Greg Olsen is the best TE in the league

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Let's see since 2010, Seattle is 5-2 vs Carolina. And in that time frame they have won a SB, plyed in two, as we know your Panthers got crushed in the one they were in.

If you can;t see how superior Gronks career has been to Olsens, I can't help ya. He's done more in his seven seasons than Olsen has in his ten, even a blind man could see that. All you arr is a punk ass kid STILL playing stupid fanboy silliness.

First it was...CAM NEWTON IS GOD...well he sucks, ok? Then it was...LUKE IS GOD...and he is the only Panther where you have a legit case, now it's...GREG OLSEN ISN;T INJURED SO HE'S BETTER THAN THE INJURED GRONK...hahahaha~~~ Dude, Usain Bolt has lost races coming off an injury...ok? So if Olsen goes down and Gronk is playing.....hahaha~~~

Did you ever look at the career stats of Olsen and Gronk? If ya did you can't see the HUGE difference?

You follow a team that has never won a SB, has a weirdo at QB, a Mexican at coach, your all time receiver/rusher starring other places while losing at home to the lowly Buc's with a second year QB.

Hahahaha~~~~~

All that is moot. You are pulling for your rival team while they your team in the ass. Pussy.

[Avante]

All that is moot. You are pulling for your rival team while they your team in the ass. Pussy.

I have a binder full of Niner football cards. I wear a Niner ball cap, I could teach the history of 49er football. Can talk Niners nobody here has ever heard of, remember Ray Norton.....of course not.

BUT....I keep it real, I dwell in reality. I never let my emotions get in the way of how it is, something you need to work on. The Niners totally suck right now and have been sucking for a few years. It has nothing to do with the Seahawks, I just don't play pretend. The Seahawks are where the Niners used to be. My thing will Russell Wilson is pretty much more about proving the know nothings they know nothing.

Dude, you are the classic example of what a fanboy is, they are so wrapped up in their love for a team/player they totally ignore reality.

In about an hour I'll go to a place that sells dog food, a guy works there who is a HUGE Raider fan...HUGE~~~~~

Avante...what's up bro?
Raider fan....what did I tell you, are we Superbowl bound or what?
Avante...can't disgree if we are talking in the next 4/5 seasons.
Raider fan.... that, I'm talking this season.
Avante....this season a wild card is real, the Superbowl is not.
Raider fan....watch and see.
Avante....ok, let's see who's right.

Everyone who follows football knows the Raiders will not be in the 2016 SB, why doesn't this guy, yep....FANBOY~~~~~

[Silver&Black]

Not Olsen related, but this is my favorite Canes song



2001 Canes were the best team of all time. It's not even debatable.

[DD]

2001 Canes were the best team of all time. It's not even debatable.

Some people try to argue 1995 Nebraska or one of these run-of-the-mill Bama teams

Their status as GOAT team was solidified by all the top-notch pro talent they had. Talk about STACKED, the 3rd-string RB was Frank Gore

[Silver&Black]

Some people try to argue 1995 Nebraska or one of these run-of-the-mill Bama teams

Their status as GOAT team was solidified by all the top-notch pro talent they had. Talk about STACKED, the 3rd-string RB was Frank Gore

Clinton Portis, Willis McGahee, and Frank Gore backfield. Gives a new meaning to WE STAAAAAAAAAAAAAACKED.

Ed Reed, Philip Buchanon, Jeremy Shockey, Jonathon Vilma, Bryant McKinnie, Ken Dorsey, Andre Johnson............Do I need to continue? They damn near put the entire gotdamn team in the 1st Round. Najeh Davenport, Joaquin Gonzalez......gud lawd. I think Vince Wilfork was a Freshman on that team IIRC.

If someone tells you Nebraska fielded a better "team" slap them in the ing face for me.

[Avante]

The best college teams of all time if we go with vs their compe ion was Michigan from 1901-1905.

