn't turn him into Super-Slow-Mo.

    I don't see how the Spurs could possibly be comfortable with their big situation. I still think Lee is too short, but I also think he's got the best big man skills of anyone other than Gasol and LMA. Right now I can see him out-performing his size easier than I can see Deadmon living up to his size/potential.

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    I think you're dead on. I think if Anderson put on about 20 pounds of muscle, he'd be closer to a true 4 than anything else. As long as it didn't turn him into Super-Slow-Mo.

    I don't see how the Spurs could possibly be comfortable with their big situation. I still think Lee is too short, but I also think he's got the best big man skills of anyone other than Gasol and LMA. Right now I can see him out-performing his size easier than I can see Deadmon living up to his size/potential.
    Wouldn't that be called Bullet-Time-Mo?

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    I'm guessing Jack isn't all the way back from his injury. That or they value Muscala and Tavares too much to waive one or are too cheap to buy out Splitter.

    Either way, they're almost Bucks and Knicks level thin at point guard now. Bembry (offense) and Bazemore (defense) will probably be the third one in tandem.


    Agree that the Spurs only have 4 true bigs, but the last spot should go to someone who might be able to have a minor role in the present and be a part of the future, no matter the position.

    Barring a long term injury to one of the 4, they should be able to get by with Bertans, Anderson in small ball situations and Jean-Charles in an emergency one.

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