They went 55=1, losing the last game in 1905 2-0 to Chicago.
Scored over 2000 points giving up less than 50.
They scored over 100 points 4 times and had over 30 shutouts.

Imagine a team playing three seasons and never allowing the opponet in their territory, that what's Bedford County Training School (all black school in Tennessee) did from 1942-1944. From 1942-1948 they won 78 games before a loss. The first 52 games they shut everyone out. That sounds like fiction, but it's not.

[Ghazi]

Football wasn't football back then.

[Avante]

Football wasn't football back then.

You have it 100% backwards, that was the game back then. No sissy fields no sissy ass rules to protect players, little padding, if ya got hurt......big deal.

[Silver&Black]

The best college teams of all time if we go with vs their compe ion was Michigan from 1901-1905.

They went 55=1, losing the last game in 1905 2-0 to Chicago.
Scored over 2000 points giving up less than 50.
They scored over 100 points 4 times and had over 30 shutouts.

Imagine a team playing three seasons and never allowing the opponet in their territory, that what's Bedford County Training School (all black school in Tennessee) did from 1942-1944. From 1942-1948 they won 78 games before a loss. The first 52 games they shut everyone out. That sounds like fiction, but it's not.

I knew you'd show up and say some team from the ing 1900s was the best of all time.

2001 Hurricanes would beat the 1901 ( A hundred years ago) Michigan Wolverines by 90.

[DD]

You have it 100% backwards, that was the game back then. No sissy fields no sissy ass rules to protect players, little padding, if ya got hurt......big deal.

You can always tell the rookies~~~sheesh

How about the 100th anniversary of the Georgia Tech Engineers beating the berland Bulldogs 222-0, huh little guy? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1916_C..._football_game

You really don't think those 150-lb honkies could crush the 2001 Hurricanes?

[Avante]

I knew you'd show up and say some team from the ing 1900s was the best of all time.

2001 Hurricanes would beat the 1901 ( A hundred years ago) Michigan Wolverines by 90.

You know it never works that way in sports. I have no doubts the 2016 Crimson Tide beat up those old Lombardi Packer teams from the 60's. You ALWAYS go with vs the era...ALWAYS~~~~~~~~~~~

There are kids in high school right now who would totally destroy Jesse Owens in a 100m. No way Jim Brown is averaging over 5 yards a carry in 2016. What chance would Rocky "48-0" Marciano stand today vs these heavyweights?

You look at....dominance of era. That is why those Michigan teams were the best ever college teams.

[Avante]

You can always tell the rookies~~~sheesh

How about the 100th anniversary of the Georgia Tech Engineers beating the berland Bulldogs 222-0, huh little guy? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1916_C..._football_game

You really don't think those 150-lb honkies could crush the 2001 Hurricanes?

I have used that 222-0 game many times in trivia. You'd be surprised at how many football fans knew nothing about it. First thing is there even enought time to score that many points?

It's not about who would beat who, it's..ALWAYS..about vs your era....ALWAYS~~~~~~~~~~

Those 60 Packer teams are considered to be some of the best ever, they wouldn't stand a chance vs the Jags today....none~~~~

There are HS offensive lines today bigger than any NFL lines from once upon a time.


The legendary/great Bullet Bob Hayes who changed the way defenses played ran a 10.06WR in winning the 1964 Olympic 100m. What is the HS record now.....10.00.

Getting back to those Packer teams, their monster DE Willie Davis a HOFer....6-2 245.

Right this minute the Chiefs have Tyreek Hill who while in HS ran a 20.14 200m, that would have won every Olympics up to 1968.

[Silver&Black]

You look at....dominance of era. That is why those Michigan teams were the best ever college teams.

You're basically blaming the 2001 Hurricanes (in some type of way) because the other college football teams in the 1900s were complete .

I won't allow it. I simply won't.


If you want to say that the Michigan Wolverines were the best of their era....I'm good with that. But, when someone says, "Who is the best college football team of all time?" they're saying that if you put those two teams on a neutral field....who would win? Era has nothing to do with it.

Take the Bulls vs. Warriors debate last year. A lot of people debated which team was the greatest of all time. I'm sure there were some teams in the 60s (Celtics come to mind) that obliterated their compe ion like the 1901 Wolverines did. They're not the best team of all time though. They're the best team of the 60s.

[Silver&Black]

You really don't think those 150-lb honkies could crush the 2001 Hurricanes?

The U by 90, tbh.

[UNT Eagles 2016]

yeah, I was a little too young to remember when Miami college football was good... or Miami pro football, for that matter

[Clipper Nation]

Since joining Carolina, he has been the biggest piece of Newton's throwing game.

Calling Olsen a piece of is a bit excessive, don't you think?

[Avante]

You're basically blaming the 2001 Hurricanes (in some type of way) because the other college football teams in the 1900s were complete .

I won't allow it. I simply won't.


If you want to say that the Michigan Wolverines were the best of their era....I'm good with that. But, when someone says, "Who is the best college football team of all time?" they're saying that if you put those two teams on a neutral field....who would win? Era has nothing to do with it.

Take the Bulls vs. Warriors debate last year. A lot of people debated which team was the greatest of all time. I'm sure there were some teams in the 60s (Celtics come to mind) that obliterated their compe ion like the 1901 Wolverines did. They're not the best team of all time though. They're the best team of the 60s.

And you cannot hold it against those Michigan players that they were born in the 1880's. All you can do in sport is compete in the era you live in, all Michigan could do was beat those in their time. And NOBODY ever did that better, NOBODY~~~ They totally destroyed the compe ion, totally dominated unlike any team in any sport has ever done. This is why Michigan 1901-1905 was the best college football team we have seen. It's never ever been about could modern day athletes with all the advantages that comes with that beat old time athletes, it just doesn't work that way at all.

You read anything about the greatest RB ever and the first name you will read.....Jim Brown. We all get the fact he couldn't do what he did back then vs these defenses today, BUT....it just doesn't matter, it doesn't work like that.

How many times have we read...Jim Thorpe the greatest athlete of all time? Like those Michigan teams ya think if he'd had to compete vs black athletes we could say that? How would Jim Thorpe do today vs anyone, I'll tell ya....he'd suck. But....it simply doesn't work that way.

Back in the days of Jim Brown was a monster D lineman, Gene "BIG DADDY" Lipscomb, he was HUGE HUGE~~~ 6-6 285, right now tonight the Chargers will have.....19 players over 285 pounds.

I don't care what site/forum/whatever you are on, when....BEST BOXER EVER....is talked about you will always see...Sugar Ray Robinson in that conversation, he hasn't fought in how many decades? no he couldn't bang with these guys today, but that is never the point, it doesn't work that way.

Who is the greatest boxing athlete of all time?

1. Muhammad Ali — Throughout his entire career, he only lost one fight by knockout. First ever three-time World Heavyweight Champion. Won 22 heavyweight Championship fights with 19 successful defenses. 56-5 career record with 37 knockouts.
2. Julio Cesar Chavez — professional record of 107-6-2 with 88 knockouts.
3. Floyd Mayweather — 43-0 professional record, with 26 knockouts.
4. Sugar Ray Robinson — 175-19-6 record, with 109 knockouts.
5. Mike Tyson — 44 of his 50 victories were by knockout.

There are high school teams today that could beat NFL teams way back when. How in the could those all white teams of the 20's-50's run with these Texas/Florida teams with all those speedy black athletes, yep, they couldn't.

[Silver&Black]

And you cannot hold it against those Michigan players that they were born in the 1880's. All you can do in sport is compete in the era you live in, all Michigan could do was beat those in their time. And NOBODY ever did that better, NOBODY~~~ They totally destroyed the compe ion, totally dominated unlike any team in any sport has ever done. This is why Michigan 1901-1905 was the best college football team we have seen. It's never ever been about could modern day athletes with all the advantages that comes with beat old time athletes, it just doesn't work that way at all.

You read anything about the greatest RB ever and the first name you will read.....Jim Brown. We all get the fact he couldn't do what he did back then vs these defenses today, BUT....it just doesn't matter, it doesn't work like that.

How many times have we read...Jim Thorpe the greatest athlete of all time? Like those Michigan teams ya think if he'd had to compete vs black athletes we could say that? How would Jim Thorpe do today vs anyone, I'll tell ya....he'd suck. But....it simply doesn't work that way.

Back in the days of Jim Brown was a monster D lineman, Gene "BIG DADDY" Lipscomb, he was HUGE HUGE~~~ 6-6 285, right now tonight the Chargers will have.....19 players over 285 pounds.

I'm not gonna argue this anymore with you. You can't grasp the concept of 3 words. "OF ALL TIME"....that literally means every single era.

You're focused on the eras too much. I don't give two s about this era vs. that era in an "OF ALL TIME" discussion. You want to argue who would win... 1890s Yale or Harvard vs. 1901 Michigan....go ahead and do that. Just don't bring those teams up in a "Who is the best team of all time" discussion.

My sorry ass Mississippi St. Bulldogs (who lost to South ing Alabama this year) would beat those teams by 40 easily. That right there disqualifies them from being the best "of all time". Best of their era.....sure. Of all time.....gtfoh.

[Silver&Black]

Sorry for hi-jacking your Olsen thread NLS. It's getting off track...

Maybe Avante can start a "Who is the greatest college team of all time" thread in the College Forum....oooh wait nvm.

How the did you get pinked dude?

This place has 0 moderation and somehow people manage to get pinked. It's beyond my comprehension. It really is...

[Avante]

I'm not gonna argue this anymore with you. You can't grasp the concept of 3 words. "OF ALL TIME"....that literally means every single era.

You're focused on the eras too much. I don't give two s about this era vs. that era in an "OF ALL TIME" discussion. You want to argue who would win... 1890s Yale or Harvard vs. 1901 Michigan....go ahead and do that. Just don't bring those teams up in a "Who is the best team of all time" discussion.

My sorry ass Mississippi St. Bulldogs (who lost to South ing Alabama this year) would beat those teams by 40 easily. That right there disqualifies them from being the best "of all time". Best of their era.....sure. Of all time.....gtfoh.

Speaking of grasping concepts, do this, Google...Best College Football Teams All Time.

You will always find this team near the top. And ya see nobody plays this..."who can beat who"...it's never about that at all...NEVER~ If it was then how would this team from thr 40's who would get manhandleed by most teams today be ranked that high? Where did you ever get idea it's..who can beat who? That means....0.

No. 3—1945 Army, 9-0
Army absolutely dominated the college football season in 1945. They averaged 48 points a game, while giving up only five and recording five shutouts. None of their games were closer than 19 points. The Black Knights of the Hudson had back-to-back Heisman winners in 1945 (Doc Blanchard) and 1946 (Glenn Davis), and each ran for more than 1,000 yards in the 1945 season. Army beat rivals Notre Dame and Navy by scores of 48-0 and 32-13, respectively.
West Point bookended the 1945 team with two other pretty good clubs. The Cadets went undefeated and won the national championship in 1944, and played eventual champion Notre Dame to a scoreless tie in the 1946 “Game of the Century.”

Like boxing, college football has a rich tradition, and also like boxing it's ALWAYS about ....DOMINATION OF ERA.

This 2016 Jets would totally destroy that Joe Namath team that won the SB, yet when asked what was the best Jets team, guess what?


You will never read anything like this about any football team at any level. This really is hard to believe.

"Point-a-Minute" teams[edit]


Joe Curtis scored 49 points in a single game in 1904.


In Yost's first five years as Michigan's head coach, the team compiled a record of 55–1–1 and outscored its opponents by a margin of 2,821 to 42. The teams from these years became known as Yost's "Point-a-Minute" teams, owing to the fact that their offensive production resulted in an average of at least one point being scored for every minute of play.^[8]
In 1901, Michigan compiled an 11-0 record while outscoring its opponents 550 to 0.^[9] The 1901 team scored the highest number of points ever scored in a single season by a recognized team. The team became known for the speed of play, running 219 plays in a single game.^[10] The fast pace earned the coach the nickname "Hurry Up" Yost. Michigan defeated the University of Buffalo by a score of 128–0 -- a victory so dominant that Buffalo quit 15 minutes before the game should have ended.^[11]
At the end of the 1901 season, Michigan traveled to Pasadena, California, to play against Stanford (the team that had fired Yost one year earlier) in the 1902 Rose Bowl. The game was the first post-season bowl game in college football history. Neil Snow scored five touchdowns, and with Michigan ahead 49-0 and eight minutes remaining, Stanford captain Ralph Fisher asked that the game be stopped, and Michigan agreed.^[12]
The 1902 team compiled the school's second consecutive undefeated season and national championship and outscored opponents 644 to 12. The margins of victory run up by the 1902 team included scores of 119–0 against Michigan Agricultural (now known as Michigan State), 107–0 against Iowa, and 86–0 against Ohio State.^[13] Michigan's undefeated streak continued through the 1903 and 1904 seasons (with one tie against Minnesota in 1903).^[14][15] The 1904 team ran up the biggest winning margin in school history with a 130–0 victory over West Virginia. Left tackle Joe Curtis scored 49 points against West Virginia on six touchdowns (then valued at five points) and 19 extra points.^[16]
The 1905 Michigan team won its first 12 games by a combined score of 495 to 0, continuing its high-scoring tradition. However, in the final game of the season, the Wolverines lost by a score of 2–0 against Amos Alonzo Stagg's Chicago Maroons.^[17] The loss to Chicago broke Michigan's 56-game unbeaten streak and marked the end of the "Point-a-Minute" years. The game was lost in the final ten minutes of play when Denny Clark was tackled for a safety as he attempted to return a punt from behind the goal line. Newspapers described Clark's play as "the wretched blunder" and a "lapse of brain work."^[18] Clark transferred to M.I.T. the following year and was haunted by the play for the rest of his life. In 1932, he shot himself, leaving a suicide note that reportedly expressed hope that his "final play" would atone for his error at Marshall Field in 1905.^[18][19]

[Avante]

Sorry for hi-jacking your Olsen thread NLS. It's getting off track...

Maybe Avante can start a "Who is the greatest college team of all time" thread in the College Forum....oooh wait nvm.
How the did you get pinked dude?

This place has 0 moderation and somehow people manage to get pinked. It's beyond my comprehension. It really is...

I pissed too many people off because of stuff like this. I can talk about things nobody else can and that makes others feel inferior. And then for me to rub that in, well , ha~~~

[Obstructed_View]

Sorry for hi-jacking your Olsen thread NLS. It's getting off track...

Maybe Avante can start a "Who is the greatest college team of all time" thread in the College Forum....oooh wait nvm.

How the did you get pinked dude?

[N0 LyF3 ScRuB]

Speaking of grasping concepts, do this, Google...Best College Football Teams All Time.

You will always find this team near the top. And ya see nobody plays this..."who can beat who"...it's never about that at all...NEVER~ If it was then how would this team from thr 40's who would get manhandleed by most teams today be ranked that high? Where did you ever get idea it's..who can beat who? That means....0.

No. 3—1945 Army, 9-0
Army absolutely dominated the college football season in 1945. They averaged 48 points a game, while giving up only five and recording five shutouts. None of their games were closer than 19 points. The Black Knights of the Hudson had back-to-back Heisman winners in 1945 (Doc Blanchard) and 1946 (Glenn Davis), and each ran for more than 1,000 yards in the 1945 season. Army beat rivals Notre Dame and Navy by scores of 48-0 and 32-13, respectively.
West Point bookended the 1945 team with two other pretty good clubs. The Cadets went undefeated and won the national championship in 1944, and played eventual champion Notre Dame to a scoreless tie in the 1946 “Game of the Century.”

Like boxing, college football has a rich tradition, and also like boxing it's ALWAYS about ....DOMINATION OF ERA.

This 2016 Jets would totally destroy that Joe Namath team that won the SB, yet when asked what was the best Jets team, guess what?


You will never read anything like this about any football team at any level. This really is hard to believe.

"Point-a-Minute" teams[edit]


Joe Curtis scored 49 points in a single game in 1904.


In Yost's first five years as Michigan's head coach, the team compiled a record of 55–1–1 and outscored its opponents by a margin of 2,821 to 42. The teams from these years became known as Yost's "Point-a-Minute" teams, owing to the fact that their offensive production resulted in an average of at least one point being scored for every minute of play.^[8]
In 1901, Michigan compiled an 11-0 record while outscoring its opponents 550 to 0.^[9] The 1901 team scored the highest number of points ever scored in a single season by a recognized team. The team became known for the speed of play, running 219 plays in a single game.^[10] The fast pace earned the coach the nickname "Hurry Up" Yost. Michigan defeated the University of Buffalo by a score of 128–0 -- a victory so dominant that Buffalo quit 15 minutes before the game should have ended.^[11]
At the end of the 1901 season, Michigan traveled to Pasadena, California, to play against Stanford (the team that had fired Yost one year earlier) in the 1902 Rose Bowl. The game was the first post-season bowl game in college football history. Neil Snow scored five touchdowns, and with Michigan ahead 49-0 and eight minutes remaining, Stanford captain Ralph Fisher asked that the game be stopped, and Michigan agreed.^[12]
The 1902 team compiled the school's second consecutive undefeated season and national championship and outscored opponents 644 to 12. The margins of victory run up by the 1902 team included scores of 119–0 against Michigan Agricultural (now known as Michigan State), 107–0 against Iowa, and 86–0 against Ohio State.^[13] Michigan's undefeated streak continued through the 1903 and 1904 seasons (with one tie against Minnesota in 1903).^[14][15] The 1904 team ran up the biggest winning margin in school history with a 130–0 victory over West Virginia. Left tackle Joe Curtis scored 49 points against West Virginia on six touchdowns (then valued at five points) and 19 extra points.^[16]
The 1905 Michigan team won its first 12 games by a combined score of 495 to 0, continuing its high-scoring tradition. However, in the final game of the season, the Wolverines lost by a score of 2–0 against Amos Alonzo Stagg's Chicago Maroons.^[17] The loss to Chicago broke Michigan's 56-game unbeaten streak and marked the end of the "Point-a-Minute" years. The game was lost in the final ten minutes of play when Denny Clark was tackled for a safety as he attempted to return a punt from behind the goal line. Newspapers described Clark's play as "the wretched blunder" and a "lapse of brain work."^[18] Clark transferred to M.I.T. the following year and was haunted by the play for the rest of his life. In 1932, he shot himself, leaving a suicide note that reportedly expressed hope that his "final play" would atone for his error at Marshall Field in 1905.^[18][19]

wasn't that 1903 Army team led by "Mr Inside" and "Mr Outside"

[Avante]

They came way later in te 40's. "Mr.Inside" Doc Blanchard was the first junior to ever win the Heisman, Glenn Davis "Mr.Outside" ran 9.6 100 yards when the WR was 9.4, he also won the Heisman.

The first thunder n' lightnin' RB duo in college football of note. In the NFL that was HOFers to be Bronko Nagurski and the "Galloping Ghost" Red Grange with the Bears.

[Rob Gronkowski]